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F*** you, GEMA. Grooveshark pulls out of Germany?!

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KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 12:06:56
January 18 2012 12:06 GMT
#1
Yep, thats right. Grooveshark pulls out of Germany and GEMA is to blame.
If you visit http://grooveshark.com/ from Germany you'll get this message:

http://i.imgur.com/fa98x.jpg

In short, it means that the operation costs are too high due to GEMA's money claims. It's the same reason many youtube videos are blocked.

Now after my last blog someone suggested that I'd use Grooveshark for my smartphone, too. It worked perfectly fine and thanks to -Kaiser-(which recommended me an awesome radio station) I could always get new songs that I'd look for on Grooveshark and listen to. It didn't even use up that much bandwith which meant I could listen to songs on there even on the train ride home.

And now GEMA comes in with this stupid shit. I hate it.
It's not even a big secret that these idiots are doing nothing good and only look to increase their own profit.
If you wanna read up on the topic a bit, I found this link(German) on reddit: http://www.musiker-online.de/Newsdetails.newsdetails.0.html?&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=267&tx_ttnews[backPid]=10&cHash=226c5da554
It's pretty well written and has a reliable source.

I don't get how people can stand this shit. Yea on my computer I can use a proxy to bypass this but on my Smartphone I can't, at least not without much stress I don't want to deal with. I want to have it easy and no problems. I don't want to use shitty proxies that make everything worse.

But yea, GEMA. A big fuck you to them.

/rant. -_- Gotta stick to radio stations again.

****
AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2594 Posts
January 18 2012 12:11 GMT
#2
That's awful news. My SC2 playlist was on Grooveshark, now I'm going to have to put one together using local files.

First Pandora, now this.
The frumious Bandersnatch
Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
January 18 2012 12:11 GMT
#3
Almost reminds me of some bills we have in the good old us of a right now.

Sorry.
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KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 12:16:21
January 18 2012 12:14 GMT
#4
On January 18 2012 21:11 Chargelot wrote:
Almost reminds me of some bills we have in the good old us of a right now.

Sorry.

Well the thing is that SOPA is actually dangerous because there could be(and there are) people believing that SOPA/PIPA is just doing good, and you actually have to explain them why its bad.

But telling someone "They call for too much money because they only care about money. Therefore, people have to stop doing business or start to cut edges because they simply can't pay that much money" isn't that complicated. Yet, no one really cares.
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
January 18 2012 12:15 GMT
#5
Yeah. Sad fact, GEMA simply sucks. I din't use Grooveshark myself but listen to a lot of music on Youtube (or used to), and GEMA is a royal pita.
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
January 18 2012 12:17 GMT
#6
I loved Grooveshark Damn!
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
iaretehnoob
Profile Joined June 2004
Sweden741 Posts
January 18 2012 12:21 GMT
#7
Fucking GEMA. Not much else to say.

Spotify obviously also doesn't work in Germany because of GEMA and music videos on youtube are only available because there are 100 versions of every song and they can't get them all blocked....
Br3ezy
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States720 Posts
January 18 2012 12:22 GMT
#8
hey at least you have spotify dont you?
Check out my guide to mechanics http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319876
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
January 18 2012 12:23 GMT
#9
On January 18 2012 21:22 Br3ezy wrote:
hey at least you have spotify dont you?

No, Grooveshark was our last hope. Everyone else already pulled out or didn't even try.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 12:27:29
January 18 2012 12:26 GMT
#10
On January 18 2012 21:22 Br3ezy wrote:
hey at least you have spotify dont you?

No :p

And without some proxy plugins for FF you can't even watch most of the interesting music vids on youtube.
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
January 18 2012 12:27 GMT
#11
when I saw this today I was like "fuck dis shit", but I don`t use the app on the phone, so it`s not that big of a deal. Hotspot shield lets me access grooveshark anyways, but that doesn`t justify all the bullshit the GEMA constantly pulls. First youtube now music streaming plattforms. As I understand it spotify also won`t come to germany, because GEMA wants too much money.
keep it deep! @zulison
lolmlg
Profile Joined November 2011
619 Posts
January 18 2012 12:30 GMT
#12
On January 18 2012 21:06 KeksX wrote:
It's not even a big secret that these idiots are doing nothing good and only look to increase their own profit.

Gee, it's almost as if companies are interested in making money.
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 12:38:52
January 18 2012 12:31 GMT
#13
On January 18 2012 21:30 lolmlg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 21:06 KeksX wrote:
It's not even a big secret that these idiots are doing nothing good and only look to increase their own profit.

Gee, it's almost as if companies are interested in making money.

GEMA is not a profit-oriented company! It's an association.

It's supposed to give money to bands, publishers and writers. Not to themselves.
For example, in 2008 only 60% of the "earned" money was given out to it's members. No word on the rest of the money, which would be something around 320 million €

No need to give this blog 1 star just because you don't know what GEMA is!
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 12:39:14
January 18 2012 12:39 GMT
#14
Use stealthy for FF/Chrome.
atm u can also still use the mobile grooveshark site
http://html5.grooveshark.com/

and yea GEMA fuckin sucks
beep boop
Greenpeez
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany21 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 12:44:20
January 18 2012 12:40 GMT
#15
On January 18 2012 21:23 KeksX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 21:22 Br3ezy wrote:
hey at least you have spotify dont you?

No, Grooveshark was our last hope. Everyone else already pulled out or didn't even try.


not 100% true, there is still simfy.de left which grooveshark even links to in their shutdown message.
but they dont have nearly as much artists as grooveshark and its mostly the stuff one can hear in charts/radio

sad day

edit:
On January 18 2012 21:39 7mk wrote:
atm u can also still use the mobile grooveshark site
http://html5.grooveshark.com/


wonder how long that one will be up
atmuh
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States246 Posts
January 18 2012 12:43 GMT
#16
why dont people just buy music
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 12:49:52
January 18 2012 12:45 GMT
#17
On January 18 2012 21:40 Greenpeez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 21:23 KeksX wrote:
On January 18 2012 21:22 Br3ezy wrote:
hey at least you have spotify dont you?

No, Grooveshark was our last hope. Everyone else already pulled out or didn't even try.


not 100% true, there is still simfy.de left which grooveshark even links to in their shutdown message.
but they dont have nearly as much artists as grooveshark and its mostly the stuff one can hear in charts/radio

sad day

edit: wonder how long the mobile site of grooveshark will be still up, which is posted above me

I didn't realize it was on the grooveshark page, I might try it out. But how long until simfy decides to shut down, either? From what I can see, it has even less songs than grooveshark, and grooveshark was also pretty limited. So... Not sure how it's going to survive!
I have to check it out when I come home, I don't think the mobile site is staying that much longer(for us).
It still doesn't justify the bullshit GEMA does.

@atmuh:
Thats what the GEMA is for. The GEMA will provide money to the artists so that we don't even have to buy the songs to make streaming sites profitable. The way GEMA works though is
a) not transparent
b) profit-oriented without looking to the artists firsts
c) as a result of b), way too expensive. Since the ones responsible for all this want a "fair share" for themselves.

And you know that GEMA makes irrational claims when everywhere else those services are still alive and legal(paying money to similar institutions/associations) but they only pull out of Germany.
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
January 18 2012 12:48 GMT
#18
On January 18 2012 21:43 atmuh wrote:
why dont people just buy music

they do. My vinyl collection is worth more than 5.000 Euro.
keep it deep! @zulison
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 12:59:32
January 18 2012 12:59 GMT
#19
On January 18 2012 21:43 atmuh wrote:
why dont people just buy music


Because that's not what this is about. Seriously, don't comment if you didn't bother to read and understand the problem at hand, especially if you're adding nothing but a snide remark.
Spekulatius
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2413 Posts
January 18 2012 13:09 GMT
#20
Nooooo Grooveshark.

I loved its simplicity, its lack of resource-hungriness (could easily run it as a background app) and its huge (albeit not totally complete) collection of music of all styles and times.

Seriously, Gema first ruined youtube for all Germans and now Grooveshark. What kind of alternative is there? Except for simfy?
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