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JMave
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Singapore1806 Posts
January 31 2012 14:28 GMT
#61
On January 31 2012 23:16 konadora wrote:
just wait until you get to junior college ROFL

and then UNIVERSITY LOLOLOL

seriously just enjoy secondary school, it's the best period in your life


second this man. im not sure about what secondary school is like now but it was the time of my life. maybe it was because i was in a neighbourhood school and competition wasn't that bad.
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IrT4nkz
Profile Joined May 2010
229 Posts
January 31 2012 14:34 GMT
#62
4 Months to ORD. Feeling lost now as to why the hell are we studying so much before NS. Those 2 years really wiped a large part of what I have already learnt, even in the field of study that I was taking in Polytechnic.

You will come to the same point as where we all are now. But it seems like schools are teaching more and more advanced topics to students at an earlier age. Good in a way but once you are out of NS, everyone is wiped clean.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
January 31 2012 14:37 GMT
#63
On January 31 2012 23:28 JMave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 23:16 konadora wrote:
just wait until you get to junior college ROFL

and then UNIVERSITY LOLOLOL

seriously just enjoy secondary school, it's the best period in your life


second this man. im not sure about what secondary school is like now but it was the time of my life. maybe it was because i was in a neighbourhood school and competition wasn't that bad.

neighbourhood schools are best schools, seriously

all that elitism is for shit, fuck the haters
POGGERS
Soleron
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1324 Posts
January 31 2012 14:40 GMT
#64
You might be learning a lot of content, but it's at such a low level of rigour you will have to relearn everything when you get to university (with proper grounding in calculus/formal maths in sciences, and with proper essay/research technique in arts)
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
January 31 2012 14:40 GMT
#65
On January 31 2012 21:36 Bobbias wrote:
As a canadian, nearly every school system is fucked up... Ours less than most, but i'd still say ours is garbage too, for different reasons.


Lol I would say Canadian high schools were so easy, no one was challenged at least where im from. And anyone that wanted to get into more than half the universities could. But then most just fail out first year and the university steals there moneys lol. University is a different story then high school though they actually have some expectations of you.
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hummingbird23
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway359 Posts
January 31 2012 14:47 GMT
#66
On January 31 2012 20:59 Azera wrote:
Argh I'm so frustrated with the education system here in Singapore. It's just so stressful and competitive. You also can't really "study ahead" because almost everybody else does the same thing, and for those that don't "study ahead" they just build a really strong foundation on the current topics being taught and so they are the ones that score above average.

Is this the same in Western countries? It just makes me feel so stressed out and angsty all the time. When you're 12 you take your first National Exam and you're immediately sorted out from average to American ( I kid of course :D ). You're sent to different schools that can be seen as a way of displaying your level of intelligence just by the uniform you wear. Then there's this whole deal with elitism for those that are in the top-tier schools.

I mean, when I was 13 I just took regular mechanical physics, learning about measurements and stuff like that, pretty basic right? However, I knew ex-school mates who were in the top-tier schools that were already doing thermal and wave physics. This just saddens me to know our academic capabilities are already predetermined at such a young age. Surely there are some 'later bloomers' that can't live up to their full potential because of their average and mediocre school?




Recently, I was tasked with a Science project that will make up 50% of my grade this term. The task is to pretend to be 'an active Singaporean who has just obtained [my] undergraduate degree in Nuclear Engineering from UC Berkeley, [I should] have my own views on [ using Nuclear energy in Singapore ] .' I have to back up my argument with proper research findings, expert opinions, documentaries, etc.

Is this too much to ask for from an 'average' 15 year old student? I have no idea what evidence I'am going to use other than from newspaper articles. I will also have to present my argument with ' a letter to a newspaper editor, blog, YouTube video, etc. '

Damn it!


Sounds like a pretty good project actually. The arguments that you'll be making are going to be of a distinctly non-technical nature. For starters, you could try to look up what types of reactors there are, their risks, what kind of waste they generate, the amount of land area required relative to their power output, and if they'll raise alarm in neighbouring countries (generation of weaponizable materials). You could also look up international treaties and what assistance a country can seek from international bodies on the peaceful use of nuclear energy. Pay particular attention to disposal of wastes, Singapore has a very limited capacity to dispose of wastes that remain highly dangerous for a long time.

I detest the mindset that locks a person into a path at age 12. The brain is highly plastic and children of all ages benefit from an enriching environment. Unfortunately, Lee Kuan Yew's ego and his hubris about his own intelligence blinded him to this.
Soleron
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1324 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-31 14:54:27
January 31 2012 14:53 GMT
#67
Also if you have nationally-set exams why are you worrying about a class grade?

Tell your teacher you're not doing it and that you'll spend all the time on past papers for the real thing.
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
January 31 2012 14:58 GMT
#68
How long do you get to do the assignment? If you get the whole term then no, only 50% is nothing at all for a project for the entire term. If you get 2 weeks then yeah that's kinda retarded, not unreasonable, just dumb that 50% of the grade is 5% of the term.

No, I wish US had the same system as the east though. US is you go to great schools if you're rich, if you're medium income you buy a house in a good district, and if you're poor you hope your school is good wherever you live. It's all broken up by where you own property except private schools, no placement exams until university.

Which, fucking, sucks. Forget graduating, you have absolutely terrible students wasting resources because they happen to live in a good school districts and no one is allowed to fail. Even if someone does math at a 3rd grade level, every year they move on to the next year with nothing to catch them until the SAT/ACT (which are both terrible as well, granted I haven't seen a good example of a college entrance exam yet so in comparison it's just average. Much better than China's system for example.) comes around and they flop.
theBALLS
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Singapore2935 Posts
January 31 2012 15:02 GMT
#69
On January 31 2012 21:54 Azera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 21:53 theBALLS wrote:
On January 31 2012 21:51 HaruRH wrote:
On January 31 2012 21:46 Ryukku wrote:
I have come to accept it =S. It was my defensive mechanism to fit in during school. If you speak properly / with an accent, you are the main target of bullying =(.

Better not turn on your TV right now, the noose is on. Horribad show i tell ya


well, the noose is the only entertaining show that singaporeans can produce...

I actually just wrote an article about how horrible our local TV is and submitted it to ST. However as expected they don't have the balls to publish it.


Can you send it to me? I would love to read it.

k thru PM
If you lose the stick, you'll always have theBALLS.
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
January 31 2012 15:04 GMT
#70
On January 31 2012 23:58 Count9 wrote:
How long do you get to do the assignment? If you get the whole term then no, only 50% is nothing at all for a project for the entire term. If you get 2 weeks then yeah that's kinda retarded, not unreasonable, just dumb that 50% of the grade is 5% of the term.

No, I wish US had the same system as the east though. US is you go to great schools if you're rich, if you're medium income you buy a house in a good district, and if you're poor you hope your school is good wherever you live. It's all broken up by where you own property except private schools, no placement exams until university.

Which, fucking, sucks. Forget graduating, you have absolutely terrible students wasting resources because they happen to live in a good school districts and no one is allowed to fail. Even if someone does math at a 3rd grade level, every year they move on to the next year with nothing to catch them until the SAT/ACT (which are both terrible as well, granted I haven't seen a good example of a college entrance exam yet so in comparison it's just average. Much better than China's system for example.) comes around and they flop.

A week.
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theBALLS
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Singapore2935 Posts
January 31 2012 15:04 GMT
#71
On January 31 2012 23:37 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 23:28 JMave wrote:
On January 31 2012 23:16 konadora wrote:
just wait until you get to junior college ROFL

and then UNIVERSITY LOLOLOL

seriously just enjoy secondary school, it's the best period in your life


second this man. im not sure about what secondary school is like now but it was the time of my life. maybe it was because i was in a neighbourhood school and competition wasn't that bad.

neighbourhood schools are best schools, seriously

all that elitism is for shit, fuck the haters



not all of us from "elite" schools are elitists, just so you know
If you lose the stick, you'll always have theBALLS.
theBALLS
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Singapore2935 Posts
January 31 2012 15:05 GMT
#72
On January 31 2012 23:34 IrT4nkz wrote:
4 Months to ORD. Feeling lost now as to why the hell are we studying so much before NS. Those 2 years really wiped a large part of what I have already learnt, even in the field of study that I was taking in Polytechnic.

You will come to the same point as where we all are now. But it seems like schools are teaching more and more advanced topics to students at an earlier age. Good in a way but once you are out of NS, everyone is wiped clean.

Bro, 1 month to ORD.

Can't remember SHIT.
If you lose the stick, you'll always have theBALLS.
Soleron
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1324 Posts
January 31 2012 15:08 GMT
#73


Can't remember SHIT.


Past. Papers.

Memorise how the steps they use to get to an answer for each problem type in science/maths. It will be the same for all questions they do.
theBALLS
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Singapore2935 Posts
January 31 2012 15:08 GMT
#74
On February 01 2012 00:08 Soleron wrote:
Show nested quote +


Can't remember SHIT.


Past. Papers.

Memorise how the steps they use to get to an answer for each problem type in science/maths. It will be the same for all questions they do.

Well its hardly gonna matter in uni :/
If you lose the stick, you'll always have theBALLS.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
January 31 2012 15:12 GMT
#75
On February 01 2012 00:04 theBALLS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 23:37 konadora wrote:
On January 31 2012 23:28 JMave wrote:
On January 31 2012 23:16 konadora wrote:
just wait until you get to junior college ROFL

and then UNIVERSITY LOLOLOL

seriously just enjoy secondary school, it's the best period in your life


second this man. im not sure about what secondary school is like now but it was the time of my life. maybe it was because i was in a neighbourhood school and competition wasn't that bad.

neighbourhood schools are best schools, seriously

all that elitism is for shit, fuck the haters



not all of us from "elite" schools are elitists, just so you know

lol i keed, i have friends from elite schools as well

its just that people get the "elitism" into their heads way too much
POGGERS
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
January 31 2012 15:15 GMT
#76
On February 01 2012 00:04 Azera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 23:58 Count9 wrote:
How long do you get to do the assignment? If you get the whole term then no, only 50% is nothing at all for a project for the entire term. If you get 2 weeks then yeah that's kinda retarded, not unreasonable, just dumb that 50% of the grade is 5% of the term.

No, I wish US had the same system as the east though. US is you go to great schools if you're rich, if you're medium income you buy a house in a good district, and if you're poor you hope your school is good wherever you live. It's all broken up by where you own property except private schools, no placement exams until university.

Which, fucking, sucks. Forget graduating, you have absolutely terrible students wasting resources because they happen to live in a good school districts and no one is allowed to fail. Even if someone does math at a 3rd grade level, every year they move on to the next year with nothing to catch them until the SAT/ACT (which are both terrible as well, granted I haven't seen a good example of a college entrance exam yet so in comparison it's just average. Much better than China's system for example.) comes around and they flop.

A week.

Oh loooooool, yeah that's bullshit. Guess the teacher really doesn't want to grade papers this term.
Soleron
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1324 Posts
January 31 2012 15:18 GMT
#77
On February 01 2012 00:08 theBALLS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 00:08 Soleron wrote:


Can't remember SHIT.


Past. Papers.

Memorise how the steps they use to get to an answer for each problem type in science/maths. It will be the same for all questions they do.

Well its hardly gonna matter in uni :/


Universities provide past papers and you can do exactly the same.

Unless you mean you aren't doing a science.
wbirdy
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Singapore335 Posts
January 31 2012 15:25 GMT
#78
OP, you're still young, enjoy secondary school while you can. 2 days away from enlisting into the army after 2 extremely tense and stressful JC years isn't exactly what I'm looking for, but I'm sucking it up because I can't escape it. You should do the same too.
become legendary
theBALLS
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Singapore2935 Posts
January 31 2012 15:27 GMT
#79
On February 01 2012 00:25 wbirdy wrote:
OP, you're still young, enjoy secondary school while you can. 2 days away from enlisting into the army after 2 extremely tense and stressful JC years isn't exactly what I'm looking for, but I'm sucking it up because I can't escape it. You should do the same too.

Bro.










OH ARGH DEE LOH.


In a month. :D
If you lose the stick, you'll always have theBALLS.
Coramoor
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada455 Posts
January 31 2012 15:46 GMT
#80
Some middle ground between Asian and Western culture would probably be ideal, because that sounds ridiculous, although complexity wise I really doubt it's actually that hard
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