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Broken Heart of a Fan (Nestea Spoiler)

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neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 21:53:56
December 14 2011 07:56 GMT
#1
I am heart broken.
This year has gone full circle with our zerg hero, Nestea.
During Season 1 of the GSL, nestea was awful at the game (as with most people playing at the time) and was quickly defeated early in the tournament...

Then something happened in season 2 onward..

At a time where ZvT and ZvP were hugely in favor of any race that wasn't zerg, Nestea spearheaded the potential of the Zerg with 3 GSL championships. He quickly became a household name and was someone all zerg players looked up to. He had amazing holds, inventive strategies, excellent decision making. Nestea could see the world of starcraft through his Nestea-vision and somehow would dominate through pure ingenuity.

But something has happened to Nestea lately.
From AOL to Blizzcon to GSL November...

Nestea v IMMVP: 20 broodlords no support
Nestea v Huk: 2394827847520 banelings into archons, AFK muta
Nestea v BboonBboong: creepless hydra attack, failed bling rush, fly muta into hydras

Nestea has displayed some really questionable plays. It should be noted that in most games, he was ahead of his opponents, but somehow just threw away his lead by doing ridiculous strategies/mistakes that nobody pass gold-league would do.

BlizzCup was absolutely devastating to watch for me as a Nestea fan

Nestea vs MMA: Making ultra/lings attacked into marine/tank
Nestea vs Polt: Run all mutalisk/banelings into corner to die
Nestea vs Leenock: Run drones into banelings

How much hurt can a fan endure?

I quickly find myself angry at Nestea more than feel sorry for him.
He wasn't outplayed by the opponent, his macro was spot on.
He was just **********! [mod edit]

There I said it!
Nestea has become *******. [mod edit]
His mindless plays are shitting all over fans.

Watching BlizzCon to BlizzCup has made me realize that Nestea is his own greatest opponent.

I can only hope that he gets over what ever the hell is driving him crazy these last few months over the winter break. But I'm not holding my breath any longer. This fan is jumping ship.






*
moo...for DRG
Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
December 14 2011 08:10 GMT
#2
A real fan sticks through the hardships.

i hope you see the error in your ways. Artosis would be disappointed.
aka ChillyGonzalo / GnozL
iamahydralisk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States813 Posts
December 14 2011 08:17 GMT
#3
I really hope you're kidding, OP. Saying things like "How much hurt can a fan endure?" and "His mindless plays are shitting all over fans." Sounds like you're taking this WAAAAYYYY too seriously if you're "hurt" by a player not doing very well. I have favorite players of my own (and favorite teams in other sports, too), but I'd never be emotionally damaged if they started underperforming.
"well if youre looking for long term, go safe, if you expect it to end either way, go risky. wow. just like sc2" - friend of mine when I asked him which girl to pick
rewired
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada630 Posts
December 14 2011 08:23 GMT
#4
Boohoo Nestea fans are hurting stick through it bud FruitDealer is still my favorite player and he's basically dissapeared. Nestea will make a come back soon enough and he's still in code s
The road isn't always straight.
Tortious_Tortoise
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States944 Posts
December 14 2011 08:36 GMT
#5
On December 14 2011 17:10 Fishgle wrote:
A real fan sticks through the hardships.

i hope you see the error in your ways. Artosis would be disappointed.


Jinro will be great again.
Stay with NesTea-- he will not disappoint.
Treating eSports as a social science since 2011; Credo: "The system is never wrong"-- Day9 Daily #400 Part 3
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
December 14 2011 08:41 GMT
#6
On December 14 2011 16:56 neoghaleon55 wrote:
How much hurt can a fan endure?

Ask any STX fan...

On December 14 2011 16:56 neoghaleon55 wrote:
This fan is jumping ship.

So you weren't a fan. You were a fair weather fan.
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
December 14 2011 08:47 GMT
#7
Being a fan is a conditional relationship.
He's not my brother, my sibling, my kid, my dog...
What he does directly affects the relationship.

If you have a friend who's consistently screws up for no good reason, I don't think he'd be on the top of your friendlist.
The problem with nestea seems to be that he has other things on his mind. I don't expect the guy to play perfect, but I do expect him to play better than a casual player on battle.net.
moo...for DRG
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
December 14 2011 08:51 GMT
#8
i too am quite surprised, the silliness of his mistakes is astounding...

He must be not resting well or something. (One tourny he mentioned how he got drunk the night before... that might have effects on him)

Maybe he's an emotional guy, and has to get in the zone. Maybe if he gets out of the zone he can mess up a lot. I remember back then he was like the perfect player... now he is just a strong macro player who keeps making a lot of silly micro moves.

For example, he almost never magic boxes Thors. I don't remember the last time he magic boxed mutas, he would just right click on the thors (unless he was click-A'ing across the map, in which case he would let his Mutas attack the thors and not realize it in time)
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
December 14 2011 08:56 GMT
#9
it's zergbong dude

you should've always expected this, just go watch some KT 2v2 vods lolol
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
monkeii
Profile Joined November 2011
United States56 Posts
December 14 2011 09:14 GMT
#10
Have faith in Jinro and NesTea. They will return!
FAITH BROTHERS!
Liquid`Jinro | LG-IMMvp | Yoshi Kirishima | Mill.Dayshi ~ <3
Suc
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1569 Posts
December 14 2011 09:56 GMT
#11
Yeah, you didn't know him as zergbong then.

On December 14 2011 17:41 thopol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 16:56 neoghaleon55 wrote:
This fan is jumping ship.

So you weren't a fan. You were a fair weather fan.

Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
December 14 2011 10:37 GMT
#12
On December 14 2011 17:41 thopol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 16:56 neoghaleon55 wrote:
How much hurt can a fan endure?

Ask any STX fan...


Or alternatively, ask any Savior fan who never stopped believing in him for 3 years, hoping he'd make a comeback, even after he got taken off the CJ A-team, only to get their hearts broken again when they found out he was match-fixing.

It could always be worse ^^
Writer:o
hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
December 14 2011 10:47 GMT
#13
If you keep your hope for NesTea through this slump, which is all it is, you will find your excitement as a fan to watch him play will increase. If you remember Bisu's slump in 2010, which many believed to be the beginning of the end for him, especially with all the interviews and everyone getting in his face and generally making the situation worse, the people who stuck with him are even bigger Bisu fanboys because of it. There's still the average Bisu fanboy who likes him for his team, his race, and his amazing godly play and revolutionary PvZ, but now there's also the type of fan who is so dedicated to the player that they will follow him as long as he stays in the scene. Feels good to be one of those fans!
Please PM me with any songs you like that you think I haven't heard before!
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 10:50:05
December 14 2011 10:49 GMT
#14
On December 14 2011 19:37 Kiett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 17:41 thopol wrote:
On December 14 2011 16:56 neoghaleon55 wrote:
How much hurt can a fan endure?

Ask any STX fan...


Or alternatively, ask any Savior fan who never stopped believing in him for 3 years, hoping he'd make a comeback, even after he got taken off the CJ A-team, only to get their hearts broken again when they found out he was match-fixing.

It could always be worse ^^


Any protoss who wanted an OSL finals after nal_ra / before Jangbi. lol
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Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
December 14 2011 10:55 GMT
#15
On December 14 2011 19:49 OmniEulogy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 19:37 Kiett wrote:
On December 14 2011 17:41 thopol wrote:
On December 14 2011 16:56 neoghaleon55 wrote:
How much hurt can a fan endure?

Ask any STX fan...


Or alternatively, ask any Savior fan who never stopped believing in him for 3 years, hoping he'd make a comeback, even after he got taken off the CJ A-team, only to get their hearts broken again when they found out he was match-fixing.

It could always be worse ^^


Any protoss who wanted an OSL finals after nal_ra / before Jangbi. lol


Um.. did you forget Incruit 08?

That's easily my favorite finals along with Jin Air.
Writer:o
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
December 14 2011 11:11 GMT
#16
On December 14 2011 17:47 neoghaleon55 wrote:
Being a fan is a conditional relationship.
He's not my brother, my sibling, my kid, my dog...
What he does directly affects the relationship.

If you have a friend who's consistently screws up for no good reason, I don't think he'd be on the top of your friendlist.
The problem with nestea seems to be that he has other things on his mind. I don't expect the guy to play perfect, but I do expect him to play better than a casual player on battle.net.


Lol bandwagoner.
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
December 14 2011 11:22 GMT
#17
On December 14 2011 20:11 red4ce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 17:47 neoghaleon55 wrote:
Being a fan is a conditional relationship.
He's not my brother, my sibling, my kid, my dog...
What he does directly affects the relationship.

If you have a friend who's consistently screws up for no good reason, I don't think he'd be on the top of your friendlist.
The problem with nestea seems to be that he has other things on his mind. I don't expect the guy to play perfect, but I do expect him to play better than a casual player on battle.net.


Lol bandwagoner.


You want to explain your position?
I'm no bandwagoner. I fully explained the reason why nestea has infinitely pissed me off.
moo...for DRG
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 12:54:44
December 14 2011 12:53 GMT
#18
Weird. So you became a fan of him because of his play but now you don't like his play so you are losing your affinity for him. It's like the most complex bandwagon claim of all time, its almost understandable because I am assuming you don't really care about personality more just playstyle.

Its like your saying you wouldn't have become his fan if he had began with sloppy play like this I think. Interesting
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 13:05:54
December 14 2011 12:58 GMT
#19
Hi
the definition of bandwagon would like a word with you

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandwagon_effect
read:I'm not copying anybody by disliking/liking him

But you're correct, if he's been sloppy since the beginning, I wouldn't have been a fan.

Furthermore, Nestea really doesn't have a personality.
Sure he has that boss-nerd presence around him...but he rarely gets exposure to western audiences.

I'm taking a liking to DRG more these days, as you can see from my rabid posting on DRG fanclub.
DRG, in contrast to Nestea, does have a personality. And yes, sometimes DRG plays poorly, but he doesn't make game decisions like a lobotomized cat...the kind that nestea's been making lately.
moo...for DRG
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12680 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 13:00:48
December 14 2011 13:00 GMT
#20
a real fan would be fully supporting their idol if he keeps on trying and playing.
Saw this quote on Boxer's wing and agreed 100%
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
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