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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-06 09:04:01
January 27 2012 01:14 GMT
#1


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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
January 27 2012 01:17 GMT
#2
I don't think you can really "botch" your move, especially if you've known the person for a while. Honestly I think you've just hung around too long and she no longer saw you as a boyfriend candidate :T

My sincerest condolences.
:)
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-27 01:22:48
January 27 2012 01:19 GMT
#3
Don't bring up the topic of a relationship up with her again. Trust me, she knows and once is enough. The ball is in her court. You bringing it up again, especially soon, will push her away. That's not to say you still have a chance, I don't know the exact situation, but you can only hurt your chances by bringing the topic up again.

edit: at least you came back a man.
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Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
January 27 2012 01:28 GMT
#4
Got a Torenhire thumbs up for not pussing out! :D

Sorry it didn't work out though, but at least you're not stuck in "what if I told her" land like 99% of the other TL Girl bloggers end up. ^^
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-27 01:29:54
January 27 2012 01:29 GMT
#5
Sorry to hear dude.



edit: [The Song] Might be wildly inappropriate, but don't give up. Stay strong.
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Cowpieguy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States97 Posts
January 27 2012 01:37 GMT
#6
I admire your courage, but I don't think you should have brought it up at all so directly. That never seems to work. The romance has to develop on its own. Friendship doesn't magically turn into romance just because you ask a question. The much harder thing to do is to make moves towards romance while hanging out, especially if both of you are as reserved as you indicated. Physical contact is probably the best way to do this. Small touches to let the person know you care. For example, you open the door for her and give her a small touch on the back as she goes through (not on or near her ass though). A touch on the arm if she says something funny. Things like that. If she seems to be happy about these things and starts responding in kind, then things are going well. Things should proceed until you kiss or hold hands intimately, and then you know she wants to be more than friends.

If, however, she tenses when you touch her or seems to be displeased, then she probably doesn't want to be more than friends. And that's why it's so hard to make this physical contact. It's a period of not knowing for you, and that's very scary. It's much easier to blurt out a question and get a yes or no. But in my experience, women never seem to like that, and like I said, I think that's because friendship doesn't turn into romance in one moment. Like you said, you developed feelings for her after spending more and more time with her. Popping a question like you did on her just gives her no room to manuever. You have to have the confidence to express your feelings for her in smaller ways and have the guts and patience for her to decide how she feels over time.

I hope this helps man. I've done what you did many a time and it's just never worked for me. Best wishes for happiness.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25555 Posts
January 27 2012 01:47 GMT
#7
Part of being manly is making mistakes and learning from it. You'll never really know how to 1 rax FE until you've lost to a 3 gate VR all-in with it, and you sir happened to lose to a 3 gate VR all-in. This happens to everyone at some point, and although you probably could have done it better, it was good you tried. It took courage. Good luck in your future stuff!
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Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
January 27 2012 02:01 GMT
#8
I can't help but wish you luck. TL is the right place for girl blogs. ^^
hazelynut
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2195 Posts
January 27 2012 02:05 GMT
#9
Okok so the friendzone doesn't actually exist - she's either interested in you or she isn't. You cannot salvage this situation. Basically leave it alone and work on your own shit for now.
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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
January 27 2012 02:06 GMT
#10
On January 27 2012 11:05 hazelynut wrote:
Okok so the friendzone doesn't actually exist - she's either interested in you or she isn't. You cannot salvage this situation. Basically leave it alone and work on your own shit for now.

...that's the friendzone.
:)
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
January 27 2012 02:12 GMT
#11
Arguing about friendzone with a girl is probably not a good plan lol.
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2394 Posts
January 27 2012 02:12 GMT
#12
On January 27 2012 11:06 synapse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 11:05 hazelynut wrote:
Okok so the friendzone doesn't actually exist - she's either interested in you or she isn't. You cannot salvage this situation. Basically leave it alone and work on your own shit for now.

...that's the friendzone.

But it's not a magical thing you end up in by waiting too long or by asking at the end of a dinner instead of at the start.

Which is what the word "friend zone" implies.
The original Bogus fan.
Detrimentally
Profile Joined June 2011
United States78 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-27 02:19:35
January 27 2012 02:18 GMT
#13
On January 27 2012 11:05 hazelynut wrote:
Okok so the friendzone doesn't actually exist - she's either interested in you or she isn't. You cannot salvage this situation. Basically leave it alone and work on your own shit for now.

You just contradicted yourself. Yes, the friend-zone exists and, sadly, it destroys many, many men.

EDIT to your above response: No, its something you get put in by either a lack of physical and/or emotional attraction as well as judgement made about how you act around her. If she doesn't have an intense physical attraction, you listen to her problems, etc, you are in the friendzone.
I say what I want to say and do what I want to do. There's no in between. People will either love you for it or hate you for it.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
January 27 2012 02:20 GMT
#14
you didnt fuck anything up she just doesnt like you
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caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-27 02:38:49
January 27 2012 02:24 GMT
#15
On January 27 2012 11:12 Turbovolver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 11:06 synapse wrote:
On January 27 2012 11:05 hazelynut wrote:
Okok so the friendzone doesn't actually exist - she's either interested in you or she isn't. You cannot salvage this situation. Basically leave it alone and work on your own shit for now.

...that's the friendzone.

But it's not a magical thing you end up in by waiting too long or by asking at the end of a dinner instead of at the start.

Which is what the word "friend zone" implies.



nah, it's just the friendzone. You don't always know when you bumble your way into that cursed forest, it's not like the border is clearly marked with big red signs and flashing lights.

Thing is though, once you end up in that forest, none of the paths lead back out, they just wind around and go into places like the Swamps of TryhardAwkward, The Briars of LemmeComplainAbouttheCompetition, The Frustrated Morass, or The Black Abyss of CantTakeNo....

@OP, just enjoy the friendzone and be a friend, or cut the contact down imo.

eh, and as a general bit of tactical advice, I know when you're watching a great game you see that amazing engagement and you're like I want to do THAT, then you gear up the whole game to do that push, and it fails miserably, and you wonder what you did wrong... but theres all sorts of stuff you sometimes need to do in advance of the push, like using tactics like err...harass, or getting a positional advantage, or forcing a tech switch where you'll have an advantage over your opponent, etc. and stuff first to soften up your opponent, so that when the push finally comes, it's really just a formality-- The push didn't decide the game, the game was decided earlier.

On January 27 2012 11:20 Divinek wrote:
you didnt fuck anything up she just doesnt like you


this also happens a lot too. nothing you can do about it, nothing you COULD have done about it. nothing to worry about.

On January 27 2012 11:12 Torenhire wrote:
Arguing about friendzone with a girl is probably not a good plan lol.


Straight path to the black abyss, or the swamps if she's nice.
Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
Keyboard Warrior
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1178 Posts
January 27 2012 02:58 GMT
#16
After dinner is ok. Saying it before dinner would have ruined your time.

DONT Skype to talk about it, dear lord. You have to discuss it in person. Dont rush it, there will be a perfect time for it. ask here to go to the park, something semi-intimate but not romantic, otherwise she will shut you down,

And although it is not encouiraged that you surrender, try to entertain the fact that she might not like you, and that is perfectly fine. Life goes on. For now, play your cards well.
Not your regular Keyboard Warrior ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
ziggurat
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada847 Posts
January 27 2012 03:13 GMT
#17
On January 27 2012 11:24 caradoc wrote:
eh, and as a general bit of tactical advice, I know when you're watching a great game you see that amazing engagement and you're like I want to do THAT, then you gear up the whole game to do that push, and it fails miserably, and you wonder what you did wrong... but theres all sorts of stuff you sometimes need to do in advance of the push, like using tactics like err...harass, or getting a positional advantage, or forcing a tech switch where you'll have an advantage over your opponent, etc. and stuff first to soften up your opponent, so that when the push finally comes, it's really just a formality-- The push didn't decide the game, the game was decided earlier.


Excellent advice. And a good analogy too.
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3822 Posts
January 27 2012 03:28 GMT
#18
On January 27 2012 11:20 Divinek wrote:
you didnt fuck anything up she just doesnt like you

This (although attraction is a fluid concept, rather than an arbitrary yes or no). Don't beat yourself up about this, and certainly don't obsess over this girl. DO use it as an opportunity to correct any glaring errors you made though, like not pulling qthe trigger sooner.
Bigtony
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1606 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-27 03:37:13
January 27 2012 03:36 GMT
#19
On January 27 2012 11:20 Divinek wrote:
you didnt fuck anything up she just doesnt like you


Agree ^

You probably could have been more direct (rather than 'casual suggesting' it), but if she's not into you that's it.

I also don't buy "the friend zone." It's just a bullshit thing made up by guys who don't get the woman they want. There are countless stories of friendships becoming romantic. Fuck, for like the past 2000 years that's how most non-arranged relationships came about. You didn't date anyone, you were just friends.

Not enough information about your friendship to give real advice though. How intimate is/was your relationship? Obviously not in the sexual meaning, just how close were you actually?
Push 2 Harder
ig0tfish
Profile Joined July 2009
United States345 Posts
January 27 2012 03:52 GMT
#20
You might want to stop hanging out with her then. Give her some space and let her realize that she dun goof'd and she'll come crawling right back to you.
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