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I hate esports.

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Gheed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States962 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 03:03:12
May 02 2012 01:20 GMT
#1
Don't get me wrong; I love competitive gaming. I love playing video games and watching people who are better than me stream video games. But I hate esports.

Originally an innocuous buzzword used to describe professional competitive video game playing, it has since morphed into an abomination that saps the life out of everyone in the community. Rather than a group of nerds who like playing Starcraft, we are now slaves beholden to the whims of a small minority of zealots who seek to proselytize SC2 like it's the second coming of chess.

Everything has to be done "for esports," as if we were supplicants to some otherworldly esports deity who looks down scornfully upon our every action. The idea of fun doesn't even cross anyone's mind. Everything has to be bigger, better, with a larger prize pool than the other guys. The casters have to be clean cut, wearing nice clothes, and trying as hard as humanly possible not to offend anyone. We're like the fucking Mormons! It's only a matter of time before we're forced to go door-to-door advertising for barcrafts, lest we be accused of "hurting esports" and excommunicated for our heresies.

Well I, for one, can't fucking stand it anymore. I don't care about Esports. In fact, I hope SC2 dies a swift death. I hope HotS gets delayed another year so WoL gets even more stale and even more players become disinterested. I hope we never get LAN. I hope all the sponsors pull out when they realize that marketing $200 dollar video cards to 16 year-olds too cheap to even pay for GomTV subscriptions is actually not a very good business plan. I hope Blizzard realizes they could make more money reskinning a WoW mount and selling it for 20 bucks in the virtual store than they could by making an RTS game and shunts all the funds away from SC2 and into the research and development of more sparkle ponies.

And then, when everything is gone, when all the pathetic aspirations and all the illusions that esports will ever be big or important are stripped away, we can finally get back to why we came to this website in the first place: because we like playing video games. Maybe, in the future, that video game won't be Starcraft, maybe it won't even be a Blizzard game—I'm not sure they even deserve our support anymore—but maybe, for our sake, it'll be a good game. A game people will like to play where a community will form around it filled with people who just want to have fun with others. It would be supported by fans, not by moronic devotees who feel obligated to support some vague, idealistic notion of their hobby being elevated to the status of "sport."

We wouldn't have to worry about what other people thought of us. We would just enjoy ourselves. We could have a few tournaments, but nothing too serious. Maybe some Koreans would start playing our game, and we could watch them on a stream. It might not be in English, but everything sounds better with Korean commentary, anyway. And then when someone sees the Korean scene, gets wide-eyed and has some stupid pipe dream about western players being as good as the Koreans, or having a gaming scene as developed as theirs, we could promptly tell them to shut the fuck up, never speak of it again, and continue with our fun.

Fuck esports.

+ Show Spoiler +
Sorry if you expected something with a little more grandeur out of a Gheed blog, but I am too annoyed to write anything else at the moment. I was going to work on either a LoL blog or another bronze blog, but this stupid thread came to my attention and epitomized everything I feel is wrong with the community. It's a thread filled with people uselessly arguing about shit that doesn't matter not because they feel it's worth arguing about, but because they worry about what other people, people not even in the community, would think about it.

The dumbest criticism my blogs have received is not that they were poorly written, or that they were mean, or that they were boring, but that I was "killing esports" by dicking around in the bronze league. Well, guess what? If the success of esports hinges on me keeping everything g-rated on the ladder, then esports already has one foot in the grave.

As I said in my post in that thread, which I assume was buried in less than a second, if Quantic does the reasonable thing and does not do shit, then I'm buying a shirt or a hoodie from them.

I'm just going to go play a single player game and forget all this exists for awhile. Diablo III is in a few weeks. I haven't watched anyone stream it or read any information about it in months. I'm simply going to buy it and play it and hope it's good. I only want a game where I can be alone, kill monsters, collect loot, and occasionally team up with a friend or two.



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leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3062 Posts
May 02 2012 01:22 GMT
#2
its nice to let it all out

is your name inspired by gheed from diablo?
banelings
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4781 Posts
May 02 2012 01:25 GMT
#3
It's okay Gheed. I know how you feel.

But esports is indeed miserable. ESPORTS on the other hand.
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5320 Posts
May 02 2012 01:29 GMT
#4
So true
Most overused word on these forums
¯\_(シ)_/¯
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6320 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 01:30:39
May 02 2012 01:29 GMT
#5
In soviet Russia, eSports hates you.

Ya, the whole phase of it kinna makes me sick too. Like when kids these days are 25, their parents are going to look back at them and laugh about when they were "all into eSports". Kinna like when I thought I was going to be a Black Belt after watching Karate Kid or some shit.

Just makes the whole thing seem so trendy and transitory. Though, I am excited about SC2 and possibly BroodWar in the future. -_-

Beats most other "sports" IMO. Feels like I can relate more.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
SpearWrit
Profile Joined February 2011
United States300 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 01:32:18
May 02 2012 01:30 GMT
#6
Ohhhh Gheed...

It's hard to rail on you for this post knowing that your own content provides myself and many others with delightful entertainment.
ESPORTS is already a business driven industry with multinational corporate interests and is no longer an "illusion"...so your own dream of fuckitall will not come to pass.


"Special Tactics is...make surprise for your enemy, and also...eh, still work." -White-Ra
CrazyF1r3f0x
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2106 Posts
May 02 2012 01:34 GMT
#7
This thread is Killing ESPORTS
Though honestly the word never really bothered me all that much.
"Actual happiness always looks pretty squalid in comparison with the overcompensations for misery."
Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4303 Posts
May 02 2012 01:34 GMT
#8
Gave up on esport long time ago, right now i watch more lol tournaments its better than seeing sc2 shits same matchups same strategies and stupid hype about foreigners that we all know koreans gonna win anyways
Forever Mirin Zyzz Son of Zeus Brother of Hercules Father of the Aesthetics
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome31477 Posts
May 02 2012 01:37 GMT
#9
This is a great blog post.
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ReturnStroke
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States798 Posts
May 02 2012 01:37 GMT
#10
This stuff would probably make me angry too, but I don't care about all of that stuff, nor do a lot of people. I think you're taking this stuff way more seriously than a lot of people. I think being apathetic towards "esports" would be a better approach. I don't like the drama either, but I definitely don't want it all to collapse. It doesn't effect me. At least it shouldn't. There are a lot of good people involved and a lot of effort and money put into it. If I don't like a house, I don't live there, but I don't need it to burn down. IDK :/
SpearWrit
Profile Joined February 2011
United States300 Posts
May 02 2012 01:38 GMT
#11
On May 02 2012 10:37 IntoTheWow wrote:
This is a great blog post.


Seconded.
"Special Tactics is...make surprise for your enemy, and also...eh, still work." -White-Ra
elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3287 Posts
May 02 2012 01:38 GMT
#12
5 stars. Good blog
d=(^_^)z
aRRoSC2
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark241 Posts
May 02 2012 01:38 GMT
#13
that thread made me lose any remaining shred of hope for humanity for me as well. jesus fucking christ
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10336 Posts
May 02 2012 01:39 GMT
#14
5/5
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
May 02 2012 01:40 GMT
#15
Probably the first blog I have read that I actually agree 100% with every single word.
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
ampson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1920 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 01:54:16
May 02 2012 01:40 GMT
#16
These are the exact same thoughts I had when reading that damn thread. 5/5 good sir for being reasonable.

Though I do still have hope for the advancement of competitive gaming, it's not worth constant witch hunts and drama and ostracizing community members. I hope people can realize this and keep it going naturally. If we never get to the mainstream, too bad, but it's not worth selling out everything that is great (and chill) about gaming.
petro1987
Profile Joined May 2009
Brazil373 Posts
May 02 2012 01:41 GMT
#17
Amen to that brother. Amen.
LegendaryDreams
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada1348 Posts
May 02 2012 01:42 GMT
#18
+1 to you

SC2 may be fun, but everyone knows deep down inside that BW is the better game. All of the SC2 bandwagon may be getting excited knowing there will be a competitive televised league in South Korea with former BW players, but they're just doing it for the money. Honestly just read up on all of the latest ODT interviews and their opinions about SC2. It's always going to be about money and politics (newsflash: we live in the 21st century now) over gameplay.

The magic is gone.
call me moxie
Nairul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States262 Posts
May 02 2012 01:45 GMT
#19
There's tradeoffs to progress, and the growth of esports is certainly no exception. You shine a light on some of the values we have lost along the way, a subject that does not get enough of the attention it deserves!
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2518 Posts
May 02 2012 01:46 GMT
#20
5/5 I couldn't agree more sadly. I hate when people say For Esports or Killing Esports
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
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