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On April 24 2012 05:08 ninazerg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 01:38 GlintFox wrote:
Well heres my opinion; There are some advantages to being a male in, say ironlady, males have more Testosterone which makes you more competitive. Take that how you will. Now your philosophy of what makes a woman and what doesn't will be argued by many people. For example say Scarlett robs a bank. Just because he has the frame of a woman and repersents himself as a woman does not mean shit to the court system. He will go to MALE prison. In which all of your points are moot. Now I'm not without empathy despite having an apathetic outlook on this. I think people should let others live with whatever sexual identity they want. Tourny-wise it comes down to the admins and players of said tournament to make the decision based on the qualification. Scarlett, for example knows and accept this, he also knows that trolls are likely to run rampant. What I think are worse are the internet white knights that are feeding everything and banning/downvoting everyone that says ANYTHING about it or uses the noun "he" instead of "her". In the end it doesnt matter what one says or does, especially on the internet regarding this issue. I see it as a content of the player, and I would be more concerned about my strategies vs her/him than how they live their life at the end of the day. However being as biased to shut down other opinions that are not yours makes you just as bad as the people youre aiming this at. Let live, and drone.
User was warned for this post Okay, let's get some fucking facts straight: - Females can be competitive, and have competitive attitudes. In fact, I would say we're just as competitive as guys. - Not everyone who defends Scarlett, or a female over the internet is a "White Knight". There are guys who (gasp!) stick up for other guys, and get called "dickriders". That's wrong. - Teamliquid.net and it's moderators reserve the right to warn/ban people who deliberately ignore posted warnings not troll progamers, and Scarlett is a progamer. - Nobody is "shutting down other opinions". Everyone who got warned/banned still has their opinion, but TL just doesn't want that posted here, because it's needlessly abrasive. - Gender issues can be confusing, so let me make this simple: Scarlett is a girl, the end.
Excellent post <3
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On April 24 2012 01:38 GlintFox wrote: males have more Testosterone which makes you more competitive.
User was warned for this post
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/05/080522075940.htm
"Our findings perfectly parallel what we have observed for power motivation and testosterone in men," Schultheiss said. "In men, power motivation is associated with heightened levels of testosterone, particularly after a contest victory. In women, estrogen appears to be the critical hormone for power motivation."
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I think the decision to include mtf transgender people in female-only tournaments should be made by the tourney organizer, and that we, as a community, shouldn't complain about whatever decision they make for their tournament (but still show support or not with viewership). I don't see it as much more than restricting by league or any other factor, it's just the audience that the tournament organizers want to attract.
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Okay, so I've been kind of waiting for the chance to share my opinion on the matter and sorry Tes I'm using your blog for it.
My view on the whole transgendered thing is while you may look like a female, talk like a female and act like a female, these are things that are irrelevant in Starcraft. What matters more in Starcraft is the mental side of things, which a lot of people are overlooking in this situation, everyone is too concered with the physical aspect. The mental aspect of Starcraft is a bigger part of what matters. Now before I say this, I know there are people are going to read it and be like "OMG YOU ARE A SEXIST ASSHOLE" or "YOU'RE SAYING GIRLS ARE DUMB" etc etc...no this is not my point at all. There is a reason why for the most part Starcraft 2 is dominated by the male population, and it's not the physical part, it's the mental part, and how our brains work differently. Now I say most cases because there are pro's like Tossgirl and Flo who can compete with the male population on an equal level, and they can easily beat most players in their respective games. There are other cases too but again, it's a rare case so far in Starcraft.
This relates to the Scarlett thing because while yes, Scarlett is considered a female for the way she acts/talks/appears, Scarlett still has a male mind and thinks like a male and nothing can change that unless we can somehow give Scarlett a female mind, which then she wouldn't be Scarlett anymore lol. This is a game where phsyical appearance doesn't matter, this is a game where how you think/how quickly you can think/react matters, and again I'm not being sexist/elitest/or anything, but the male mind is better suited for this in most cases, not all cases.
I agree with what someone said before me that, the tournament organizer can decide whether or not the transgendered person should be allowed in their tournament, but this is just something to think about when considering everything on transgendered people in the Starcraft community for tournanments and everything.
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On April 24 2012 05:41 fAnTaCy wrote:
Okay, so I've been kind of waiting for the chance to share my opinion on the matter and sorry Tes I'm using your blog for it.
My view on the whole transgendered thing is while you may look like a female, talk like a female and act like a female, these are things that are irrelevant in Starcraft. What matters more in Starcraft is the mental side of things, which a lot of people are overlooking in this situation, everyone is too concered with the physical aspect. The mental aspect of Starcraft is a bigger part of what matters. Now before I say this, I know there are people are going to read it and be like "OMG YOU ARE A SEXIST ASSHOLE" or "YOU'RE SAYING GIRLS ARE DUMB" etc etc...no this is not my point at all. There is a reason why for the most part Starcraft 2 is dominated by the male population, and it's not the physical part, it's the mental part, and how our brains work differently. Now I say most cases because there are pro's like Tossgirl and Flo who can compete with the male population on an equal level, and they can easily beat most players in their respective games. There are other cases too but again, it's a rare case so far in Starcraft.
This relates to the Scarlett thing because while yes, Scarlett is considered a female for the way she acts/talks/appears, Scarlett still has a male mind and thinks like a male and nothing can change that unless we can somehow give Scarlett a female mind, which then she wouldn't be Scarlett anymore lol. This is a game where phsyical appearance doesn't matter, this is a game where how you think/how quickly you can think/react matters, and again I'm not being sexist/elitest/or anything, but the male mind is better suited for this in most cases, not all cases.
I agree with what someone said before me that, the tournament organizer can decide whether or not the transgendered person should be allowed in their tournament, but this is just something to think about when considering everything on transgendered people in the Starcraft community for tournanments and everything.
you should educate yourself, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_identity_disorder
"Recent medical research on the brain structures of transgender individuals have shown that some transgender individuals have the physical brain structures that resemble their desired sex even before hormone treatment."
also wtf, i didn't even read your post that closely, but thinks like a male, that's the complete opposite of reality, how would she think like a male if she felt like she was supposed to be female, that would lead for her to be more likely to think female then male
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On April 24 2012 05:44 Coramoor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 05:41 fAnTaCy wrote:
Okay, so I've been kind of waiting for the chance to share my opinion on the matter and sorry Tes I'm using your blog for it.
My view on the whole transgendered thing is while you may look like a female, talk like a female and act like a female, these are things that are irrelevant in Starcraft. What matters more in Starcraft is the mental side of things, which a lot of people are overlooking in this situation, everyone is too concered with the physical aspect. The mental aspect of Starcraft is a bigger part of what matters. Now before I say this, I know there are people are going to read it and be like "OMG YOU ARE A SEXIST ASSHOLE" or "YOU'RE SAYING GIRLS ARE DUMB" etc etc...no this is not my point at all. There is a reason why for the most part Starcraft 2 is dominated by the male population, and it's not the physical part, it's the mental part, and how our brains work differently. Now I say most cases because there are pro's like Tossgirl and Flo who can compete with the male population on an equal level, and they can easily beat most players in their respective games. There are other cases too but again, it's a rare case so far in Starcraft.
This relates to the Scarlett thing because while yes, Scarlett is considered a female for the way she acts/talks/appears, Scarlett still has a male mind and thinks like a male and nothing can change that unless we can somehow give Scarlett a female mind, which then she wouldn't be Scarlett anymore lol. This is a game where phsyical appearance doesn't matter, this is a game where how you think/how quickly you can think/react matters, and again I'm not being sexist/elitest/or anything, but the male mind is better suited for this in most cases, not all cases.
I agree with what someone said before me that, the tournament organizer can decide whether or not the transgendered person should be allowed in their tournament, but this is just something to think about when considering everything on transgendered people in the Starcraft community for tournanments and everything. you should educate yourself, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_identity_disorder"Recent medical research on the brain structures of transgender individuals have shown that some transgender individuals have the physical brain structures that resemble their desired sex even before hormone treatment."
Let me point out the key word in that sentence...the word is "some". That word means that not every single transgendered person has this, this means a portion of the transgendered population has GID. Now, before you tell someone to educate yourself, you should also do the same, and you should also learn to post better and not be a douchebag =]. What I'm getting at for the "educate yourself as well" part, it means you should also figure out if Scarlett has GID or not, because untill someone knows (if this has been figured out before then okay, you're right, Scarlett has that and my point is wrong) then we can only assume that...thank you =]
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On April 24 2012 05:49 fAnTaCy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 05:44 Coramoor wrote:On April 24 2012 05:41 fAnTaCy wrote:
Okay, so I've been kind of waiting for the chance to share my opinion on the matter and sorry Tes I'm using your blog for it.
My view on the whole transgendered thing is while you may look like a female, talk like a female and act like a female, these are things that are irrelevant in Starcraft. What matters more in Starcraft is the mental side of things, which a lot of people are overlooking in this situation, everyone is too concered with the physical aspect. The mental aspect of Starcraft is a bigger part of what matters. Now before I say this, I know there are people are going to read it and be like "OMG YOU ARE A SEXIST ASSHOLE" or "YOU'RE SAYING GIRLS ARE DUMB" etc etc...no this is not my point at all. There is a reason why for the most part Starcraft 2 is dominated by the male population, and it's not the physical part, it's the mental part, and how our brains work differently. Now I say most cases because there are pro's like Tossgirl and Flo who can compete with the male population on an equal level, and they can easily beat most players in their respective games. There are other cases too but again, it's a rare case so far in Starcraft.
This relates to the Scarlett thing because while yes, Scarlett is considered a female for the way she acts/talks/appears, Scarlett still has a male mind and thinks like a male and nothing can change that unless we can somehow give Scarlett a female mind, which then she wouldn't be Scarlett anymore lol. This is a game where phsyical appearance doesn't matter, this is a game where how you think/how quickly you can think/react matters, and again I'm not being sexist/elitest/or anything, but the male mind is better suited for this in most cases, not all cases.
I agree with what someone said before me that, the tournament organizer can decide whether or not the transgendered person should be allowed in their tournament, but this is just something to think about when considering everything on transgendered people in the Starcraft community for tournanments and everything. you should educate yourself, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_identity_disorder"Recent medical research on the brain structures of transgender individuals have shown that some transgender individuals have the physical brain structures that resemble their desired sex even before hormone treatment." Let me point out the key word in that sentence...the word is "some". That word means that not every single transgendered person has this, this means a portion of the transgendered population has GID. Now, before you tell someone to educate yourself, you should also do the same, and you should also learn to post better and not be a douchebag =]. What I'm getting at for the "educate yourself as well" part, it means you should also figure out if Scarlett has GID or not, because untill someone knows (if this has been figured out before then okay, you're right, Scarlett has that and my point is wrong) then we can only assume that...thank you =]
every transgender person can be considered to have gender dysphoria, well i guess those who don't switch for a lark or money as happens in some asian countries. Yes not every transgender person has the opposite brain structure to their biolgoical body however you're still spouting ignorance and your first post was ignorance. learn something about this before you continue to post completely uninformed crap
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On April 24 2012 06:07 Coramoor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 05:49 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 24 2012 05:44 Coramoor wrote:On April 24 2012 05:41 fAnTaCy wrote:
Okay, so I've been kind of waiting for the chance to share my opinion on the matter and sorry Tes I'm using your blog for it.
My view on the whole transgendered thing is while you may look like a female, talk like a female and act like a female, these are things that are irrelevant in Starcraft. What matters more in Starcraft is the mental side of things, which a lot of people are overlooking in this situation, everyone is too concered with the physical aspect. The mental aspect of Starcraft is a bigger part of what matters. Now before I say this, I know there are people are going to read it and be like "OMG YOU ARE A SEXIST ASSHOLE" or "YOU'RE SAYING GIRLS ARE DUMB" etc etc...no this is not my point at all. There is a reason why for the most part Starcraft 2 is dominated by the male population, and it's not the physical part, it's the mental part, and how our brains work differently. Now I say most cases because there are pro's like Tossgirl and Flo who can compete with the male population on an equal level, and they can easily beat most players in their respective games. There are other cases too but again, it's a rare case so far in Starcraft.
This relates to the Scarlett thing because while yes, Scarlett is considered a female for the way she acts/talks/appears, Scarlett still has a male mind and thinks like a male and nothing can change that unless we can somehow give Scarlett a female mind, which then she wouldn't be Scarlett anymore lol. This is a game where phsyical appearance doesn't matter, this is a game where how you think/how quickly you can think/react matters, and again I'm not being sexist/elitest/or anything, but the male mind is better suited for this in most cases, not all cases.
I agree with what someone said before me that, the tournament organizer can decide whether or not the transgendered person should be allowed in their tournament, but this is just something to think about when considering everything on transgendered people in the Starcraft community for tournanments and everything. you should educate yourself, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_identity_disorder"Recent medical research on the brain structures of transgender individuals have shown that some transgender individuals have the physical brain structures that resemble their desired sex even before hormone treatment." Let me point out the key word in that sentence...the word is "some". That word means that not every single transgendered person has this, this means a portion of the transgendered population has GID. Now, before you tell someone to educate yourself, you should also do the same, and you should also learn to post better and not be a douchebag =]. What I'm getting at for the "educate yourself as well" part, it means you should also figure out if Scarlett has GID or not, because untill someone knows (if this has been figured out before then okay, you're right, Scarlett has that and my point is wrong) then we can only assume that...thank you =] every transgender person can be considered to have gender dysphoria, well i guess those who don't switch for a lark or money as happens in some asian countries. Yes not every transgender person has the opposite brain structure to their biolgoical body however you're still spouting ignorance and your first post was ignorance. learn something about this before you continue to post completely uninformed crap
Can be considered...doesn't mean they have it...so again, you're still assuming that Scarlett does have it..and whether she does or doesn't we don't know. Also, I could say something about your use of the word ignorance and how it was poorly done and call you ignorant yourself but...meh. Also..how is it uninformed? Do you know how exactly the brain works? Do you have a peak interest in the human brain and how it works? Are you a specialist on the human brain?
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On April 24 2012 00:12 Plexa wrote:
Regardless of the intentions behind this thread, it probably won't be long before it's ruined and we have to close it. Cmon TL prove me wrong!!
Plexa even if we took a time machine back to 2006. I don't think it's possible. ;o
On April 23 2012 23:33 Jealous wrote:
Summary: Gender is only an issue because of the organizations that promote gender distinctions.
Here; here.
In all honesty, there is no reason why a fe-male gamer cannot compete with the boys regardless of their genital. In fact, the female brain actually has a lot going for it when it comes to multitasking.
Obliterate social conventions and norms.
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On April 24 2012 06:12 fAnTaCy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 06:07 Coramoor wrote:On April 24 2012 05:49 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 24 2012 05:44 Coramoor wrote:On April 24 2012 05:41 fAnTaCy wrote:
Okay, so I've been kind of waiting for the chance to share my opinion on the matter and sorry Tes I'm using your blog for it.
My view on the whole transgendered thing is while you may look like a female, talk like a female and act like a female, these are things that are irrelevant in Starcraft. What matters more in Starcraft is the mental side of things, which a lot of people are overlooking in this situation, everyone is too concered with the physical aspect. The mental aspect of Starcraft is a bigger part of what matters. Now before I say this, I know there are people are going to read it and be like "OMG YOU ARE A SEXIST ASSHOLE" or "YOU'RE SAYING GIRLS ARE DUMB" etc etc...no this is not my point at all. There is a reason why for the most part Starcraft 2 is dominated by the male population, and it's not the physical part, it's the mental part, and how our brains work differently. Now I say most cases because there are pro's like Tossgirl and Flo who can compete with the male population on an equal level, and they can easily beat most players in their respective games. There are other cases too but again, it's a rare case so far in Starcraft.
This relates to the Scarlett thing because while yes, Scarlett is considered a female for the way she acts/talks/appears, Scarlett still has a male mind and thinks like a male and nothing can change that unless we can somehow give Scarlett a female mind, which then she wouldn't be Scarlett anymore lol. This is a game where phsyical appearance doesn't matter, this is a game where how you think/how quickly you can think/react matters, and again I'm not being sexist/elitest/or anything, but the male mind is better suited for this in most cases, not all cases.
I agree with what someone said before me that, the tournament organizer can decide whether or not the transgendered person should be allowed in their tournament, but this is just something to think about when considering everything on transgendered people in the Starcraft community for tournanments and everything. you should educate yourself, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_identity_disorder"Recent medical research on the brain structures of transgender individuals have shown that some transgender individuals have the physical brain structures that resemble their desired sex even before hormone treatment." Let me point out the key word in that sentence...the word is "some". That word means that not every single transgendered person has this, this means a portion of the transgendered population has GID. Now, before you tell someone to educate yourself, you should also do the same, and you should also learn to post better and not be a douchebag =]. What I'm getting at for the "educate yourself as well" part, it means you should also figure out if Scarlett has GID or not, because untill someone knows (if this has been figured out before then okay, you're right, Scarlett has that and my point is wrong) then we can only assume that...thank you =] every transgender person can be considered to have gender dysphoria, well i guess those who don't switch for a lark or money as happens in some asian countries. Yes not every transgender person has the opposite brain structure to their biolgoical body however you're still spouting ignorance and your first post was ignorance. learn something about this before you continue to post completely uninformed crap Can be considered...doesn't mean they have it...so again, you're still assuming that Scarlett does have it..and whether she does or doesn't we don't know. Also, I could say something about your use of the word ignorance and how it was poorly done and call you ignorant yourself but...meh. Also..how is it uninformed? Do you know how exactly the brain works? Do you have a peak interest in the human brain and how it works? Are you a specialist on the human brain?
gender dysphoria unhappiness with one's biological sex or its usual gender role, with the desire for the body and role of the opposite sex.
gender dysphoria
n.
A persistent unease with having the physical characteristics of one's gender, accompanied by strong identification with the opposite gender and a desire to live as or to become a member of the opposite gender.
how do these definitions leave any room for your bullshit semantic arguments except in the cases of money and because it might be fun
As to my interest, I originally wanted to go to school to be a doctor, psychiatrist specifically, focusing on gender identity issues in teenagers...
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Hey Fantacy, saying "I'm not being sexist/elitest/or anything, but the male mind is better suited for this in most cases, not all cases" is sexist! You have to demonstrate evidence to make such a claim! There's no reason to believe that!
On April 24 2012 05:06 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 04:50 DoubleReed wrote:
Babylon, if my behavior towards transgendered individuals does not change after researching the idea, why would it be so imperative that I look it up? Why is "I don't understand" a bad answer, when I may never understand? a.) Because learning new shit is good, and hearing/reading new perspectives is good. b.) Because you say you don't understand then proceed to expound upon the subject and offer your opinion on it after you have already admitted you don't know wtf you are talking about. It's like me saying, "Oh, I don't play LoL, but LET ME TELL YOU WHAT I THINK ABOUT THE GAME ANYWAYS." You can see how this can be mildly irritating, esp. since this behavior is so unavoidable.
a) Okeedokee.
b) So you did explain some things so I don't mean this with too much vitriol, but keep in mind it's also irritating to come into a topic with an open-mind, fully-admitting ignorance, and be treated with disdain and derision. I don't really know what conclusion I came to in my initial post that irritated you so, because I really didn't give any opinions other than "I don't really get it."
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On April 24 2012 06:18 Coramoor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 06:12 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 24 2012 06:07 Coramoor wrote:On April 24 2012 05:49 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 24 2012 05:44 Coramoor wrote:On April 24 2012 05:41 fAnTaCy wrote:
Okay, so I've been kind of waiting for the chance to share my opinion on the matter and sorry Tes I'm using your blog for it.
My view on the whole transgendered thing is while you may look like a female, talk like a female and act like a female, these are things that are irrelevant in Starcraft. What matters more in Starcraft is the mental side of things, which a lot of people are overlooking in this situation, everyone is too concered with the physical aspect. The mental aspect of Starcraft is a bigger part of what matters. Now before I say this, I know there are people are going to read it and be like "OMG YOU ARE A SEXIST ASSHOLE" or "YOU'RE SAYING GIRLS ARE DUMB" etc etc...no this is not my point at all. There is a reason why for the most part Starcraft 2 is dominated by the male population, and it's not the physical part, it's the mental part, and how our brains work differently. Now I say most cases because there are pro's like Tossgirl and Flo who can compete with the male population on an equal level, and they can easily beat most players in their respective games. There are other cases too but again, it's a rare case so far in Starcraft.
This relates to the Scarlett thing because while yes, Scarlett is considered a female for the way she acts/talks/appears, Scarlett still has a male mind and thinks like a male and nothing can change that unless we can somehow give Scarlett a female mind, which then she wouldn't be Scarlett anymore lol. This is a game where phsyical appearance doesn't matter, this is a game where how you think/how quickly you can think/react matters, and again I'm not being sexist/elitest/or anything, but the male mind is better suited for this in most cases, not all cases.
I agree with what someone said before me that, the tournament organizer can decide whether or not the transgendered person should be allowed in their tournament, but this is just something to think about when considering everything on transgendered people in the Starcraft community for tournanments and everything. you should educate yourself, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_identity_disorder"Recent medical research on the brain structures of transgender individuals have shown that some transgender individuals have the physical brain structures that resemble their desired sex even before hormone treatment." Let me point out the key word in that sentence...the word is "some". That word means that not every single transgendered person has this, this means a portion of the transgendered population has GID. Now, before you tell someone to educate yourself, you should also do the same, and you should also learn to post better and not be a douchebag =]. What I'm getting at for the "educate yourself as well" part, it means you should also figure out if Scarlett has GID or not, because untill someone knows (if this has been figured out before then okay, you're right, Scarlett has that and my point is wrong) then we can only assume that...thank you =] every transgender person can be considered to have gender dysphoria, well i guess those who don't switch for a lark or money as happens in some asian countries. Yes not every transgender person has the opposite brain structure to their biolgoical body however you're still spouting ignorance and your first post was ignorance. learn something about this before you continue to post completely uninformed crap Can be considered...doesn't mean they have it...so again, you're still assuming that Scarlett does have it..and whether she does or doesn't we don't know. Also, I could say something about your use of the word ignorance and how it was poorly done and call you ignorant yourself but...meh. Also..how is it uninformed? Do you know how exactly the brain works? Do you have a peak interest in the human brain and how it works? Are you a specialist on the human brain? gender dysphoria unhappiness with one's biological sex or its usual gender role, with the desire for the body and role of the opposite sex. gender dysphoria n. A persistent unease with having the physical characteristics of one's gender, accompanied by strong identification with the opposite gender and a desire to live as or to become a member of the opposite gender. how do these definitions leave any room for your bullshit semantic arguments except in the cases of money and because it might be fun As to my interest, I originally wanted to go to school to be a doctor, psychiatrist specifically, focusing on gender identity issues in teenagers...
Doesn't say anything with how the male mind works differently from the female mind.....
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On April 24 2012 06:22 fAnTaCy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 06:18 Coramoor wrote:On April 24 2012 06:12 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 24 2012 06:07 Coramoor wrote:On April 24 2012 05:49 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 24 2012 05:44 Coramoor wrote:On April 24 2012 05:41 fAnTaCy wrote:
Okay, so I've been kind of waiting for the chance to share my opinion on the matter and sorry Tes I'm using your blog for it.
My view on the whole transgendered thing is while you may look like a female, talk like a female and act like a female, these are things that are irrelevant in Starcraft. What matters more in Starcraft is the mental side of things, which a lot of people are overlooking in this situation, everyone is too concered with the physical aspect. The mental aspect of Starcraft is a bigger part of what matters. Now before I say this, I know there are people are going to read it and be like "OMG YOU ARE A SEXIST ASSHOLE" or "YOU'RE SAYING GIRLS ARE DUMB" etc etc...no this is not my point at all. There is a reason why for the most part Starcraft 2 is dominated by the male population, and it's not the physical part, it's the mental part, and how our brains work differently. Now I say most cases because there are pro's like Tossgirl and Flo who can compete with the male population on an equal level, and they can easily beat most players in their respective games. There are other cases too but again, it's a rare case so far in Starcraft.
This relates to the Scarlett thing because while yes, Scarlett is considered a female for the way she acts/talks/appears, Scarlett still has a male mind and thinks like a male and nothing can change that unless we can somehow give Scarlett a female mind, which then she wouldn't be Scarlett anymore lol. This is a game where phsyical appearance doesn't matter, this is a game where how you think/how quickly you can think/react matters, and again I'm not being sexist/elitest/or anything, but the male mind is better suited for this in most cases, not all cases.
I agree with what someone said before me that, the tournament organizer can decide whether or not the transgendered person should be allowed in their tournament, but this is just something to think about when considering everything on transgendered people in the Starcraft community for tournanments and everything. you should educate yourself, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_identity_disorder"Recent medical research on the brain structures of transgender individuals have shown that some transgender individuals have the physical brain structures that resemble their desired sex even before hormone treatment." Let me point out the key word in that sentence...the word is "some". That word means that not every single transgendered person has this, this means a portion of the transgendered population has GID. Now, before you tell someone to educate yourself, you should also do the same, and you should also learn to post better and not be a douchebag =]. What I'm getting at for the "educate yourself as well" part, it means you should also figure out if Scarlett has GID or not, because untill someone knows (if this has been figured out before then okay, you're right, Scarlett has that and my point is wrong) then we can only assume that...thank you =] every transgender person can be considered to have gender dysphoria, well i guess those who don't switch for a lark or money as happens in some asian countries. Yes not every transgender person has the opposite brain structure to their biolgoical body however you're still spouting ignorance and your first post was ignorance. learn something about this before you continue to post completely uninformed crap Can be considered...doesn't mean they have it...so again, you're still assuming that Scarlett does have it..and whether she does or doesn't we don't know. Also, I could say something about your use of the word ignorance and how it was poorly done and call you ignorant yourself but...meh. Also..how is it uninformed? Do you know how exactly the brain works? Do you have a peak interest in the human brain and how it works? Are you a specialist on the human brain? gender dysphoria unhappiness with one's biological sex or its usual gender role, with the desire for the body and role of the opposite sex. gender dysphoria n. A persistent unease with having the physical characteristics of one's gender, accompanied by strong identification with the opposite gender and a desire to live as or to become a member of the opposite gender. how do these definitions leave any room for your bullshit semantic arguments except in the cases of money and because it might be fun As to my interest, I originally wanted to go to school to be a doctor, psychiatrist specifically, focusing on gender identity issues in teenagers... Doesn't say anything with how the male mind works differently from the female mind.....
well the mind will change under hormone therapy, so your point is ridiculous, you're arguing the crap out of semantics on a specific case in which none of us can possible know the actual situation
you just don't like being proved wrong, and incredibly sexist, i agree with the guy above, your argument is the same to the effect that women can't lead in combat or can't be good generals, and there is absolutely no proof of that, yes male and female brains are different, and are more suited to different things, but things such as this, no evidence whatsoever
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On April 24 2012 06:29 Coramoor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 06:22 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 24 2012 06:18 Coramoor wrote:On April 24 2012 06:12 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 24 2012 06:07 Coramoor wrote:On April 24 2012 05:49 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 24 2012 05:44 Coramoor wrote:On April 24 2012 05:41 fAnTaCy wrote:
Okay, so I've been kind of waiting for the chance to share my opinion on the matter and sorry Tes I'm using your blog for it.
My view on the whole transgendered thing is while you may look like a female, talk like a female and act like a female, these are things that are irrelevant in Starcraft. What matters more in Starcraft is the mental side of things, which a lot of people are overlooking in this situation, everyone is too concered with the physical aspect. The mental aspect of Starcraft is a bigger part of what matters. Now before I say this, I know there are people are going to read it and be like "OMG YOU ARE A SEXIST ASSHOLE" or "YOU'RE SAYING GIRLS ARE DUMB" etc etc...no this is not my point at all. There is a reason why for the most part Starcraft 2 is dominated by the male population, and it's not the physical part, it's the mental part, and how our brains work differently. Now I say most cases because there are pro's like Tossgirl and Flo who can compete with the male population on an equal level, and they can easily beat most players in their respective games. There are other cases too but again, it's a rare case so far in Starcraft.
This relates to the Scarlett thing because while yes, Scarlett is considered a female for the way she acts/talks/appears, Scarlett still has a male mind and thinks like a male and nothing can change that unless we can somehow give Scarlett a female mind, which then she wouldn't be Scarlett anymore lol. This is a game where phsyical appearance doesn't matter, this is a game where how you think/how quickly you can think/react matters, and again I'm not being sexist/elitest/or anything, but the male mind is better suited for this in most cases, not all cases.
I agree with what someone said before me that, the tournament organizer can decide whether or not the transgendered person should be allowed in their tournament, but this is just something to think about when considering everything on transgendered people in the Starcraft community for tournanments and everything. you should educate yourself, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_identity_disorder"Recent medical research on the brain structures of transgender individuals have shown that some transgender individuals have the physical brain structures that resemble their desired sex even before hormone treatment." Let me point out the key word in that sentence...the word is "some". That word means that not every single transgendered person has this, this means a portion of the transgendered population has GID. Now, before you tell someone to educate yourself, you should also do the same, and you should also learn to post better and not be a douchebag =]. What I'm getting at for the "educate yourself as well" part, it means you should also figure out if Scarlett has GID or not, because untill someone knows (if this has been figured out before then okay, you're right, Scarlett has that and my point is wrong) then we can only assume that...thank you =] every transgender person can be considered to have gender dysphoria, well i guess those who don't switch for a lark or money as happens in some asian countries. Yes not every transgender person has the opposite brain structure to their biolgoical body however you're still spouting ignorance and your first post was ignorance. learn something about this before you continue to post completely uninformed crap Can be considered...doesn't mean they have it...so again, you're still assuming that Scarlett does have it..and whether she does or doesn't we don't know. Also, I could say something about your use of the word ignorance and how it was poorly done and call you ignorant yourself but...meh. Also..how is it uninformed? Do you know how exactly the brain works? Do you have a peak interest in the human brain and how it works? Are you a specialist on the human brain? gender dysphoria unhappiness with one's biological sex or its usual gender role, with the desire for the body and role of the opposite sex. gender dysphoria n. A persistent unease with having the physical characteristics of one's gender, accompanied by strong identification with the opposite gender and a desire to live as or to become a member of the opposite gender. how do these definitions leave any room for your bullshit semantic arguments except in the cases of money and because it might be fun As to my interest, I originally wanted to go to school to be a doctor, psychiatrist specifically, focusing on gender identity issues in teenagers... Doesn't say anything with how the male mind works differently from the female mind..... well the mind will change under hormone therapy, so your point is ridiculous, you're arguing the crap out of semantics on a specific case in which none of us can possible know the actual situation you just don't like being proved wrong, and incredibly sexist, i agree with the guy above, your argument is the same to the effect that women can't lead in combat or can't be good generals, and there is absolutely no proof of that, yes male and female brains are different, and are more suited to different things, but things such as this, no evidence whatsoever
I'm stating what is generally true in Starcraft and I'm notb eing sexist or anything -_-, you're the one trying to prove me wrong with stuff that isn't really proven in Scarlett nor related to what I'm stating.
No I don't mind being proven wrong...but only if you actually prove me wrong, which you have failed to do so far. I am nowhere near saying women can't lead in combat, be good generals etc. you are taking what I am saying out of context. As for evidence...look at the Starcraft scene buddy...how many female pro's are there compared to male pros? This is what I'm getting at, again I'm not being sexist, I'd like to see more female pro's..but this is what I'm going off of, you're just being an idiot and trying to prove me wrong with useless unrelated crap to what I'm saying....now...if you want to provide some actual evidence that supports your argument related to this...please feel free too..otherwise have a good day sir =]
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On April 24 2012 06:37 fAnTaCy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 06:29 Coramoor wrote:On April 24 2012 06:22 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 24 2012 06:18 Coramoor wrote:On April 24 2012 06:12 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 24 2012 06:07 Coramoor wrote:On April 24 2012 05:49 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 24 2012 05:44 Coramoor wrote:On April 24 2012 05:41 fAnTaCy wrote:
Okay, so I've been kind of waiting for the chance to share my opinion on the matter and sorry Tes I'm using your blog for it.
My view on the whole transgendered thing is while you may look like a female, talk like a female and act like a female, these are things that are irrelevant in Starcraft. What matters more in Starcraft is the mental side of things, which a lot of people are overlooking in this situation, everyone is too concered with the physical aspect. The mental aspect of Starcraft is a bigger part of what matters. Now before I say this, I know there are people are going to read it and be like "OMG YOU ARE A SEXIST ASSHOLE" or "YOU'RE SAYING GIRLS ARE DUMB" etc etc...no this is not my point at all. There is a reason why for the most part Starcraft 2 is dominated by the male population, and it's not the physical part, it's the mental part, and how our brains work differently. Now I say most cases because there are pro's like Tossgirl and Flo who can compete with the male population on an equal level, and they can easily beat most players in their respective games. There are other cases too but again, it's a rare case so far in Starcraft.
This relates to the Scarlett thing because while yes, Scarlett is considered a female for the way she acts/talks/appears, Scarlett still has a male mind and thinks like a male and nothing can change that unless we can somehow give Scarlett a female mind, which then she wouldn't be Scarlett anymore lol. This is a game where phsyical appearance doesn't matter, this is a game where how you think/how quickly you can think/react matters, and again I'm not being sexist/elitest/or anything, but the male mind is better suited for this in most cases, not all cases.
I agree with what someone said before me that, the tournament organizer can decide whether or not the transgendered person should be allowed in their tournament, but this is just something to think about when considering everything on transgendered people in the Starcraft community for tournanments and everything. you should educate yourself, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_identity_disorder"Recent medical research on the brain structures of transgender individuals have shown that some transgender individuals have the physical brain structures that resemble their desired sex even before hormone treatment." Let me point out the key word in that sentence...the word is "some". That word means that not every single transgendered person has this, this means a portion of the transgendered population has GID. Now, before you tell someone to educate yourself, you should also do the same, and you should also learn to post better and not be a douchebag =]. What I'm getting at for the "educate yourself as well" part, it means you should also figure out if Scarlett has GID or not, because untill someone knows (if this has been figured out before then okay, you're right, Scarlett has that and my point is wrong) then we can only assume that...thank you =] every transgender person can be considered to have gender dysphoria, well i guess those who don't switch for a lark or money as happens in some asian countries. Yes not every transgender person has the opposite brain structure to their biolgoical body however you're still spouting ignorance and your first post was ignorance. learn something about this before you continue to post completely uninformed crap Can be considered...doesn't mean they have it...so again, you're still assuming that Scarlett does have it..and whether she does or doesn't we don't know. Also, I could say something about your use of the word ignorance and how it was poorly done and call you ignorant yourself but...meh. Also..how is it uninformed? Do you know how exactly the brain works? Do you have a peak interest in the human brain and how it works? Are you a specialist on the human brain? gender dysphoria unhappiness with one's biological sex or its usual gender role, with the desire for the body and role of the opposite sex. gender dysphoria n. A persistent unease with having the physical characteristics of one's gender, accompanied by strong identification with the opposite gender and a desire to live as or to become a member of the opposite gender. how do these definitions leave any room for your bullshit semantic arguments except in the cases of money and because it might be fun As to my interest, I originally wanted to go to school to be a doctor, psychiatrist specifically, focusing on gender identity issues in teenagers... Doesn't say anything with how the male mind works differently from the female mind..... well the mind will change under hormone therapy, so your point is ridiculous, you're arguing the crap out of semantics on a specific case in which none of us can possible know the actual situation you just don't like being proved wrong, and incredibly sexist, i agree with the guy above, your argument is the same to the effect that women can't lead in combat or can't be good generals, and there is absolutely no proof of that, yes male and female brains are different, and are more suited to different things, but things such as this, no evidence whatsoever I'm stating what is generally true in Starcraft and I'm notb eing sexist or anything -_-, you're the one trying to prove me wrong with stuff that isn't really proven in Scarlett nor related to what I'm stating. No I don't mind being proven wrong...but only if you actually prove me wrong, which you have failed to do so far. I am nowhere near saying women can't lead in combat, be good generals etc. you are taking what I am saying out of context. As for evidence...look at the Starcraft scene buddy...how many female pro's are there compared to male pros? This is what I'm getting at, again I'm not being sexist, I'd like to see more female pro's..but this is what I'm going off of, you're just being an idiot and trying to prove me wrong with useless unrelated crap to what I'm saying....now...if you want to provide some actual evidence that supports your argument related to this...please feel free too..otherwise have a good day sir =]
Actually, no. The proof is on you to make such a claim. There are very few women in the starcraft community at all, which may show a lack of interest by girls, but not show a lack of competence.
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On April 24 2012 06:37 fAnTaCy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 06:29 Coramoor wrote:On April 24 2012 06:22 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 24 2012 06:18 Coramoor wrote:On April 24 2012 06:12 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 24 2012 06:07 Coramoor wrote:On April 24 2012 05:49 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 24 2012 05:44 Coramoor wrote:On April 24 2012 05:41 fAnTaCy wrote:
Okay, so I've been kind of waiting for the chance to share my opinion on the matter and sorry Tes I'm using your blog for it.
My view on the whole transgendered thing is while you may look like a female, talk like a female and act like a female, these are things that are irrelevant in Starcraft. What matters more in Starcraft is the mental side of things, which a lot of people are overlooking in this situation, everyone is too concered with the physical aspect. The mental aspect of Starcraft is a bigger part of what matters. Now before I say this, I know there are people are going to read it and be like "OMG YOU ARE A SEXIST ASSHOLE" or "YOU'RE SAYING GIRLS ARE DUMB" etc etc...no this is not my point at all. There is a reason why for the most part Starcraft 2 is dominated by the male population, and it's not the physical part, it's the mental part, and how our brains work differently. Now I say most cases because there are pro's like Tossgirl and Flo who can compete with the male population on an equal level, and they can easily beat most players in their respective games. There are other cases too but again, it's a rare case so far in Starcraft.
This relates to the Scarlett thing because while yes, Scarlett is considered a female for the way she acts/talks/appears, Scarlett still has a male mind and thinks like a male and nothing can change that unless we can somehow give Scarlett a female mind, which then she wouldn't be Scarlett anymore lol. This is a game where phsyical appearance doesn't matter, this is a game where how you think/how quickly you can think/react matters, and again I'm not being sexist/elitest/or anything, but the male mind is better suited for this in most cases, not all cases.
I agree with what someone said before me that, the tournament organizer can decide whether or not the transgendered person should be allowed in their tournament, but this is just something to think about when considering everything on transgendered people in the Starcraft community for tournanments and everything. you should educate yourself, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_identity_disorder"Recent medical research on the brain structures of transgender individuals have shown that some transgender individuals have the physical brain structures that resemble their desired sex even before hormone treatment." Let me point out the key word in that sentence...the word is "some". That word means that not every single transgendered person has this, this means a portion of the transgendered population has GID. Now, before you tell someone to educate yourself, you should also do the same, and you should also learn to post better and not be a douchebag =]. What I'm getting at for the "educate yourself as well" part, it means you should also figure out if Scarlett has GID or not, because untill someone knows (if this has been figured out before then okay, you're right, Scarlett has that and my point is wrong) then we can only assume that...thank you =] every transgender person can be considered to have gender dysphoria, well i guess those who don't switch for a lark or money as happens in some asian countries. Yes not every transgender person has the opposite brain structure to their biolgoical body however you're still spouting ignorance and your first post was ignorance. learn something about this before you continue to post completely uninformed crap Can be considered...doesn't mean they have it...so again, you're still assuming that Scarlett does have it..and whether she does or doesn't we don't know. Also, I could say something about your use of the word ignorance and how it was poorly done and call you ignorant yourself but...meh. Also..how is it uninformed? Do you know how exactly the brain works? Do you have a peak interest in the human brain and how it works? Are you a specialist on the human brain? gender dysphoria unhappiness with one's biological sex or its usual gender role, with the desire for the body and role of the opposite sex. gender dysphoria n. A persistent unease with having the physical characteristics of one's gender, accompanied by strong identification with the opposite gender and a desire to live as or to become a member of the opposite gender. how do these definitions leave any room for your bullshit semantic arguments except in the cases of money and because it might be fun As to my interest, I originally wanted to go to school to be a doctor, psychiatrist specifically, focusing on gender identity issues in teenagers... Doesn't say anything with how the male mind works differently from the female mind..... well the mind will change under hormone therapy, so your point is ridiculous, you're arguing the crap out of semantics on a specific case in which none of us can possible know the actual situation you just don't like being proved wrong, and incredibly sexist, i agree with the guy above, your argument is the same to the effect that women can't lead in combat or can't be good generals, and there is absolutely no proof of that, yes male and female brains are different, and are more suited to different things, but things such as this, no evidence whatsoever I'm stating what is generally true in Starcraft and I'm notb eing sexist or anything -_-, you're the one trying to prove me wrong with stuff that isn't really proven in Scarlett nor related to what I'm stating. No I don't mind being proven wrong...but only if you actually prove me wrong, which you have failed to do so far. I am nowhere near saying women can't lead in combat, be good generals etc. you are taking what I am saying out of context. As for evidence...look at the Starcraft scene buddy...how many female pro's are there compared to male pros? This is what I'm getting at, again I'm not being sexist, I'd like to see more female pro's..but this is what I'm going off of, you're just being an idiot and trying to prove me wrong with useless unrelated crap to what I'm saying....now...if you want to provide some actual evidence that supports your argument related to this...please feel free too..otherwise have a good day sir =]
nurture not nature, i was given a gaming console at 4, sega gen, those were good times, if i were a girl, i know for a fact i would not have been given one at 4, you can see this trend in how we as a society have raised the genders and therefore the number of hardcore female gamers is a lot lower then that of males, which can be carried over to to every element of esport style discussions, there is no evidence whatsoever that females are inherently worse at this game
scarlett is an interesting situation due to being born physically male and probably being raised male for a while, hence this might make a difference in that scenario, however as I don't know her personal situation I can't comment aside from what i just said
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On April 24 2012 06:44 DoubleReed wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 06:37 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 24 2012 06:29 Coramoor wrote:On April 24 2012 06:22 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 24 2012 06:18 Coramoor wrote:On April 24 2012 06:12 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 24 2012 06:07 Coramoor wrote:On April 24 2012 05:49 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 24 2012 05:44 Coramoor wrote:On April 24 2012 05:41 fAnTaCy wrote:
Okay, so I've been kind of waiting for the chance to share my opinion on the matter and sorry Tes I'm using your blog for it.
My view on the whole transgendered thing is while you may look like a female, talk like a female and act like a female, these are things that are irrelevant in Starcraft. What matters more in Starcraft is the mental side of things, which a lot of people are overlooking in this situation, everyone is too concered with the physical aspect. The mental aspect of Starcraft is a bigger part of what matters. Now before I say this, I know there are people are going to read it and be like "OMG YOU ARE A SEXIST ASSHOLE" or "YOU'RE SAYING GIRLS ARE DUMB" etc etc...no this is not my point at all. There is a reason why for the most part Starcraft 2 is dominated by the male population, and it's not the physical part, it's the mental part, and how our brains work differently. Now I say most cases because there are pro's like Tossgirl and Flo who can compete with the male population on an equal level, and they can easily beat most players in their respective games. There are other cases too but again, it's a rare case so far in Starcraft.
This relates to the Scarlett thing because while yes, Scarlett is considered a female for the way she acts/talks/appears, Scarlett still has a male mind and thinks like a male and nothing can change that unless we can somehow give Scarlett a female mind, which then she wouldn't be Scarlett anymore lol. This is a game where phsyical appearance doesn't matter, this is a game where how you think/how quickly you can think/react matters, and again I'm not being sexist/elitest/or anything, but the male mind is better suited for this in most cases, not all cases.
I agree with what someone said before me that, the tournament organizer can decide whether or not the transgendered person should be allowed in their tournament, but this is just something to think about when considering everything on transgendered people in the Starcraft community for tournanments and everything. you should educate yourself, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_identity_disorder"Recent medical research on the brain structures of transgender individuals have shown that some transgender individuals have the physical brain structures that resemble their desired sex even before hormone treatment." Let me point out the key word in that sentence...the word is "some". That word means that not every single transgendered person has this, this means a portion of the transgendered population has GID. Now, before you tell someone to educate yourself, you should also do the same, and you should also learn to post better and not be a douchebag =]. What I'm getting at for the "educate yourself as well" part, it means you should also figure out if Scarlett has GID or not, because untill someone knows (if this has been figured out before then okay, you're right, Scarlett has that and my point is wrong) then we can only assume that...thank you =] every transgender person can be considered to have gender dysphoria, well i guess those who don't switch for a lark or money as happens in some asian countries. Yes not every transgender person has the opposite brain structure to their biolgoical body however you're still spouting ignorance and your first post was ignorance. learn something about this before you continue to post completely uninformed crap Can be considered...doesn't mean they have it...so again, you're still assuming that Scarlett does have it..and whether she does or doesn't we don't know. Also, I could say something about your use of the word ignorance and how it was poorly done and call you ignorant yourself but...meh. Also..how is it uninformed? Do you know how exactly the brain works? Do you have a peak interest in the human brain and how it works? Are you a specialist on the human brain? gender dysphoria unhappiness with one's biological sex or its usual gender role, with the desire for the body and role of the opposite sex. gender dysphoria n. A persistent unease with having the physical characteristics of one's gender, accompanied by strong identification with the opposite gender and a desire to live as or to become a member of the opposite gender. how do these definitions leave any room for your bullshit semantic arguments except in the cases of money and because it might be fun As to my interest, I originally wanted to go to school to be a doctor, psychiatrist specifically, focusing on gender identity issues in teenagers... Doesn't say anything with how the male mind works differently from the female mind..... well the mind will change under hormone therapy, so your point is ridiculous, you're arguing the crap out of semantics on a specific case in which none of us can possible know the actual situation you just don't like being proved wrong, and incredibly sexist, i agree with the guy above, your argument is the same to the effect that women can't lead in combat or can't be good generals, and there is absolutely no proof of that, yes male and female brains are different, and are more suited to different things, but things such as this, no evidence whatsoever I'm stating what is generally true in Starcraft and I'm notb eing sexist or anything -_-, you're the one trying to prove me wrong with stuff that isn't really proven in Scarlett nor related to what I'm stating. No I don't mind being proven wrong...but only if you actually prove me wrong, which you have failed to do so far. I am nowhere near saying women can't lead in combat, be good generals etc. you are taking what I am saying out of context. As for evidence...look at the Starcraft scene buddy...how many female pro's are there compared to male pros? This is what I'm getting at, again I'm not being sexist, I'd like to see more female pro's..but this is what I'm going off of, you're just being an idiot and trying to prove me wrong with useless unrelated crap to what I'm saying....now...if you want to provide some actual evidence that supports your argument related to this...please feel free too..otherwise have a good day sir =] Actually, no. The proof is on you to make such a claim. There are very few women in the starcraft community at all, which may show a lack of interest by girls, but not show a lack of competence.
Wait at what point did I say that women gave a lack in competence anywhere in any of my posts?
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On April 23 2012 23:27 Th1rdEye wrote:
Just sayign .. if they dont have a vagina they arent a female.. It's biologically impossible to reproduce that way when you need a male and female..
You can call them a female.. but hey...i dont know any "women" i've been with that dont have the above body part.. for instance, if I ended up dating a transgendered individual who thought they were a woman, but really weren't... do you think I would be "okay" with that?
I understand your point, and that you're explaining transgendered individuals better, but at the same time no matter what you say to me I will not accept something with a penis as a TRUE female... no matter what he or she says she is
Beyond that, It doesn't really matter because I am not going to go around looking for transgendered people to call them out on their differences or how they choose to live their life
It takes a truly intellectual individual to identify a person solely by their genitals. Can you also define a person's future by their penis size?
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On April 24 2012 06:52 fAnTaCy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 06:44 DoubleReed wrote:On April 24 2012 06:37 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 24 2012 06:29 Coramoor wrote:On April 24 2012 06:22 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 24 2012 06:18 Coramoor wrote:On April 24 2012 06:12 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 24 2012 06:07 Coramoor wrote:On April 24 2012 05:49 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 24 2012 05:44 Coramoor wrote:[quote] you should educate yourself, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_identity_disorder"Recent medical research on the brain structures of transgender individuals have shown that some transgender individuals have the physical brain structures that resemble their desired sex even before hormone treatment." Let me point out the key word in that sentence...the word is "some". That word means that not every single transgendered person has this, this means a portion of the transgendered population has GID. Now, before you tell someone to educate yourself, you should also do the same, and you should also learn to post better and not be a douchebag =]. What I'm getting at for the "educate yourself as well" part, it means you should also figure out if Scarlett has GID or not, because untill someone knows (if this has been figured out before then okay, you're right, Scarlett has that and my point is wrong) then we can only assume that...thank you =] every transgender person can be considered to have gender dysphoria, well i guess those who don't switch for a lark or money as happens in some asian countries. Yes not every transgender person has the opposite brain structure to their biolgoical body however you're still spouting ignorance and your first post was ignorance. learn something about this before you continue to post completely uninformed crap Can be considered...doesn't mean they have it...so again, you're still assuming that Scarlett does have it..and whether she does or doesn't we don't know. Also, I could say something about your use of the word ignorance and how it was poorly done and call you ignorant yourself but...meh. Also..how is it uninformed? Do you know how exactly the brain works? Do you have a peak interest in the human brain and how it works? Are you a specialist on the human brain? gender dysphoria unhappiness with one's biological sex or its usual gender role, with the desire for the body and role of the opposite sex. gender dysphoria n. A persistent unease with having the physical characteristics of one's gender, accompanied by strong identification with the opposite gender and a desire to live as or to become a member of the opposite gender. how do these definitions leave any room for your bullshit semantic arguments except in the cases of money and because it might be fun As to my interest, I originally wanted to go to school to be a doctor, psychiatrist specifically, focusing on gender identity issues in teenagers... Doesn't say anything with how the male mind works differently from the female mind..... well the mind will change under hormone therapy, so your point is ridiculous, you're arguing the crap out of semantics on a specific case in which none of us can possible know the actual situation you just don't like being proved wrong, and incredibly sexist, i agree with the guy above, your argument is the same to the effect that women can't lead in combat or can't be good generals, and there is absolutely no proof of that, yes male and female brains are different, and are more suited to different things, but things such as this, no evidence whatsoever I'm stating what is generally true in Starcraft and I'm notb eing sexist or anything -_-, you're the one trying to prove me wrong with stuff that isn't really proven in Scarlett nor related to what I'm stating. No I don't mind being proven wrong...but only if you actually prove me wrong, which you have failed to do so far. I am nowhere near saying women can't lead in combat, be good generals etc. you are taking what I am saying out of context. As for evidence...look at the Starcraft scene buddy...how many female pro's are there compared to male pros? This is what I'm getting at, again I'm not being sexist, I'd like to see more female pro's..but this is what I'm going off of, you're just being an idiot and trying to prove me wrong with useless unrelated crap to what I'm saying....now...if you want to provide some actual evidence that supports your argument related to this...please feel free too..otherwise have a good day sir =] Actually, no. The proof is on you to make such a claim. There are very few women in the starcraft community at all, which may show a lack of interest by girls, but not show a lack of competence. Wait at what point did I say that women gave a lack in competence anywhere in any of my posts?
you specifically say the male brain is more suited to sc2, you're just being incredibly semantical for no reaason
here is your quote
"There is a reason why for the most part Starcraft 2 is dominated by the male population, and it's not the physical part, it's the mental part, and how our brains work differently."
you haven't provided any proof or context for that statement aside from baseless assertions
as i said in my last post, nurture is an important element in the discussion which you are completely ignoring
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