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warningfromspace
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
8 Posts
December 02 2011 02:09 GMT
#1
I played a 20 minute game yesterday and actually won. I decided to review it. I knew I had some problems but I found a TON. Ill document it here to both help me in analysis and for fun.

First few minutes were fairly good until I missed an overlord causing my roaches to come out in two segments. My first push I was rewarded with two horrible conclusions. Roaches cannot shoot up cliffs and he had a LOT of cannons.
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Tought spot now, I cant break though with my go to unit without a larger group. Plan B, something I saw at MLG. Mutalisks! Pretty pro right? hahaha

Just as my spire finished my poor overlord saw something horrible.
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Queue the freakout time
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More freakout
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Good news came when I pushed back his flyers. I had enought units to make a push, time to turn the tide of battle! NOPE NOPE NOPE
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I had a good enough econ to keep up the mutas and hold the low ground with my roaches. For every muta I lost in his base I was able to supply two more at my rally point just offshore. And SUCCESS
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After this success I decided to do some work via ai. Found this Build. I decided to work on transition, creep spread, and wtf are Banelings.

Bouncing back between creep, learning banelings, and keeping my damn camera off the base and on the action was too much to learn. I will needs to focus on one at a time now on. Camera on action will be first I think. Dy9 had a good Tuesday about that specifically I believe.

Lastly I noticed this with the replay tool. I am thinking this will improve with time but it seems very low. For the time I will not worry about it.
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Thanks for reading and I will appreciate any comments left! The people who left comments on my first entry seemed very nice and I am happy to continue posting here because of that.


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Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
December 02 2011 02:12 GMT
#2
Cute. :3

I have to ask since the minimap is cut out in all the pictures: Is it just the one base Protoss is turtling like mad on?
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
December 02 2011 02:22 GMT
#3
On December 02 2011 11:12 Bibbit wrote:
Cute. :3

I have to ask since the minimap is cut out in all the pictures: Is it just the one base Protoss is turtling like mad on?


With 9 apm, I imagine he'd have to be. :S

BTW, OP, the last pic is of the Protoss (your opponent's) APM, that is a Protoss badge in front, but from the empty space that his bar couldn't fill I imagine your APM is much higher than his.
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soulostar
Profile Joined June 2011
United States46 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-02 02:23:54
December 02 2011 02:22 GMT
#4
On December 02 2011 11:12 Bibbit wrote:
Cute. :3

I have to ask since the minimap is cut out in all the pictures: Is it just the one base Protoss is turtling like mad on?


I'm not sure if it's possible to 2 base with 9 apm... lol :p

edit: damn beaten
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noobcakes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States526 Posts
December 02 2011 02:43 GMT
#5
9 apm would like sending all of your probes to mine, making a pylon, and...i lost count
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mahi29
Profile Joined May 2011
United States235 Posts
December 02 2011 03:23 GMT
#6
How in the world do you play a game of Starcraft and only make 180 actions... over 20 min. I can only imagine that he was afk for a while or something.
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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-02 03:48:26
December 02 2011 03:48 GMT
#7
9........ ???????????????

To be fair 9 Blizzard apm is probably about 30 actual apm.
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6600 Posts
December 02 2011 06:20 GMT
#8
On December 02 2011 12:23 mahi29 wrote:
How in the world do you play a game of Starcraft and only make 180 actions... over 20 min. I can only imagine that he was afk for a while or something.


I am on a quest to find out if I can manage it. So far my minimum has been 45~ and it's a bit of a stretch for me to play that slowly if I just 1 base and don't even try and win I'm sure I could hit 9 though lol
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Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
December 02 2011 07:49 GMT
#9
9 average APM is a good number toi have
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HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
December 02 2011 08:27 GMT
#10
On December 02 2011 12:48 EtherealDeath wrote:
9........ ???????????????

To be fair 9 Blizzard apm is probably about 30 actual apm.


Ya, because it doesn't count all the spamming.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-02 08:55:31
December 02 2011 08:55 GMT
#11
I watched my brother play on his laptop. He was playing Novice Grounds on Slow Desert Oasis.
Even that slow, his apm was like: 7 maybe and its not like he's 6 or 8 years old, he's like 20 and just very slow.

Still accomplished a lot :3 Glad to see you are too warningfromspace
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xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
December 02 2011 09:03 GMT
#12
On December 02 2011 17:55 Torte de Lini wrote:
I watched my brother play on his laptop. He was playing Novice Grounds on Slow Desert Oasis.
Even that slow, his apm was like: 7 maybe and its not like he's 6 or 8 years old, he's like 20 and just very slow.

Still accomplished a lot :3 Glad to see you are too warningfromspace


My brother was exactly the same when I got him into SC lol, so fucking unbelievably slow! He's actually improved loads since then, I just sit behind his back and scream SCV SUPPLY DEPOT MULE at him whenever he ladders and it seems to work!
impression
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
413 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-02 10:12:18
December 02 2011 10:11 GMT
#13
Heh my apm is also ridiculously low. I attribute that to SC2 being my first RST and I've pretty much only been a casual gamer the last 3 years of my life (seriously, before then the only games I played were solitaire and The Neverhood - okay, slight exaggeration but you know what I mean) and so it really takes a lot for me to break 60 New Blizz APM >_< even late games when I have like 6 bases (yes, I'm silver) and a huge army and a million queens trying to inject and spread creep, yeah, but still, 9 APM is pretty, low. Like, what? How is it possible?

Edit:
On December 02 2011 18:03 xsksc wrote:
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On December 02 2011 17:55 Torte de Lini wrote:
I watched my brother play on his laptop. He was playing Novice Grounds on Slow Desert Oasis.
Even that slow, his apm was like: 7 maybe and its not like he's 6 or 8 years old, he's like 20 and just very slow.

Still accomplished a lot :3 Glad to see you are too warningfromspace


My brother was exactly the same when I got him into SC lol, so fucking unbelievably slow! He's actually improved loads since then, I just sit behind his back and scream SCV SUPPLY DEPOT MULE at him whenever he ladders and it seems to work!

I wish someone would sit behind me and scream 'inject bitch!'
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warningfromspace
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
8 Posts
December 02 2011 14:49 GMT
#14
@Bibbit I only found one base when he threw in the towel

@Mobius_1: I am silly, I will put up mine in my next game

@mahi29: It was early or so in the game. He had quite a few units, enough to kill a lot of mine. I might rewatch it and only watch his/her POV

@Torte de Lini: thank you very much!

@EtherealDeath: I can only go up!

@A_Bandersnatch: I found a cool trick to inject with all your bases with backspace and queens on one hotkey. Needs more work though, once every 4 times all my queens would go to the main base for some reason.
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