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Damn it Singaporean education! - Page 3
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nekoconeco
Australia359 Posts
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theBALLS
Singapore2935 Posts
On January 31 2012 21:51 HaruRH wrote: well, the noose is the only entertaining show that singaporeans can produce... I actually just wrote an article about how horrible our local TV is and submitted it to ST. However as expected they don't have the balls to publish it. | ||
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Azera
3800 Posts
On January 31 2012 21:53 theBALLS wrote: I actually just wrote an article about how horrible our local TV is and submitted it to ST. However as expected they don't have the balls to publish it. Can you send it to me? I would love to read it. | ||
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
On January 31 2012 21:53 theBALLS wrote: I actually just wrote an article about how horrible our local TV is and submitted it to ST. However as expected they don't have the balls to publish it. all Mediacorp wants to do is to milk us all. By making dramas only, it appeals to the widest range of audiences and costs the least amount of capital compared to other stuff, such as games shows. Mediacorp just want to earn money lol | ||
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Azera
3800 Posts
On January 31 2012 21:59 HaruRH wrote: all Mediacorp wants to do is to milk us all. By making dramas only, it appeals to the widest range of audiences and costs the least amount of capital compared to other stuff, such as games shows. Mediacorp just want to earn money lol I can't believe all the new dramas that they have on Channel 8 / 5 now. It's so repetitive and if you actually pay attention, they're all rip-offs of each other! | ||
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Aando
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Biane
Australia645 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46516 Posts
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FractalsOnFire
Australia1756 Posts
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Mobius_1
United Kingdom2763 Posts
Of course, my one regret is that I didn't dedicate all that spare time back then to something useful like Brood War instead of playing FIFA all day long. | ||
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Cool Cat
United States1644 Posts
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nihoh
Australia978 Posts
Then pepper with references and findings and figures from papers from the databases suggested by previous posters? That's the easy way of churning out an essay/project, maybe harder for a 15 year old to see that.. | ||
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ElusoryX
Singapore2047 Posts
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Phayze
Canada2029 Posts
On January 31 2012 22:04 Aando wrote: I would have loved to be in a competitive class when I was growing up. The school system here is a fucking joke, sure it's free but still a joke. The teachers barely know what they teach and "You're not better than anyone else" is bashed into your skull until you believes it. I agree, I would love to have seen if that would have had any effect on my education growing up. I think I would have been much more academic if grades turned into a competition. It's not like I didnt do well in school it's just a neat thought as I definitely did some opportune slacking. I consistently prioritized certain aspects of each course to get the highest mark with the least amount of effort (Which ironically turns out to be exactly what you have to do in uni anyways...). | ||
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
The American system of public education, there's a responsibility to provide an adequate education to everyone. Some students might learn more, but there's an expected level of education going into colleges, and the colleges remedy deficiencies by having a required curriculum. The philosophy seems to be, make sure everyone has a reasonable opportunity for education in primary school. The smarter ones will naturally tend to do well. A lot of US presidents just tended to be the guys who were just easily good at everything, including sports, leaderships roles, and so on, and from my observations this seems to be the attitude that colleges take in caring about extracurricular activities. So then the US colleges recruit/accept your smart students through the admissions process. It's stressful for students, but overall there are enough good colleges that smart students will end up at a good one, even if it's not the one their looking for. And even if they don't, a smart student with some initiative will shine at a mediocre college and get into a good graduate school (there are many graduate students from state schools even at elite universities). Not all of the students will work out, but the US often has enough resources to accommodate them and let them pursue some other, perhaps more personally enriching (art? literature?) or useful (journalism? accounting?) degree. Competitive parents/states seem to want to mold super students. But maybe a lot of initiative and intelligence is something you're born with, and the job of the US college system is to find these diamonds in the rough, and the public school system is to give them a chance to shine while educating everyone with what an "educated person" should know. Personally, I think this over-competition is the result of people trying to manipulate the system to divert extra resources to themselves. This Singaporean system, these advanced courses don't really sound like they want to educate you so much as test you to see how you handle these courses. Of course the students that handle those well are statistically more likely to handle the next level. In an ideal system, with enough resources, all smart students will be identified and provided opportunity. There's no point in competing for it, or learning a subject that much earlier, if by the end of your Masters program everyone will have learned everything they need to learn for their field of research. A lot of my classmates in college, like me, went to public schools, and classes were pretty easy for us. So a lot of us learned more on our own, whether through college classes, contest projects, or just personal interest. Maybe our college chose us because we were the ones who felt like doing it. And at least for research, doing it for the sake of competition instead of personal interest means you're more likely to burn out and lose interest. But maybe in a competitive system you never hear about these "failures", and if you only have space for 100 chemists, who cares about the potential you wasted? --- Another thought, In other countries, education might be seen as an opportunity to improve your life. In the United States, businesses earn far more than PhDs, so being mediocre in school but having fantastic communication skills can be more lucrative than vice versa, so all that effort in school might turn out to be a waste of time. Even if you don't become a businessman, the amount of academic knowledge you need for a corporate job isn't that high, and there will be a lot then you learn on the job that you will never learn in school. Also, your success often depends on your ability to work well with other people, which might have been more to do with talking to classmates than studying. For example, there's been a steady increase in the gap between job openings for PhDs and the number of domestic PhDs (although I'm not sure if that's true after the crash). There have also been studies that getting a PhD on average lowers the amount of money you earn, because you spend 4+ years earning a minimal stipend. | ||
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stkblee
Singapore129 Posts
On January 31 2012 22:42 ElusoryX wrote: Enjoy studying, no matter how shit your projects are. I'm going into the army in 2 days time. No more SC2 (consistently) for two years Dont worry, I am in the army for 1 year, and I still can play SC2 everyday. Dont give up hope! To OP: I guess advice from me would be to draw from the many case studies to support your argument. My experience has been the more case studies (which can be wikied), the better. | ||
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Robinsa
Japan1333 Posts
On January 31 2012 21:08 Catch]22 wrote: Does it matter if its unreasonable? Its the way it is, thats it. Well Sweden is the opposite. Do nothing and get good grades. I think the future of Singapore is a lot brighter because of their proper education. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66365 Posts
and then UNIVERSITY LOLOLOL seriously just enjoy secondary school, it's the best period in your life | ||
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JMave
Singapore1806 Posts
On January 31 2012 22:42 ElusoryX wrote: Enjoy studying, no matter how shit your projects are. I'm going into the army in 2 days time. No more SC2 (consistently) for two years enjoy it man. even though you don't have that much time for yourself, home is home and work is work. you never bring work home. when you are outside, all the time there is yours and the only thing you have to worry about it going back. | ||
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Railxp
Hong Kong1313 Posts
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