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Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-26 07:05:10
February 26 2012 07:04 GMT
#1
College/Majors/UK/Present?
So yeah. College apps are going well. And I should be admitted to northeastern university. NOT northwestern university, but north EASTERN University. And I will get a full tuition scholarship. And I should attend. I don’t want to count my eggs before they have hatched, but it’s extremely likely. They released some a couple days ago, and I didn’t hear back. But looking at who they accepted my stats cream most of theirs. We’ll see :| I just keep on doubting about northeastern, but I"m fairly sure I got accepted. BLAARGH, only a month left!!
It is
1) Far away from home. I mean, even going to Davis and being a couple hours away would achieve it, and although I would like to think I appreciate my parents when not raging at them on tl, having some distance is nice.

2) A reasonable college. Not the best ranked, but it’s a relatively good school. I’d be happy going. Programs look good, professors are good.

3) In Boston. So much stuff in Boston? If I wanted to take Korean classes, I could do that. If I wanted to associate with friends from highschool at times, I could do that. If I wanted to go to MLG providence, I could do that. If I wanted to go to NYC for the first time it is a long way, but is feasible.
4) Has good placement. My god their placements are good.

5) A lot of CS major options. It’s easy to transfer from CS  engineering  CS  L&S should I really decide so.

6) I’m not sure what major to choose. Whether to do something harder CS, or do an EE or ECE degree. Or do do something like BS/IS or blargh. There are a lot of options to consider!!
7) Cheap. Full tuition .. only cost of living, which is high, but without tuition is very affordable.


UK…

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So yeah. As I predicted a while back, I don’t really love korea per se. I like it for its different culture, viewpoint, and its “strangeness” when looked at by a stranger like myself. However, since my trip to the UK, I’ve really wanted to return. And am really interested in the differences over the pond. Anyways, just thought I’d note this. I really just want to travel to ALL THE PLACES!
I miss the UK

Also, I have my 18th birthday soon. I also have to buy some prep books for AP tests on Amazon.

Which brings me to a couple more points...

What are some good $7-10 purchases on amazon? Need to get the free shipping.

What are good, practical items you guys have, use a lot, and you think would be useful in college? I don't have a ton of stuff besides a computer/bike/storage, so name it

Probably will pick up another pocket knife, but it's not that super usfeul tbh. $40 for knife is a ripoff, but I don't care :D

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RedJustice
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1004 Posts
February 26 2012 07:31 GMT
#2
Bring lamps cause room lights are always shitty.

Also, nyc is only a 4 hour bus ride and costs all of $8. (Maybe long to some people but doesn't seem that bad to me.) Definitely go.
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-26 07:37:18
February 26 2012 07:37 GMT
#3
Power strip, scissors, tape, stapler.
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
javy_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1677 Posts
February 26 2012 07:43 GMT
#4
On February 26 2012 16:04 Froadac wrote:

Which brings me to a couple more points...

What are some good $7-10 purchases on amazon? Need to get the free shipping.


http://slickdeals.net/slickfillers/
♪~( ̄。 ̄)
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-26 08:08:10
February 26 2012 08:06 GMT
#5
On February 26 2012 16:31 RedJustice wrote:
Bring lamps cause room lights are always shitty.

Also, nyc is only a 4 hour bus ride and costs all of $8. (Maybe long to some people but doesn't seem that bad to me.) Definitely go.

Ugh. I hate not being far east coast
Pittsburgh -> NYC is $35 7hr bus ride T.T

Also, @OP: if you get a student id/email address soon, you can register for Amazon Student which gives you a free Prime subscription (=free 2day shipping on like half their stuff) for 6 months or something :D
:)
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
February 26 2012 08:28 GMT
#6
if you're deciding between CS and EE, major in CS and consider a EE minor... maybe.
Hardware is dying.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
February 26 2012 09:12 GMT
#7
I miss California more and more the longer it's been since I left it about 7 years ago.

Boston's not bad but Cali is nice lol
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
Messi
Profile Joined September 2011
United States212 Posts
February 26 2012 14:59 GMT
#8
you must be smart :D Im also waiting for my admission for college.
but it kinda looks bad but oh well, thats how i did in high schoool..
Anyway good luck!
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
February 26 2012 18:51 GMT
#9
Javy is a boss. :D

I know about amazon student, I'm just sort of trying to save it until I"ll use it more.

@haji, thanks. I've heard things in both directions, both that CS is an invented degree, a harder engineerign degree is better, and that EE is just dying
EternaLLegacy
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States410 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-26 21:51:42
February 26 2012 21:49 GMT
#10
On February 26 2012 17:28 thedeadhaji wrote:
if you're deciding between CS and EE, major in CS and consider a EE minor... maybe.
Hardware is dying.


No offense, but you really have no idea what you're talking about. EE is a field with declining enrollment and increasing demand. EEs also do not just do hardware, and given the switchover from analog to digital equipment in many sectors, EEs find themselves doing a lot more programming than even 10 years ago. I don't have any problem with the CS major, but if you simply look at supply and demand and job listings you'll find that EE is where its at.

Ultimately, it all boils down to whatever appeals more to you, cause you won't do bad in either field.

Not to mention that EE includes at least 5 subfields, and more if you lump computer engineering into EE which some schools do:
-Electromagnetics
-Communciations (my area)
-Power
-Electronics
-Controls/DSP

And each of those fields has an enormous variety of specializations. If you're more software inclined you can go more communications/controls/DSP, and if you're more hardware you can go more EM/power/electronics. However, there's plenty of software and hardware design in all fields.

Edit:

Oh and I'd like to add, you should do the hardest major possible, because that's going to demonstrate to employers that you can handle harder work and more difficult problems than someone in an easier major. CS can be hard, but EE is extremely hard. While it depends on your college, all things being equal EE is going to be a harder degree.
Statists gonna State.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
February 27 2012 01:44 GMT
#11
Probably. I am of the opinion a good major should be quantitative (job wise) but as to EE vs CS, I think "difficulty" is marginal.
EternaLLegacy
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States410 Posts
February 27 2012 05:15 GMT
#12
On February 27 2012 10:44 Froadac wrote:
Probably. I am of the opinion a good major should be quantitative (job wise) but as to EE vs CS, I think "difficulty" is marginal.


It's definitely dependent on your school. Don't base it off of stupid rankings. Talk to people in those majors at the school. If you get the opportunity, ask employers who might be on campus for job fairs or the like what they find more impressive/useful/in demand.
Statists gonna State.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
February 27 2012 05:35 GMT
#13
On February 27 2012 14:15 EternaLLegacy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 10:44 Froadac wrote:
Probably. I am of the opinion a good major should be quantitative (job wise) but as to EE vs CS, I think "difficulty" is marginal.


It's definitely dependent on your school. Don't base it off of stupid rankings. Talk to people in those majors at the school. If you get the opportunity, ask employers who might be on campus for job fairs or the like what they find more impressive/useful/in demand.

In discussion with an EE and CS major at UCLA, the EE major has mroe offers, the CS has fewer better paying ones.
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
February 27 2012 15:51 GMT
#14
Both ECE and CS have great job prospects (even in this economic recession crap we're in). Just because I'm an engineer (not ECE, however), I'm going to recommend ECE.

One advice you should hold firmly in your brain is that no matter how good the general job prospects look, you have to try really hard to stay on top. ECE/CS are going to be one of the toughest undergrad programs in both material difficulty and time commitment. You'll need to be diligent and open-minded. You'll need to manage your time so that you get your shit done, understand most of what's going on, and still have time to chill with buddies to relieve some stress.

Also, regarding job prospects... don't talk with students that are looking for jobs, talk to people with actual jobs. Prospects != placements. It's not hard to boast about studying in a field with great job prospects, but how many actually make it? It's like saying life sciences are great because you can become doctors and specialized surgeons - but in reality, chances are that most of them will not get there.
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Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
February 27 2012 16:04 GMT
#15
On February 28 2012 00:51 OpticalShot wrote:
Both ECE and CS have great job prospects (even in this economic recession crap we're in). Just because I'm an engineer (not ECE, however), I'm going to recommend ECE.

One advice you should hold firmly in your brain is that no matter how good the general job prospects look, you have to try really hard to stay on top. ECE/CS are going to be one of the toughest undergrad programs in both material difficulty and time commitment. You'll need to be diligent and open-minded. You'll need to manage your time so that you get your shit done, understand most of what's going on, and still have time to chill with buddies to relieve some stress.

Also, regarding job prospects... don't talk with students that are looking for jobs, talk to people with actual jobs. Prospects != placements. It's not hard to boast about studying in a field with great job prospects, but how many actually make it? It's like saying life sciences are great because you can become doctors and specialized surgeons - but in reality, chances are that most of them will not get there.

The CS guy is in low level Management at microsoft out of college :O

EE guy took a job for General Electric in the city I lived in, they both graduated last year.
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
February 27 2012 16:21 GMT
#16
On February 28 2012 01:04 Froadac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 00:51 OpticalShot wrote:
Both ECE and CS have great job prospects (even in this economic recession crap we're in). Just because I'm an engineer (not ECE, however), I'm going to recommend ECE.

One advice you should hold firmly in your brain is that no matter how good the general job prospects look, you have to try really hard to stay on top. ECE/CS are going to be one of the toughest undergrad programs in both material difficulty and time commitment. You'll need to be diligent and open-minded. You'll need to manage your time so that you get your shit done, understand most of what's going on, and still have time to chill with buddies to relieve some stress.

Also, regarding job prospects... don't talk with students that are looking for jobs, talk to people with actual jobs. Prospects != placements. It's not hard to boast about studying in a field with great job prospects, but how many actually make it? It's like saying life sciences are great because you can become doctors and specialized surgeons - but in reality, chances are that most of them will not get there.

The CS guy is in low level Management at microsoft out of college :O

EE guy took a job for General Electric in the city I lived in, they both graduated last year.

Well, I must say, Microsoft eh... probably well-paying haha. I'm not an expert on CS-related jobs, but I do know that Microsoft/Google/Facebook (or other big names you can think of) hire quite a few new employees with excellent starting salaries. A colleague of mine who graduated from ECE in the same year as me got a Google job, and is making slightly over 2x my salary (I believe she's making something like 120k). So yes, super cool right?

Then I also know a few of my friends who graduated from CS who's done a couple of low-pay / internship / volunteering (free) start-up kind of jobs in the past ~8 months (since graduation in 2011) because they have a hard time finding a permanent position.

It's hard to say definitively - there are statistics to give you a general picture, but you should not take them as the final word in terms of your career choices. Maybe, by the time you graduate, the world will be in better financial shape and you won't have to worry too much about finding a good placement.

Hehehe =) I'm just a little bitter from how tough it was for me to get a job during this global economic crisis bullshit.
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 16:45:27
February 27 2012 16:37 GMT
#17
On February 27 2012 06:49 EternaLLegacy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 17:28 thedeadhaji wrote:
if you're deciding between CS and EE, major in CS and consider a EE minor... maybe.
Hardware is dying.


No offense, but you really have no idea what you're talking about. EE is a field with declining enrollment and increasing demand. EEs also do not just do hardware, and given the switchover from analog to digital equipment in many sectors, EEs find themselves doing a lot more programming than even 10 years ago. I don't have any problem with the CS major, but if you simply look at supply and demand and job listings you'll find that EE is where its at.

Ultimately, it all boils down to whatever appeals more to you, cause you won't do bad in either field.

Not to mention that EE includes at least 5 subfields, and more if you lump computer engineering into EE which some schools do:
-Electromagnetics
-Communciations (my area)
-Power
-Electronics
-Controls/DSP

And each of those fields has an enormous variety of specializations. If you're more software inclined you can go more communications/controls/DSP, and if you're more hardware you can go more EM/power/electronics. However, there's plenty of software and hardware design in all fields.

Edit:

Oh and I'd like to add, you should do the hardest major possible, because that's going to demonstrate to employers that you can handle harder work and more difficult problems than someone in an easier major. CS can be hard, but EE is extremely hard. While it depends on your college, all things being equal EE is going to be a harder degree.


Everything you said is true and I won't refute that. But I work in Silicon Valley, and hardware is dying. Ask the industry vets who've done this for decades. They'll tell you themselves that hardware is dying. It's being commoditized rapidly. As hardware companies shut their doors due to overseas competition, the labor market is flooded with guys with plenty of industry experience who've just been laid off.

edit: now that I think about it, maybe the east coast would be better for EE jobs, and the west for CS jobs. I feel that the old east coast hardware powerhouses like GE are doing better than those over here like HP/Cisco/etc, while software is utterly out of control here.
Livelovedie
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States492 Posts
February 27 2012 22:48 GMT
#18
I also applied to Northeastern and will probably get in. I think its going to be too much money and I will probably get into a cheaper, better school though. Nonetheless l was impressed with the school and the CO-OP program and wish you well in your college endeavors.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
February 28 2012 01:12 GMT
#19
On February 28 2012 07:48 Livelovedie wrote:
I also applied to Northeastern and will probably get in. I think its going to be too much money and I will probably get into a cheaper, better school though. Nonetheless l was impressed with the school and the CO-OP program and wish you well in your college endeavors.

Thanks. No way in hell I'd be going if I didn't get full tuition for national merit!
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