• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 17:47
CET 23:47
KST 07:47
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced15[BSL21] Ro.16 Group Stage (C->B->A->D)4Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win3
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4) BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win
Tourneys
RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14! StarCraft2.fi 15th Anniversary Cup Tenacious Turtle Tussle Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement Mutation # 501 Price of Progress Mutation # 500 Fright night
Brood War
General
Let's talk about Metropolis [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Foreign Brood War
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] RO16 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread EVE Corporation Path of Exile ZeroSpace Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Big Programming Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream? The Automated Ban List
Blogs
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
Physical Exertion During Gam…
TrAiDoS
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1731 users

immortal hellion drops? - Page 2

Blogs > hyunGGe
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 All
green.at
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Austria1459 Posts
February 04 2012 22:25 GMT
#21
On February 05 2012 05:36 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 05:24 green.at wrote:
On February 05 2012 05:06 hyunGGe wrote:
On February 05 2012 05:04 beg wrote:
repair is ridiculously expensive in a medivac. i dont know how expensive actually, but way too much for this to be good.


is it more expensive?


yes, way more in fact.


You should edit the liquipedia article :D they could always use the help of educated sirs such as yourself.


nah, i am a lazy student xD but i might actually do that at some point, strategy section is massively outdated (but who would've thought with a new game^^ ). And i dont contrbute at all around here, feeling guilty now TT

("if only there was some magical liquid that could erase bad memories" who ever gets that quote)
Inputting special characters into chat should no longer cause the game to crash.
Phyrful
Profile Joined July 2011
United States248 Posts
February 04 2012 22:41 GMT
#22
A huge edge of doing a drop is the unexpected nature of the drop. Shuffling around with a medivac while your hellions heal inside gives your opponent ample time to prepare, and you already lost the element of surprise. It's much better to load a fourth hellion and deal more damage while surprise is still on your side.
"It's a choose, not a perfumation"-Lina
Atreides
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2393 Posts
February 04 2012 22:49 GMT
#23
Well I think pretty clearly a 4th hellion is better. But the way natural 111 timings work out is you only have 3 hellions done when medivac pops. I do an opening with this a LOT, but I allways just take 2 marines with my 3 hellions because I think most of the time vs P and T who have decent early anti-air you don't want to risk losing the medivac. (particularly if you are going into banshee after so you can't make more. Its very important to keep alive.) However vs zerg who have only queens to shoot your medivac early two scv may be more valuable than 2 marines.

As to the repair costs, I have done this before and it didn't feel like it was costing extra and I was pretty sure bug has been fixed for some time. But I have not rigorously checked.
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
February 04 2012 22:49 GMT
#24
I'd make a Liquidpedia entry about it.
I think esports is pretty nice.
Schmieds
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States312 Posts
February 04 2012 23:44 GMT
#25
On February 05 2012 05:48 zOula... wrote:
It would be better to just drop 4 hellions instead of 3...let them do their damage and then pick them back up and try to fly home. If they are injured you can just repair them when you get home.

edit: oh yeah incredibly misleading thread title lol


It takes less time to build three and three Hellion shots kill one worker.
8
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
February 04 2012 23:55 GMT
#26
On February 05 2012 08:44 Schmieds wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 05:48 zOula... wrote:
It would be better to just drop 4 hellions instead of 3...let them do their damage and then pick them back up and try to fly home. If they are injured you can just repair them when you get home.

edit: oh yeah incredibly misleading thread title lol


It takes less time to build three and three Hellion shots kill one worker.

Plus you can drop again much faster than having to go home or w.e
If the repair cost is normal in medivacs now, this seems viable.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
courtpanda
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
866 Posts
February 05 2012 00:08 GMT
#27
i remember i saw qxc do this with viking drops. he had a viking and 2 scvs in a medivac and dropped the viking over and over again.
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3822 Posts
February 05 2012 00:22 GMT
#28
lol... I came in here thinking this was someone coming up with some sort of random ass 2v2 strat or something hahaha
aztrorisk
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States896 Posts
February 05 2012 02:59 GMT
#29
For example, fully repairing a unit which is 200 minerals and 200 gas will cost 50 minerals and 50 gas.


I think that this is too cheap. Should cost more. No wonder scv-thor rushes are so powerful and planetary fortresses takes forever to kill.
A lock that opens to many keys is a bad lock. A key that opens many locks is a master key.
TiTanIum_
Profile Joined August 2011
Brazil1335 Posts
February 05 2012 03:39 GMT
#30
On February 05 2012 04:49 TBone- wrote:
I thought this was patched?


What was patched is that SCVs can't repair themselves inside bunkers and medivacs. People would do a crazy bunker rush with only one SCV, Any time it was damaged, they would put it inside the bunker, repair itself and then repair the bunker or build more of them. Yes, literal auto-repair.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
February 05 2012 11:02 GMT
#31
On February 05 2012 11:59 aztrorisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
For example, fully repairing a unit which is 200 minerals and 200 gas will cost 50 minerals and 50 gas.


I think that this is too cheap. Should cost more. No wonder scv-thor rushes are so powerful and planetary fortresses takes forever to kill.


nice balance whinning bro. Can you enlight me about the last thor-rushes which worked at pro lvl. Last one was MMA-Naniwa at blizz cup but before ???
Zest fanboy.
Prev 1 2 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL: GosuLeague
22:00
S21: RO16 Round 4 of 5
ZZZero.O115
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
elazer 177
JuggernautJason130
PiGStarcraft38
CosmosSc2 35
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 405
ZZZero.O 115
Dota 2
syndereN739
League of Legends
C9.Mang0143
Counter-Strike
Foxcn150
Super Smash Bros
PPMD68
Other Games
Grubby6817
tarik_tv2864
Liquid`Hasu203
XaKoH 124
Livibee70
Chillindude25
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV115
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 21 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 42
• RyuSc2 26
• davetesta5
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki15
• Pr0nogo 4
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21854
League of Legends
• Doublelift3945
• TFBlade1404
Other Games
• imaqtpie2235
• WagamamaTV316
• Shiphtur80
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Monday
2h 14m
StarCraft2.fi
18h 14m
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
1d 1h
The PondCast
1d 11h
WardiTV 2025
1d 13h
StarCraft2.fi
1d 18h
WardiTV 2025
2 days
StarCraft2.fi
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
IPSL
3 days
Sziky vs JDConan
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
4 days
Classic vs TBD
herO vs Zoun
WardiTV 2025
4 days
IPSL
4 days
Tarson vs DragOn
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS3
RSL Revival: Season 3
Kuram Kup

Ongoing

IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
RSL Offline Finals
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.