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TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
February 19 2012 01:09 GMT
#21
MVP > col .... so idk how... what.. .??????

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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
February 19 2012 01:10 GMT
#22
On February 19 2012 08:55 Northern_iight wrote:
well to be honest no foreign teams have any achievements to show ever since koreans started to attend foreign tournaments. But having players with potential still makes a team look/and is dangerous.
this this line up I want to see complexity play a team league without MVP. Minigun has some really exciting games last time against empire. Hope I see more of that in the future.

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Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-19 01:22:33
February 19 2012 01:18 GMT
#23
On February 19 2012 09:39 Vul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 08:35 farvacola wrote:
On February 19 2012 08:31 hunts wrote:
On February 19 2012 08:22 PiPoGevy wrote:
On February 19 2012 08:18 hunts wrote:
On February 19 2012 08:15 PiPoGevy wrote:
On February 19 2012 08:07 reki- wrote:
Sorry but other than killer and heart i don't see anyone particularly dangerous or MLG/tournament winning material : (


On February 19 2012 08:08 hunts wrote:
Complexity is not scary their foreign players aren't even good by foreigner standards.. MVP however is now very scary with the addition of nada, since thru the partnership this is essentially MVP getting the players but COL paying for it and getting the tag.


Give the team abit of hope yeah, why everyone so negative all the time


I tried to be hopeful for complexity, I was a huge fan of their WoW division back when MLG had WoW. But I've been severely dissapointed with everything they've done in SC2, and the level of players they've picked up. I really can't see them accomplishing much, and this korean pickup feels like a last ditch effort at going "hey guys we just bought some actual players, please pay attention to us!" But, I do hope nada does very well, he's just too awesome.

Minigun has taken out Violet and Beastyqt
QXC has taken out many top Korean players
Killer is making a comeback
NaDa just needs to find his game,
Heart took out Bomber

How is that not an achievement?


They have just picked up nada heart and killer. I don't remember seeing minigun or QXC in any tournamennt in the past 6 or so months. And as I said, but goswser seems to have not read since he wants to defend his team (understandable, though reading is nice) I was a big fan of complexity in wow, so I want them to do well and not suck. I've just been extremely dissapointed with basically everything they've done in SC2, with the way they chose to recruit lower level players and hope to make them good, but not being able to do so. Anyway I hope the new korean players do well, and maybe they'll teach their foreign players to improve as well.

Well at the very least I know QXC played at an IEM event, and its pretty much a uniform opinion of anyone who follows foreigners that once out of school and full time he will be taking out Code S'ers left and right. Haters gonna hate bro.


I've never heard anyone say that outside of like the QXC fanclub

Edit: I think Nada, Heart and Killer are great and I don't have anything against QXC, but I don't see why anyone would think he's going to be Code S level.


The last time he practiced in Korea he beat gumiho in team league and all killed IM.
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Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
February 19 2012 01:20 GMT
#24
qxc is committing to eSports full time after graduating this spring. Fully expect the guy to win a major by end of this year.
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Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
February 19 2012 01:46 GMT
#25
Qxc probably has one of the highest potentials in the sc2 scene atm. He remains competitive with a minor amount of practice.
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10149 Posts
February 19 2012 02:05 GMT
#26
Sick. Now only if Destiny signs with this team ^.^
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Vul
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States685 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-19 02:15:05
February 19 2012 02:14 GMT
#27
Okay, so I see that some people do have high expectations for QXC and that's good. Like I said I don't have anything against him and hopefully he does perform well. I'm sure at the very least he'll get better, but people were saying similar things about Stephano being great but not practicing much, but his going full time hasn't had a really noticeable impact yet. So I wouldn't just take it for granted either.
Frostfire
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States419 Posts
February 19 2012 02:20 GMT
#28
NaDa will always be my favorite player. Gogo!
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44243 Posts
February 19 2012 03:03 GMT
#29
Complexity's foreigners are pretty good but not at the top of the list (Trimaster? Seriously? Only achievement was beating IdrA once), and the Koreans will hopefully make the team perform better.

MVP still >>>> Complexity, hands down.
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Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
February 19 2012 03:09 GMT
#30
Well.. Trimaster is just a one-hit wonder IMO.
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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13899 Posts
February 19 2012 03:35 GMT
#31
On February 19 2012 08:25 goswser wrote:
People who want to hate will ignore achievements and potential, and just spout whatever negative thoughts are first to come into their mind.



I can't think of another pro who would be better suited to say that.
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NonConGuy
Profile Joined October 2008
United States416 Posts
February 19 2012 04:09 GMT
#32
Complexity definitely got stronger, but I still think theyre still 2nd tier. I love the players on their team like Catz, Minigun, and QXC, but they don't get results compare to other teams. I'm still not sold that NaDa is that great.
Balgrog
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1221 Posts
February 19 2012 04:39 GMT
#33
On February 19 2012 09:39 Vul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 08:35 farvacola wrote:
On February 19 2012 08:31 hunts wrote:
On February 19 2012 08:22 PiPoGevy wrote:
On February 19 2012 08:18 hunts wrote:
On February 19 2012 08:15 PiPoGevy wrote:
On February 19 2012 08:07 reki- wrote:
Sorry but other than killer and heart i don't see anyone particularly dangerous or MLG/tournament winning material : (


On February 19 2012 08:08 hunts wrote:
Complexity is not scary their foreign players aren't even good by foreigner standards.. MVP however is now very scary with the addition of nada, since thru the partnership this is essentially MVP getting the players but COL paying for it and getting the tag.


Give the team abit of hope yeah, why everyone so negative all the time


I tried to be hopeful for complexity, I was a huge fan of their WoW division back when MLG had WoW. But I've been severely dissapointed with everything they've done in SC2, and the level of players they've picked up. I really can't see them accomplishing much, and this korean pickup feels like a last ditch effort at going "hey guys we just bought some actual players, please pay attention to us!" But, I do hope nada does very well, he's just too awesome.

Minigun has taken out Violet and Beastyqt
QXC has taken out many top Korean players
Killer is making a comeback
NaDa just needs to find his game,
Heart took out Bomber

How is that not an achievement?


They have just picked up nada heart and killer. I don't remember seeing minigun or QXC in any tournamennt in the past 6 or so months. And as I said, but goswser seems to have not read since he wants to defend his team (understandable, though reading is nice) I was a big fan of complexity in wow, so I want them to do well and not suck. I've just been extremely dissapointed with basically everything they've done in SC2, with the way they chose to recruit lower level players and hope to make them good, but not being able to do so. Anyway I hope the new korean players do well, and maybe they'll teach their foreign players to improve as well.

Well at the very least I know QXC played at an IEM event, and its pretty much a uniform opinion of anyone who follows foreigners that once out of school and full time he will be taking out Code S'ers left and right. Haters gonna hate bro.


I've never heard anyone say that outside of like the QXC fanclub

Edit: I think Nada, Heart and Killer are great and I don't have anything against QXC, but I don't see why anyone would think he's going to be Code S level.



QXC got an all kill in the GSTL, thats pretty huge, once he's done with school and can play full time, he will be very scary, also just a generally smart guy.
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hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
February 19 2012 04:47 GMT
#34
On February 19 2012 13:39 Balgrog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 09:39 Vul wrote:
On February 19 2012 08:35 farvacola wrote:
On February 19 2012 08:31 hunts wrote:
On February 19 2012 08:22 PiPoGevy wrote:
On February 19 2012 08:18 hunts wrote:
On February 19 2012 08:15 PiPoGevy wrote:
On February 19 2012 08:07 reki- wrote:
Sorry but other than killer and heart i don't see anyone particularly dangerous or MLG/tournament winning material : (


On February 19 2012 08:08 hunts wrote:
Complexity is not scary their foreign players aren't even good by foreigner standards.. MVP however is now very scary with the addition of nada, since thru the partnership this is essentially MVP getting the players but COL paying for it and getting the tag.


Give the team abit of hope yeah, why everyone so negative all the time


I tried to be hopeful for complexity, I was a huge fan of their WoW division back when MLG had WoW. But I've been severely dissapointed with everything they've done in SC2, and the level of players they've picked up. I really can't see them accomplishing much, and this korean pickup feels like a last ditch effort at going "hey guys we just bought some actual players, please pay attention to us!" But, I do hope nada does very well, he's just too awesome.

Minigun has taken out Violet and Beastyqt
QXC has taken out many top Korean players
Killer is making a comeback
NaDa just needs to find his game,
Heart took out Bomber

How is that not an achievement?


They have just picked up nada heart and killer. I don't remember seeing minigun or QXC in any tournamennt in the past 6 or so months. And as I said, but goswser seems to have not read since he wants to defend his team (understandable, though reading is nice) I was a big fan of complexity in wow, so I want them to do well and not suck. I've just been extremely dissapointed with basically everything they've done in SC2, with the way they chose to recruit lower level players and hope to make them good, but not being able to do so. Anyway I hope the new korean players do well, and maybe they'll teach their foreign players to improve as well.

Well at the very least I know QXC played at an IEM event, and its pretty much a uniform opinion of anyone who follows foreigners that once out of school and full time he will be taking out Code S'ers left and right. Haters gonna hate bro.


I've never heard anyone say that outside of like the QXC fanclub

Edit: I think Nada, Heart and Killer are great and I don't have anything against QXC, but I don't see why anyone would think he's going to be Code S level.



QXC got an all kill in the GSTL, thats pretty huge, once he's done with school and can play full time, he will be very scary, also just a generally smart guy.


It was vs B/C teamers, and his win vs MVP was a BO1 where he got lucky with a BO win.
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
February 19 2012 04:51 GMT
#35
coL starting to mean business!
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Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
February 19 2012 06:36 GMT
#36
On February 19 2012 13:47 hunts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 13:39 Balgrog wrote:
On February 19 2012 09:39 Vul wrote:
On February 19 2012 08:35 farvacola wrote:
On February 19 2012 08:31 hunts wrote:
On February 19 2012 08:22 PiPoGevy wrote:
On February 19 2012 08:18 hunts wrote:
On February 19 2012 08:15 PiPoGevy wrote:
On February 19 2012 08:07 reki- wrote:
Sorry but other than killer and heart i don't see anyone particularly dangerous or MLG/tournament winning material : (


On February 19 2012 08:08 hunts wrote:
Complexity is not scary their foreign players aren't even good by foreigner standards.. MVP however is now very scary with the addition of nada, since thru the partnership this is essentially MVP getting the players but COL paying for it and getting the tag.


Give the team abit of hope yeah, why everyone so negative all the time


I tried to be hopeful for complexity, I was a huge fan of their WoW division back when MLG had WoW. But I've been severely dissapointed with everything they've done in SC2, and the level of players they've picked up. I really can't see them accomplishing much, and this korean pickup feels like a last ditch effort at going "hey guys we just bought some actual players, please pay attention to us!" But, I do hope nada does very well, he's just too awesome.

Minigun has taken out Violet and Beastyqt
QXC has taken out many top Korean players
Killer is making a comeback
NaDa just needs to find his game,
Heart took out Bomber

How is that not an achievement?


They have just picked up nada heart and killer. I don't remember seeing minigun or QXC in any tournamennt in the past 6 or so months. And as I said, but goswser seems to have not read since he wants to defend his team (understandable, though reading is nice) I was a big fan of complexity in wow, so I want them to do well and not suck. I've just been extremely dissapointed with basically everything they've done in SC2, with the way they chose to recruit lower level players and hope to make them good, but not being able to do so. Anyway I hope the new korean players do well, and maybe they'll teach their foreign players to improve as well.

Well at the very least I know QXC played at an IEM event, and its pretty much a uniform opinion of anyone who follows foreigners that once out of school and full time he will be taking out Code S'ers left and right. Haters gonna hate bro.


I've never heard anyone say that outside of like the QXC fanclub

Edit: I think Nada, Heart and Killer are great and I don't have anything against QXC, but I don't see why anyone would think he's going to be Code S level.



QXC got an all kill in the GSTL, thats pretty huge, once he's done with school and can play full time, he will be very scary, also just a generally smart guy.


It was vs B/C teamers, and his win vs MVP was a BO1 where he got lucky with a BO win.

Are you implying that defeating full-time Korean B-teamers isn't a massive achievement for any foreigner? There is a grand total of one foreigner still in Code A, and he's not even western.
teamamerica
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States958 Posts
February 19 2012 10:34 GMT
#37
Heart's shown some sick results - TL Open, some CSN tourny, losing in HSC qualifiers to Sound (who got 2nd), and I used to love watching his stream. NaDa I want to believe in but his play hasn't been too inspiring in my recent memory and I don't remember Killer from recently. Mostly it's probably just my bias in wanting to believe in Heart.

As for coL's non-Koreans: Drewbies been showing decent results. Between his Korea time and just in general, he made it through the MLG NA qualifer (beating Artist along the way, although Artist slumping) and I still believe in QXC. Trimaster got known of his sick MLG run too.

I think coL is pretty good although I wouldn't put them ahead of Mouz, Empire, or Liquid. Liquid has 2 top koreans and Ret/Sheth always do decently, Empire has Violet, Kas, Happy/Beasty (and Ariesto who seems better every time I see him), and Mouz always does damage in team leagues. I'd put them with a team like what Reign was - good non koreans a korean heavy hitter in Heart (i.e. Artist) along with some other Koreans. I love EG too but, might just be my memory, their results in teamleague's haven't been too inspiring lately, esp compared to Mouz and Liquid.

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Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
February 19 2012 11:50 GMT
#38
On February 19 2012 19:34 teamamerica wrote:
Heart's shown some sick results - TL Open, some CSN tourny, losing in HSC qualifiers to Sound (who got 2nd), and I used to love watching his stream. NaDa I want to believe in but his play hasn't been too inspiring in my recent memory and I don't remember Killer from recently. Mostly it's probably just my bias in wanting to believe in Heart.

As for coL's non-Koreans: Drewbies been showing decent results. Between his Korea time and just in general, he made it through the MLG NA qualifer (beating Artist along the way, although Artist slumping) and I still believe in QXC. Trimaster got known of his sick MLG run too.

I think coL is pretty good although I wouldn't put them ahead of Mouz, Empire, or Liquid. Liquid has 2 top koreans and Ret/Sheth always do decently, Empire has Violet, Kas, Happy/Beasty (and Ariesto who seems better every time I see him), and Mouz always does damage in team leagues. I'd put them with a team like what Reign was - good non koreans a korean heavy hitter in Heart (i.e. Artist) along with some other Koreans. I love EG too but, might just be my memory, their results in teamleague's haven't been too inspiring lately, esp compared to Mouz and Liquid.


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