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I really don't agree with this blog, while I appreciate the amount of effort you put into it. Although I really don't want to put a 1,000 word essay on why I disagree. I honestly feel like T is in great shape the entire game tvp, and their lategame is much better than that of the protoss. I have seen countless Terrans agree with this idea.
You should check out lastshadow's video blogs on how to play TvP. Can be found here : http://www.youtube.com/user/gosugamersnet/videos?query=vlog
Hopefully after watching this, you will have a better understanding of the matchup and realize just how doomed the protoss is all game, assuming you play properly.
5/5 blog good write up.
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I could have written this myself. I can't stand TvP, and I hate playing it to such an extent that it makes me want to quit the game entirely. It's immensly frustrating losing to turtle protoss over and over again. I've read lastshadow's blog and other guides on TvP, and I've attempted to incorporate it, but the late game micro is just so difficult for me and it seems so incredibly easy for the protoss. Every late game TvP ends with my army going splat basically doing no damage to his.
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On April 14 2012 08:42 trias_e wrote: I could have written this myself. I can't stand TvP, and I hate playing it to such an extent that it makes me want to quit the game entirely. It's immensly frustrating losing to turtle protoss over and over again. I've read lastshadow's blog and other guides on TvP, and I've attempted to incorporate it, but the late game micro is just so difficult for me and it seems so incredibly easy for the protoss. Every late game TvP ends with my army going splat basically doing no damage to his.
Then why don't you do what EVERY SINGLE TERRAN DOES. 5rax, starport reactor push herpderp win game.
Or just get better control.
The best part about this push is, you do it while getting an expansion, double engi bay, and w.e else you want. And 80% of the time you just win the game without even having to worry about the late game.
And don't say "Oh only works vs noobs". I watch progamers, and just regular ladder terrans do it. And the result is always the same. Protoss dying.
So try that out imo ^
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On April 14 2012 09:31 Vlare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2012 08:42 trias_e wrote: I could have written this myself. I can't stand TvP, and I hate playing it to such an extent that it makes me want to quit the game entirely. It's immensly frustrating losing to turtle protoss over and over again. I've read lastshadow's blog and other guides on TvP, and I've attempted to incorporate it, but the late game micro is just so difficult for me and it seems so incredibly easy for the protoss. Every late game TvP ends with my army going splat basically doing no damage to his. Then why don't you do what EVERY SINGLE TERRAN DOES. 5rax, starport reactor push herpderp win game. Or just get better control. The best part about this push is, you do it while getting an expansion, double engi bay, and w.e else you want. And 80% of the time you just win the game without even having to worry about the late game. And don't say "Oh only works vs noobs". I watch progamers, and just regular ladder terrans do it. And the result is always the same. Protoss dying. So try that out imo ^
Would be kind if you don't post here anymore, if you don't have any clue about the topic. Thanks!
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On April 14 2012 09:31 Vlare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2012 08:42 trias_e wrote: I could have written this myself. I can't stand TvP, and I hate playing it to such an extent that it makes me want to quit the game entirely. It's immensly frustrating losing to turtle protoss over and over again. I've read lastshadow's blog and other guides on TvP, and I've attempted to incorporate it, but the late game micro is just so difficult for me and it seems so incredibly easy for the protoss. Every late game TvP ends with my army going splat basically doing no damage to his. Then why don't you do what EVERY SINGLE TERRAN DOES. 5rax, starport reactor push herpderp win game. Or just get better control. The best part about this push is, you do it while getting an expansion, double engi bay, and w.e else you want. And 80% of the time you just win the game without even having to worry about the late game. And don't say "Oh only works vs noobs". I watch progamers, and just regular ladder terrans do it. And the result is always the same. Protoss dying. So try that out imo ^
What league are you in?
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The lategame power of protoss is balanced out by the early game power of terran. What you have said essentially is the complete opposite for a protoss fighting whatever form of 1-1-1, which still wins about 80% of the games at just about every level.
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I actually just play mech TvP. TT Also Pure Air into bio, but I'm less practiced up with that.
I open with cloak banshee expo into the marine, thor, banshee, raven composition, and stick with that until I get my third. As I take my third I add on factories and add siege tanks and bfh, in a mix that responds to his composition. The raven should let you kill obs.
Also, I surround all my bases in turrets. Really, it makes a huge difference. I make at least 3 sensor towers too, to watch his army movements.
The remainder of the game is dancing around with my army to make sure I'm sieged up well, and doing BFH runbys and drops/banshee harass to keep his army at home or to make him lose econ.
There's also a neat trick when you start getting a ton of minerals where you make like 5 barracks, hotkey them separately, and use them like force fields for your mech army.
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I understand you bro,Anyways to anyone who thought that you can win with mid game push is wrong,I mean his level of opponents is very high (high master on kr server I belive) it's ten time better than master on am or eu.
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