Enough with the "Career in esports" posts - Page 2

On November 30 2011 23:19 Hypertension wrote:
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Congratulations, you've discovered nihilism. I should warn you that this phase is basically intolerable to your friends and family. Soon you will figure out hedonism, your casual friends will approve, but your friends and family will still be upset. Finally you will move on to secular humanism and be awesome again.

On December 01 2011 00:06 2WeaK wrote:
What I've always said to people... Try a progamer schedule on your winter/summer vacation. Did you like it? Did you improve tremendously? If yes, keep practicing, but don't quit your job/dropout. If no, just play like you did before.

People think it's fun because they like the game, but like many things you like, you will probably get tired of it if you just play it too much.

On December 01 2011 00:11 Clbull wrote:
I've seen this happen 3 times on Reddit from around Dia/Master leagued players.

What happened?

First one: Polylol

Was in Master League, said he'd be practicing his arse off to hit GM and eventually become pro. First day, gets demoted to Diamond League after many games of flawed play. 4 days later, stops streaming.

Second one: Lobber

I think he was Diamond or low Masters but he actually made progress. He got to GM, he made it into a professional team (I don't think it's a salaried position but it's still something) and he seems dedicated.

Third one: Lobber's roommate

I dunno what progress he's made but Lobber discouraged him to take that road unless he was absolutely sure he had the willpower and the mindset to do it.

On December 01 2011 00:19 Clbull wrote:

An issue with this is:

• Many people don't really know what a "progamer schedule" is. Sure at its most primative level it's "Playing Starcraft II for 8 hours straight per day" but many pros probably practice more intelligently than just grinding out ladder games or customs.
  
• In a summer vacation, you could probably get a fucktonne done in 6 - 10 weeks depending on how long it is. However, winter vacations are usually only 2 weeks and that's not really enough time to show results.
  
• Practicing mechanics is a lot harder than it looks. It requires a colossal amount of repetition. I once tried a day where I grinded out around 14 PvZs (in a row and all practice games vs Easy AI) where I merely practiced FFE openings and either transitioned into 5 Gate Robo or 1 Gate Stargate to try and perfect the build. Even with this, identifying mistakes is easy but correcting them requires a great deal of thought, timing and willpower to do things over and over again. Even after repeating this for what seemed like almost 2 hours, I still don't feel that confident when opening up FFE..All that really changed about my play was that I changed the rally point of my 8th Probe to the natural instead of manually moved it from the minerals to there.
  
• Can you really practice when you have a tonne of work to do? Maybe so in the first year of university/college but work does pile up a tonne in the later years.
  

On December 01 2011 00:23 -Illusion- wrote:

Oh that was lobber. Hes midmaster atm though

On December 01 2011 00:23 ohokurwrong wrote:
this also isnt true on one point. practice does not make perfect. my brother and me can shoot 90 percent from the free throw line 4 years after we stopped playing ball. my old teamates older brother whos in the NBA cant shoot 90 percent from anywhere on the court and the reason is some ppl are just not gifted in certain aspects of life. there will be people who just are damn good and you dont know why. people will say oh he doesnt practice as much blah blah. at the end of the day ppl also have MMR and ELO and guess what, you cant increase it and its most certainly a hidden rating that you will never get past no matter how hard you try. genes determine this stuff and it sucks but thats life

On December 01 2011 00:25 Clbull wrote:

Oh really?

Then again, it is possible he could have lost GM status in these last 30 days, but that usually involves inactivity and not being plain bad. He's actually won one or two small tournaments though.

EDIT: There was apparently a bug that made it easier to hit GM than usual (which he didn't abuse but it got him there anyway.) He lost it after that but could have kept GM status if he played more.

On December 01 2011 00:41 Itsmedudeman wrote:

GM is a step in the right direction, but it's hardly pro status, especially on anything but KR and even then there's a lot of teamless guys there.