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On February 25 2012 14:14 Grohg wrote:I actually had a very similar situation during my 2nd year of college where I had a class where I didn't perform better than most other people on the first of 3 tests and it irritated me to no end. I wasn't used to it but it was one of the most motivating things that I used to improve my studying. I agree with the idea of getting a study group together. The reason isn't because you need other people to teach it to you but that you have others to explain your thought process to and helping them find mistakes in their logic. This is important because you approach the problem differently than if you were simply solving it for an answer. Teaching people is one of the most effective ways of committing information to memory. It provides the repetition needed to encode information correctly and it activates various parts of the brain that you don't normally use when studying by yourself. The reason behind this is the fact that a teacher must not only have the raw information to present but understand how to logically convey the data and methodology. Explaining a process is much more engaging than trying to soak in facts and thus you will actually learn the material better. In a group built around studying, you should have plenty of opportunities to explain things. When you are in need of someone to help you out, you not only have peers to guide you but you help them understand the material in a more concrete fashion as well. Don't beat yourself up. Set a goal and work towards it...everyone gets a kick in the gut sometimes. For someone who seems to care a lot about it, you now have a reason to strive for better. High school is autopilot all the way through, it's good to have something that challenges you. You've got 4 years of a challenge and more after that if you want  .
Let's hope for 5, at least!
Yeah, I do agree with all your points about forming a study group... we'll see if I manage to follow through. It's generally not my style because I like to go it alone (in almost everything, I don't like team games of any kind, prefer soloing in MMO's, that sorta stuff) but I know it's not always the best option.
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Who would you rather hire? Some guy with a 4.0 and nothing else to show, or some guy with a 3.0 average with industry experience, and multiple impressive projects to show he can apply his knowledge and skillset effectively?
the person with 4.0 will get a shit ton of grants $$$ for grad school so grades are worth something if you stay academia
experience will def land a job faster than gpa for sure when it comes to a bachelors though, i think entry level jobs (ie easy stuff) need 1 or 2 years lab experience for bachelors for my mbb degree lol
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Chill out dude, highschool kids in east asia commit suicide cuz of school. Just keep practising your math
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On February 25 2012 16:22 askTeivospy wrote:Show nested quote +
Who would you rather hire? Some guy with a 4.0 and nothing else to show, or some guy with a 3.0 average with industry experience, and multiple impressive projects to show he can apply his knowledge and skillset effectively?
the person with 4.0 will get a shit ton of grants $$$ for grad school so grades are worth something if you stay academia experience will def land a job faster than gpa for sure when it comes to a bachelors though, i think entry level jobs (ie easy stuff) need 1 or 2 years lab experience for bachelors for my mbb degree lol
I was planning on staying in academia until I got my masters, work for a few years, and then go somewhere for a Ph.D. I'm actually not sure what would be more important, my undergrad/grad grades or m work experience...?
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I know we all make mistakes, but I seriously can't write this one off. I went to every lecture. I sat in the front row and payed attention. I felt like I had a good understanding of the material, I blazed through the weekly homework assignments and aced two practice exams. I have never had a history of nervousness on tests. I took my time and checked my work. I studied for hours and attended review sessions. I literally cannot think of any better way to prepare for a test, and experience has shown that these methods all reliably result in solid grades for me.
So, you learned everything the class was about? Then I fail to see the problem 
The knowledge is valuable and a number is just a number.
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On February 26 2012 06:00 Starparty wrote:Show nested quote +I know we all make mistakes, but I seriously can't write this one off. I went to every lecture. I sat in the front row and payed attention. I felt like I had a good understanding of the material, I blazed through the weekly homework assignments and aced two practice exams. I have never had a history of nervousness on tests. I took my time and checked my work. I studied for hours and attended review sessions. I literally cannot think of any better way to prepare for a test, and experience has shown that these methods all reliably result in solid grades for me. So, you learned everything the class was about? Then I fail to see the problem The knowledge is valuable and a number is just a number.
How optimistic
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Welcome to academic life. You set goals and sometimes you meet them, sometimes you don't. I know it sucks, but if a road is closed to you, you just have to put it behind you and seek a new path. By the sound of it, you really have something you're working towards so just keep at it man. I'm sure you'll get there eventually. In the wise words of Dr Kelso, nothing in this world that's worth having comes easy.
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On February 25 2012 07:13 UmiNotsuki wrote:
I know we all make mistakes, but I seriously can't write this one off. I went to every lecture. I sat in the front row and payed attention. I felt like I had a good understanding of the material, I blazed through the weekly homework assignments and aced two practice exams. I have never had a history of nervousness on tests. I took my time and checked my work. I studied for hours and attended review sessions. I literally cannot think of any better way to prepare for a test, and experience has shown that these methods all reliably result in solid grades for me.
I think your problem is that you're studying too much for the test and not the material. Even if you didn't bad tests happen. We get on with life. I can't tell you the number of times I've helped a classmate study for a test only to have them score higher than me. What matters in the end is that you understand the material and can apply it to your overall major.
Chemistry and calculus are hard. You need to study consistently every day for at least an hour to really tackle the concepts.
I'll also advise this: if bad tests bother you this much then spend more time studying and less time blogging about it.
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On February 26 2012 08:21 Servius_Fulvius wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 07:13 UmiNotsuki wrote:
I know we all make mistakes, but I seriously can't write this one off. I went to every lecture. I sat in the front row and payed attention. I felt like I had a good understanding of the material, I blazed through the weekly homework assignments and aced two practice exams. I have never had a history of nervousness on tests. I took my time and checked my work. I studied for hours and attended review sessions. I literally cannot think of any better way to prepare for a test, and experience has shown that these methods all reliably result in solid grades for me. I think your problem is that you're studying too much for the test and not the material. Even if you didn't bad tests happen. We get on with life. I can't tell you the number of times I've helped a classmate study for a test only to have them score higher than me. What matters in the end is that you understand the material and can apply it to your overall major. Chemistry and calculus are hard. You need to study consistently every day for at least an hour to really tackle the concepts. I'll also advise this: if bad tests bother you this much then spend more time studying and less time blogging about it.
Haha, it's funny that you say I'm studying too much and then tell me to study more. I fully understand that the point of that first sentence was actually that I was studying the wrong way and not too much, just made me chuckle a bit
I know you're right that I could study more, but I honestly think studying every day would burn me out quite quickly. I HATED high school with a passion, and I blame that partially on the fact that my schedule was literally the same thing every day, five days a week. I much prefer to mix things up. I suppose that's nitpicking on the idea behind your post, but scheduling it all... just doesn't sound pleasant. I do love being productive but only when I choose to, instead of making myself do it.
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This remind me of the time I was gonna help a mate in SC2, and I dropped a game to a mid diamond player.
Life not really the same after that, and you're right, really disheartening. I feel you bro.
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