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Worker Rush Part 6: At a Loss - Page 3

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HackBenjamin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1094 Posts
January 27 2012 17:07 GMT
#41
Missed ya Gheed, good blog as always
UmbraaeternuS
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile476 Posts
January 27 2012 18:24 GMT
#42
On January 20 2012 07:54 rebuffering wrote:
am i the only who thinks this is pointless? why are you playing sc2 if your doing this, this defeats the whole purpose of playing the game. Instead of trying to improve, you just sit there and learn nothing, while at the same time preventing another player from learning anything.



No, you aren't. I think so too.

Dude, the bronze social experiment might seem interesting and fun but ultimately you aren't learning shit from the game, and in the process, you're stopping a lot of bronze league players short of the learning process. Many bronze players must be new, and facing such a tactic ingame must be discouraging.
Level your MMR up and begin learning, bro.
I was once like you, making 3.5 minute mark zealot rushes to EVERYTHING.
Then I realized I had to learn something... And that changed my perspective and gameplay forever.
Now I cast, teach and play... All thanks to that silly decision of "wth, I'm not learning squat from this, even though it's super effective."

You should try it too.
therealwinters - Skype / @DrUmbra - Twitter // "There is nothing more cool than being proud of the things that you love" - Sean "Day[9]" Plott <3
Xiron
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1233 Posts
January 27 2012 21:41 GMT
#43
On January 28 2012 03:24 UmbraaeternuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 07:54 rebuffering wrote:
am i the only who thinks this is pointless? why are you playing sc2 if your doing this, this defeats the whole purpose of playing the game. Instead of trying to improve, you just sit there and learn nothing, while at the same time preventing another player from learning anything.



No, you aren't. I think so too.

Dude, the bronze social experiment might seem interesting and fun but ultimately you aren't learning shit from the game, and in the process, you're stopping a lot of bronze league players short of the learning process. Many bronze players must be new, and facing such a tactic ingame must be discouraging.
Level your MMR up and begin learning, bro.
I was once like you, making 3.5 minute mark zealot rushes to EVERYTHING.
Then I realized I had to learn something... And that changed my perspective and gameplay forever.
Now I cast, teach and play... All thanks to that silly decision of "wth, I'm not learning squat from this, even though it's super effective."

You should try it too.


In the end it's a game. A game's purpose is to have fun. If Gheed has fun doing what he does, there is no point for him to 'learn'.
"The way of life can be free and beautiful. But we have lost the way. " - Charlie Chaplin
netherh
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom333 Posts
January 27 2012 23:30 GMT
#44
I've been working my way up from bronze to gold over the last couple of months ~600 games total. I've only played 9 people more than once, nearly all on the same day. I've been worker rushed twice (by different people). I don't know why you expect the majority bronze people to know what to do the first time they come across it.

The first time this happened to me I won (no SCVs lost, all drones killed). The second time I lost (all SCVs lost, no drones killed). Both times I a-moved.

The first time I randomly clicked auto-repair, then panicked and a-moved again because my SCVs weren't attacking. The second time I just a-moved. So for me it appears that just a-moving will lose... some other parameter is required to ensure victory - from 2 data points, I can't extrapolate what. Given that it's happened twice, I don't care, so it's entirely possible a worker rush would kill me again.

As for ties - certain casters of popular videos (lagtv) don't know how that works - it's not hard to pick up misinformation. Or the guy's smarter than you give him credit for and was just trying to get you to leave. My money's on the latter.

Anyhoo... "when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you". Good luck getting out of bronze.
Gheed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States972 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 01:13:55
January 28 2012 01:10 GMT
#45
On January 28 2012 08:30 netherh wrote: So for me it appears that just a-moving will lose...


Nope. Make a mirror match versus a medium AI on Steppes of War. You will show up with your workers at the earliest possible time, and what will the computer do? It will attack move. How will that turn out? You will lose. There is no trickery I am executing; there is no skill involved. I lost to a guy who said it was his second match, and his history confirmed it. You only need the ability to a-click on the ground. There is no debate.

Edit: Also, I've played people 3, 4 times in a row. I've heard people say "I hate when I get worker rushed." This is happening and it's fairly commonplace. I got matched twice the other day against a fellow worker rusher.

Anybody defending these people is wrong, end of story.
Zombo Joe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada850 Posts
January 28 2012 22:44 GMT
#46
I think that's the best part.

If they just a-move they win.
I am Terranfying.
Aqo[il]
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Israel183 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-05 06:52:23
February 05 2012 06:50 GMT
#47
I'm so happy somebody linked me to this blog, I think what you're doing is great. Had a lot of fun reading and I'm looking forward to more entries in the future.

This blog, although humorous, brings up a serious point about people in low leagues. Like, sometimes I meet people who play Starcraft 2 and tell me they're "stuck in silver".
I'm not very good in SC2 myself, but I played some BW (as well as other RTSs) in the past and got to diamond in the first 30 matches on ladder in this game without even having basic knowledge on the level of "how much life does a marine have".

So I always had this naive assumption is that in lower leagues, people simply have bad mechanics - they lack hand speed, and knowledge of basic macro principles such as "build workers whenever you can" and "actively prioritize watching your bank and spending all your money". I thought that they're not necessarily stupid, they might just be uninformed, and not realize how RTS works. That if you just tell them this much, they'd get to at least plat in under two weeks.

Hell even my 13 year old sister, who's too scared to play Dead Space 2, managed to learn to macro up from 3 bases and micro vultures in BW good enough to destroy infinite speedzea effortlessly in just a few hours from a starting point of having trouble of moving the screen in BW, and all it took is me telling her to think about her own mistakes every time something goes wrong and then not repeat those mistakes when the same situation occurs.

But no. Apparently some people are really stupid. If what you're saying is true that you played the same people, worker rushed them, and they lost to it again and again, then I'm honestly looking forward to you worker rushing them again. And then again. And to see what they'd say about it.

If those people lack the basic brain function of checking the replay of a match lost (as if that's even necessary in this specific situation), thinking what should've been done differently, and then not repeating an incorrect course of action - and yet at the same time they play on a competitive 1v1 ladder in a game that defines clear winning conditions, then those people's process of thinking (or lack thereof) is a complete mystery that deserves to be uncovered publicly for the entertainment of bored netizens.

Keep it up.
Reavers. Lurkers. Vultures. Defilers. Corsairs. Vessels. Why did they remove all the cool units from SC2...?
Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
February 06 2012 11:49 GMT
#48
Something occured to me as I read this. How exactly does someone know that a Command Center can lift, and yet still have it on fire to a worker rush? The length of time between seeing the attack and reacting is insane.
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CaptainCrush
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States785 Posts
February 08 2012 18:21 GMT
#49
I saw this particular part of the blog this morning and then saw that you suggested to read the earlier parts first.... at first I scoffed at the overwhelmingly abundant collection of words and pictures, however, I reluctantly started the first one - I laughed my ass off! I read straight through until the end of this one and think it is probably the best blog I have ever read about a video game, and one of the better that I have ever read period.

Keep up the good work sir, your ambition and wit is unmatched.
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
February 10 2012 10:58 GMT
#50
This is the first time i read your blog. I had some good laughs, I must say. You're a great writer and the whole blog is very well made. I would have never guessed it would be so enjoyable to take your platinum fail frustrations out on the poor bronzies. You do realize that most of your opponents are 12-15 yo right? (especially the ones calling you a fag or a "nab, nob, knobe, etc) They don't get things not because they're inept or retarded, but because they're too young. So your public shaming of random newbies suddenly makes you look like an inconsiderate asshole who picks on little kids and then brags about it on his blog. This is just my own opinion, I've nothing against you(as i said earlier, i actually enjoyed reading this). But just for diversity's sake, I sure wish there was some way for the age of your opponents to be made public. Wouldn't that be a sight? And no, i'm not bronze. Ironically enough, i'm a platinum terran.
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
Maxtor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom273 Posts
February 22 2012 17:03 GMT
#51
Great write up as usual, i love your blog. I think something even more interesting would be a calm conversation with one of those people in the real world, their explanation would be something magical to behold. Also did you hear anything from the "ill sue you if you post this" guy?
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