EPTMy professor just failed me [University - Socio.] - Page 3
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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Dalguno
United States2446 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On April 28 2012 09:06 Dalguno wrote: I get better syllabuses than that in high school. Honestly, I've never gotten one shorter than 2 pages. I think that's a good point to bring it up, just make sure you are prepared for what the head says after that. Good luck yo. Thanks, I have her other syllabus from her other class and it is 100% more concrete and clear. | ||
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Nick_54
United States2230 Posts
You are at risk of failing now because you were not proactive when these issues first started to occur as you have acknowledged. You admit to taking the blame in the op, but in your title you seem to be blaming the professor. Best of luck with your situation, theres two sides to every story, but I hope it works out for you especially if your version of the story is 100 percent accurate. | ||
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munchmunch
Canada789 Posts
On April 28 2012 07:01 Torte de Lini wrote: Problem is, I don't have these stories in writing. I didn't exact have a recorder on hand for when she asked if I had a mental illness; but I have another story similar story where she asked the guy if he had a writing deficit, he didn't want to come forward publicly, but maybe I'll track him down and ask him to vouch for me that this has been done before. I don't understand how she can be unqualified to teach if she's teaching so many other classes as well and has so for years. Welcome to the seedy underworld of academia, where departments hire large number of lecturers (aka. sessionals, part-time instructors, etc.) instead of tenured or tenure-track faculty. Many of the people hired as lecturers are competent and knowledgable, but the bar is definitely set lower for lecturers compared to tenure-track hires. Googling around, Concordia seems to have a very high number of part-time instructors: around 900 (compared to 2000 full-time faculty), teaching around 40% of courses. For comparison, University of Toronto claims around 20% of courses taught by part-time faculty. (These numbers are a little old, but it's really hard to find accurate numbers, because the stats are pretty embarassing for universities). | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On April 28 2012 09:11 Nick_54 wrote: Dont take this wrong way, but I would really spend a bit less time on sc and tl and more on school at this stage. If there is even a small chance of failing a class you have to eliminate it. Believe me I learned this the hard way a couple years ago and its possible to find a balance. You are at risk of failing now because you were not proactive when these issues first started to occur as you have acknowledged. You admit to taking the blame in the op, but in your title you seem to be blaming the professor. Best of luck with your situation, theres two sides to every story, but I hope it works out for you especially if your version of the story is 100 percent accurate. I'm not taking it the wrong way. In all my other classes, I am doing 100% better and I've been doing the same thing I'm doing now for the past two years and I've never been close to failing. Believe me, I have done my 9th grade twice and I struggled with French High-school for years to know what failure is, what it asks for and how to properly study, assess assignments and approach them at least remotely adequately. Ultimately, the failure mark is marked by the professor, that's what my title is suggesting simply. To say "I failed my sociology class" would be to understand how or why I failed it, which isn't indicated in any of my papers (since the one I did get back has no grade on it) in addition that I obviously don't agree with the mark (given the combination of my efforts that typically give me good grades, plus the lack of information and treatment from the teacher). Yes, 100% agree. my story is unintentionally bias because it is from my perspective :3 Thanks a lot! | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On April 28 2012 09:13 munchmunch wrote: Welcome to the seedy underworld of academia, where departments hire large number of lecturers (aka. sessionals, part-time instructors, etc.) instead of tenured or tenure-track faculty. Many of the people hired as lecturers are competent and knowledgable, but the bar is definitely set lower for lecturers compared to tenure-track hires. Googling around, Concordia seems to have a very high number of part-time instructors: around 900 (compared to 2000 full-time faculty), teaching around 40% of courses. For comparison, University of Toronto claims around 20% of courses taught by part-time faculty. (These numbers are a little old, but it's really hard to find accurate numbers, because the stats are pretty embarassing for universities). Yes, you are right. But sociology isn't exactly a demanding field and most social science professionals and part-time instructors can do the basics (which is asked). A lot of the part-time instructors are either academic achievers and published researchers or professionals of the typically associated field. | ||
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Spikeke
Canada106 Posts
Can't believe she asked if you're mentally handicapped or not. That would really, really set me off. Especially since the stupid bitch can't even do a syllabus correctly. She may have been asking because if you were to say yes, then she could've have given you second chance. Maybe even a pass. My friend in college was failing because of his "ADHD" and whatever problems. Or so thats what he told them and was able to weasel his way out of situations, getting extra leeway than "Normal" students. like come on. That's stupid, but unless she asks. It could never happen. Don't be so sensitive. Losing your shit over that doesn't help your argument... | ||
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sooch
Canada299 Posts
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Nick_54
United States2230 Posts
On April 28 2012 09:14 Torte de Lini wrote: I'm not taking it the wrong way. In all my other classes, I am doing 100% better and I've been doing the same thing I'm doing now for the past two years and I've never been close to failing. Believe me, I have done my 9th grade twice and I struggled with French High-school for years to know what failure is, what it asks for and how to properly study, assess assignments and approach them at least remotely adequately. Ultimately, the failure mark is marked by the professor, that's what my title is suggesting simply. To say "I failed my sociology class" would be to understand how or why I failed it, which isn't indicated in any of my papers (since the one I did get back has no grade on it) in addition that I obviously don't agree with the mark (given the combination of my efforts that typically give me good grades, plus the lack of information and treatment from the teacher). Yes, 100% agree. my story is unintentionally bias because it is from my perspective :3 Thanks a lot! Yeah sorry I think what I wanted to say came out a bit too harsh. I hope it works out and you should learn some valuable lessons from it either way. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On April 28 2012 09:20 Spikeke wrote: She may have been asking because if you were to say yes, then she could've have given you second chance. Maybe even a pass. My friend in college was failing because of his "ADHD" and whatever problems. Or so thats what he told them and was able to weasel his way out of situations, getting extra leeway than "Normal" students. like come on. That's stupid, but unless she asks. It could never happen. Don't be so sensitive. Losing your shit over that doesn't help your argument... My friend joked about this. Agreed, losing your shit doesn't help, but at the same time, it's just not something you ask in general. I'm pretty sure my grade should not be, officially, weighted based on my mental handicap or deviance. It's an ironic contradiction considering I'm in sociology. On April 28 2012 09:21 sooch wrote: Not sure why you didn't confront her about your grades on these unmarked assignments before the end of the year...seems like something that's important to know. Yes, it's my fault. No one else did it as far as I know either. On April 28 2012 09:23 Nick_54 wrote: Yeah sorry I think what I wanted to say came out a bit too harsh. I hope it works out and you should learn some valuable lessons from it either way. I have. Ultimately, if I fail; I fail and I can do the class over. I have the time, money and luxury of another year to wrap it up anyways. I don't intend for graduate school or get a job in a research field related to Sociology, so it's really not the end of the world. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
I do see a problem with not giving out grades though, or for calling someone mentally handicapped. | ||
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PanN
United States2828 Posts
On April 28 2012 09:20 Spikeke wrote: She may have been asking because if you were to say yes, then she could've have given you second chance. Maybe even a pass. My friend in college was failing because of his "ADHD" and whatever problems. Or so thats what he told them and was able to weasel his way out of situations, getting extra leeway than "Normal" students. like come on. That's stupid, but unless she asks. It could never happen. Don't be so sensitive. Losing your shit over that doesn't help your argument... Luckily its not my argument and I was just making conversation. =) | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
You say you have good relationships with previous profs in your SOSC classes; you might want to requisition them to give an account of your work ethic/quality/character as a person. When you appeal, tell the dean that you can get those character references if necessary, and tell the profs beforehand that they might be asked about you (explain the situation to them too). Even if you have no evidence, I would definitely mention her asking if you have a mental disease, because that is unprofessional to the extreme. Gluck. This is honestly very weird to me, because it's just difficult to fail a humanities/social sciences class short of just not turning in papers/work. | ||
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Slithe
United States985 Posts
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Ktk
Korea (South)753 Posts
Hey, the handicap accusation will certainly be a strong point in the appeal, if you have proof of it (Think she'll... Deny it?) | ||
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ninjafetus
United States231 Posts
With rewriting papers multiple times, nagging for clarification, etc. you should (hopefully) have a high grade for participation. If not, ask her what her judging criteria was. Ask if other students were judged on the same criteria. Let's even assume you have a lower grade... it probably shouldn't go below 50% if you did that much. Even if you got 5/10% on participation, 20/30 on the research paper and take home exam, SKIPPED the seminar, and got 10/20 on the film review, you should have a D in the class by her scale. For your appeal, you need to GET ORGANIZED. Records of everything! Do you have email records, any other info where you've recorded that you asked for clarification on things? Has she ever handed back graded work? Has she ever given indication on how she judges the categories? How did other students do in the class? If you have some friends in the class, maybe you can dig up evidence that the teacher is judging inconsistently. Not necessarily because of bias, but because of laziness or just "winging it" for the grade. SHOW that you made an effort. SHOW that you turned in work. I have a feeling that she has a 0 in some category that's unjustified (maybe she lost something, it happens!). Because otherwise I have no idea how you could do so bad to get a 0 unless her grading is extremely harsh. If she is missing records, then dispute that you're punished because of it. If she can, and she just grades that harshly, well... you probably should have been more tenacious getting feedback. But usually harsh grades have to be justified by some concrete reasoning. If she can't justify her grading, and never gave stuff back, and is inconsistent, you can probably show you were a victim. Good luck. | ||
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Kukaracha
France1954 Posts
Here is a song to chillax. | ||
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
sorry to hear about this, good luck | ||
fishuu
United States369 Posts
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