EPTThere are always enough hours in the day to do something you truly love. If you don't love it, you shouldn't go out and make try making a career out of it anyway, as it's not very stable.
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There are always enough hours in the day to do something you truly love. If you don't love it, you shouldn't go out and make try making a career out of it anyway, as it's not very stable. | ||
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Pughy
Wales662 Posts
On December 02 2011 06:05 Chill wrote: Pretty much. If you can't hold a fulltime job and find success in your hobby, then making your hobby your job is not a good idea and will not suddenly make it successful. Oh I missed your last thing. This year has been my best year for making money from ESPORTS and I've barely cleared a couple thousand. If I accept my new job offer, I will make more in a week (40 hrs) than all the money I made from SC2 in 2011. That being said, I don't go out looking for work or trying to make business opportunities. I edited it to for the next few posts  All your concerns are awesome and its even more awesome when I look at things like your post counts, your guys are obviously the wiser bunch so I will defo's take things you guys say into consideration. I can say I've thought about this alot and dicussed it with a few people. I'm not young and stupid, I'm not trying to make it as a pro player (I just play because I love competition), I wanna do more community related stuff. I'm a massive people person and I love meeting new people and in SC2 I get to meet alot of new people which motivates me into making something out of it. Like I said I help organise barcraft which will be getting much bigger next year, then theres CSL.eu which is doing really well so I got things in the works. I'm always gonna be in this scene and I think at one point I'll have to cut down hours so I'm trying to stay ahead of the curve and prepare better. Btw sorry for the shit english guys, as you can tell I put effort into it but dyslexias a bitch  | ||
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driftme
United States360 Posts
You say your contract is up at the end of the year. There's nowhere near enough time for you to prepare for this kind of income transition. You should AT MINIMUM have saved up 3 months worth of money to live off of. And thats reckless. You should ideally have at least 6 months of a "safety net" Most new businesses fail. And most new businesses are started by people who have done the preliminary work - business plan, investors, research, schooling... You don't appear to have any of these. That's not to say that you can't succeed... but your first attempt will probably fail. There's nothing bad about that, its just VERY hard to start a business, and most people who succeed at it will tell you that they basically had no money for the first 5 years. This is because aside from paying their bills, every last penny of their money goes to make sure the business doesnt go under. Now, i know you're not starting a traditional business, but you need to use the same mindset when you go into business for yourself. DO MARKET RESEARCH! You talk about all these ways you're gonna make money... maybe start by talking to experienced people in those areas and see if you can get a feel for how much money is in it. I think you have an unrealistic expectation. On December 02 2011 04:49 Pughy wrote:Conclusions: Working fulltime and then putting time into SC2 can be very exhausting so I think its best I cut down my hours and put that time into SC2. The scene is growing at an amazing rate and with more and more ways for people to support themselves in eSports I think now is a great time to progress in the SC2 world. Yes, starting a new career or new business is ALWAYS exhausting. But what you're doing now is the RIGHT way. Don't quit your job and expect to be making money off your new venture anytime soon. If you have money to live off of for the next year, I say GO FOR IT! Throw your entire being into accomplishing your goal. Otherwise, if you REALLY want to do this, keep saving, then when you think you're ready - save some more. You'd be surprised how fast your savings vanish when you have no income, or more probably... negative income. | ||
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MoreFaSho
United States1427 Posts
Later, while working a 70 hour a week job. I managed to continue improving my chess, qualified for the state championship and learned to play SC2 at a decent level. I balance this with having a girlfriend who is amazing and I spend a lot of time with (none of which is playing / watching sc2). I know it seem mistical, but I think when people "don't have enough time for stuff" it really means they spend 20 hours a week sitting with a thumb up their ass. Btw, I'm not crazy type-a either. I probably watch more TV shows than most. Let's try to account for your time a little. Let's say you sleep 8 hours a night, give you some time getting ready for bed, etc, showering in the morning, round it to 10 hours. That's 70 hours a week sleeping. That leaves 98 hours in the week. Let's say you work 8 hours a day 5 days a week and have a 1 hour commute each way. That leaves 48 hours left over. I'll even give you 2 hours a day for meals (ridiculous) where you can't do anything else. That leaves 34 hours. WTF, I could do so much with 34 hours a week. I could fucking write a book every few weeks. You know why I don't? Because I don't want to, and even if I had 54 hours in a week, I still wouldn't want to. But if I just "liked the idea" of writing a book, I could blame some of the hours I was working as to why I hadn't done shit towards becoming a published author. Day[9], probably your hero in your mind. Managed to finish his graduate degree and work over the summer while building the daily to something big enough he could live on. And he probably doesn't spend 34 hours a week on the daily to be quite honest and you're nowhere near Day[9]. | ||
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Pughy
Wales662 Posts
On December 02 2011 07:40 MoreFaSho wrote: Can I tell you how fucking sick and tired I am about people making excuses for not having enough time for things? Especially when then only real thing they spend time on is a 40 hour a week job? I managed to go from a 1000 rated chess player (pretty bad) to a 2100 rated chess player all while studying at Caltech (one of the toughest schools in the country) and graduated on time. I also managed to get a decent amount of sleep in the process. Later, while working a 70 hour a week job. I managed to continue improving my chess, qualified for the state championship and learned to play SC2 at a decent level. I balance this with having a girlfriend who is amazing and I spend a lot of time with (none of which is playing / watching sc2). I know it seem mistical, but I think when people "don't have enough time for stuff" it really means they spend 20 hours a week sitting with a thumb up their ass. Btw, I'm not crazy type-a either. I probably watch more TV shows than most. Let's try to account for your time a little. Let's say you sleep 8 hours a night, give you some time getting ready for bed, etc, showering in the morning, round it to 10 hours. That's 70 hours a week sleeping. That leaves 98 hours in the week. Let's say you work 8 hours a day 5 days a week and have a 1 hour commute each way. That leaves 48 hours left over. I'll even give you 2 hours a day for meals (ridiculous) where you can't do anything else. That leaves 34 hours. WTF, I could do so much with 34 hours a week. I could fucking write a book every few weeks. You know why I don't? Because I don't want to, and even if I had 54 hours in a week, I still wouldn't want to. But if I just "liked the idea" of writing a book, I could blame some of the hours I was working as to why I hadn't done shit towards becoming a published author. Day[9], probably your hero in your mind. Managed to finish his graduate degree and work over the summer while building the daily to something big enough he could live on. And he probably doesn't spend 34 hours a week on the daily to be quite honest and you're nowhere near Day[9]. What the hell? I dont know about you mate but if we use your maths 34 hours aint much, you can do alot in 34 hours but more is always better. And as I said before this entire blog is discussing and getting peoples thoughts on this subject. I'm not about to quit my job and jump into the deepend with a rock tied to me. I'm going to see what happens in the new year and decide then. I haven't written in detail my entire situation in terms of rl and in SC2, I tried to summerize it and direct the blog into a dicussion about turning SC2 into a career. I started thinking about all this a month ago and as you can tell I've thought alot about all the possible outcomes. So please stop trying to lecture me like I'm a 16 year old who wants to turn pro. I know that work, money and being able to support myself come first and I'm just trying to comebine SC2 with work. | ||
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aisight
United States145 Posts
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MoreFaSho
United States1427 Posts
On December 02 2011 08:46 Pughy wrote: What the hell? I dont know about you mate but if we use your maths 34 hours aint much, you can do alot in 34 hours but more is always better. And as I said before this entire blog is discussing and getting peoples thoughts on this subject. I'm not about to quit my job and jump into the deepend with a rock tied to me. I'm going to see what happens in the new year and decide then. I haven't written in detail my entire situation in terms of rl and in SC2, I tried to summerize it and direct the blog into a dicussion about turning SC2 into a career. I started thinking about all this a month ago and as you can tell I've thought alot about all the possible outcomes. So please stop trying to lecture me like I'm a 16 year old who wants to turn pro. I know that work, money and being able to support myself come first and I'm just trying to comebine SC2 with work. 34 hours ain't much? How is that possible. I think you should audit your time. If you worked for another 34 hours a week you would make almost twice as much money as you do right now. If I told you could make twice as much money, would that be a lot? "I haven't written in detail my entire situation in terms of rl and in SC2" This really is a cop-out. I think the reaction to most people saying they want to make SC2 a career, at any age, should be similar to them saying they want to make a career out of basketball. In whatever capacity you want to participate, there's a whole road between where you are now and where you want to be that involve making sacrifices to your free time. I honestly have no concern with the wanting to cut back on your work if you can afford it, if that would make you happier, great. But if you think it's going to make it any more likely to turn sc2 into a career, you're just wrong. | ||
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Golden Ghost
Netherlands1041 Posts
So everybody bashing him and throwing things around like "WTF, I could do so much with 34 hours a week" or "34 hours ain't much? How is that possible" should consider this. It might be you are right but it might also be possible he has only 4 of those 34 hours left in which he can take on extra projects. If he has a sound plan for a project that will consume 10 hours a week on top of his other commitments and at this moment he has only 5 hours left for it, it could be a possibility to work 5 hours less a week. Especially if he can miss the extra income those 5 hours would otherwise give him (that is assuming he won't be making any money from the get go on his new project). It's also a possibility to look closely at his other commitments and decide to drop one of those. But without any specific information it won't be possible for us to give any objective advice in my opinion. | ||
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aisight
United States145 Posts
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