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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
November 30 2011 16:31 GMT
#41
finally a sensible blog!
POGGERS
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 17:03:30
November 30 2011 17:02 GMT
#42
On December 01 2011 00:25 Clbull wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 00:23 -Illusion- wrote:
On December 01 2011 00:11 Clbull wrote:
I've seen this happen 3 times on Reddit from around Dia/Master leagued players.

What happened?

First one: Polylol

Was in Master League, said he'd be practicing his arse off to hit GM and eventually become pro. First day, gets demoted to Diamond League after many games of flawed play. 4 days later, stops streaming.

Second one: Lobber

I think he was Diamond or low Masters but he actually made progress. He got to GM, he made it into a professional team (I don't think it's a salaried position but it's still something) and he seems dedicated.

Third one: Lobber's roommate

I dunno what progress he's made but Lobber discouraged him to take that road unless he was absolutely sure he had the willpower and the mindset to do it.

Oh that was lobber. Hes midmaster atm though

Oh really?

Then again, it is possible he could have lost GM status in these last 30 days, but that usually involves inactivity and not being plain bad. He's actually won one or two small tournaments though.

EDIT: There was apparently a bug that made it easier to hit GM than usual (which he didn't abuse but it got him there anyway.) He lost it after that but could have kept GM status if he played more.

He would have kept GM status, but that means nothing because you can't drop out of GM by losing. He got there from the bug, which is what counts.

Agreed with the OP pretty much. Having that kind of dedication is uncommon, and you really need to have results before you take that kind of step.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 30 2011 18:23 GMT
#43
On November 30 2011 20:19 Empyrean wrote:
One of the few times I'll post outside of mod forums is to tell people that they won't find a career in progaming


That's what's up Emp. <3

Being a realist can be a difficult thing.
itkovian
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1763 Posts
November 30 2011 19:31 GMT
#44
Ya, I think people should worry about getting good at SC2 in their spare time, rather than take a gamble and commit to something uncertain like that full time. Basically, your blog somes it up pretty well, its not safe to commit to something like this until you are very good at it all ready.

Many really good players are even reluctant to commit to it full time as well. There are plenty of top tier players that are still attending school because they know that school is the most reliable payoff in the future.
=)=
xSixGeneralHan
Profile Joined April 2011
United States528 Posts
November 30 2011 19:50 GMT
#45
I agree so much. No illusions of grandeur please.
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
November 30 2011 20:01 GMT
#46
I think a great deal of the people making these 'I'm gonna be pro' posts are 14-16 year olds. I can't say I didn't know a lot of people who wanted to play guitar or something in a rock band for a living in high school. This is just the weird totally nerdy version of that. Apart from the fact that music will always be appreciated, that is. SC2 might be replaced by SC3 in five years so that adds another layer of foolishness.

I don't really appreciate those blogs (actually I haven't read one in awhile, maybe they died out), but I'm not about to get super judgmental about a kid's week long fantasy.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
Mothra
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1448 Posts
November 30 2011 20:23 GMT
#47
They are just doing crosstraining. Everyone knows that the more blogs you write, the more strong you get at SC2. Healthy training ratio is like 3:1 blogging to practice.
Antimage
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1293 Posts
November 30 2011 20:24 GMT
#48
the blogs themselves are entertaining though.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
November 30 2011 21:18 GMT
#49
You make me feel bad for kind of writing a blog kind of along those lines
Bobo_XIII
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States429 Posts
November 30 2011 21:19 GMT
#50
You definitely could drop everything and 'go pro,' but it isn't realistic at all, especially since most people don't know what hard work is. It doesn't help that people pat themselves on the back too fucking much. I have a friend who will write up a 10 paragraph essay on each win that he did, each paragraph mostly delusional optimism, and rage quit and blame everything but himself on why he sucks whenever he loses.

You see it everyday. Physical fitness, for example... people announce to the fucking world how in shape they're going to get, or how much weight they're going to lose, and become discouraged because running 3 miles requires too much suffering or they're not seeing 20lb gains after a week's worth of half-assed exercise and posing in front of the mirrors of their gym.
There's a hole in the world like a great black pit, and the vermin of the world inhabit it... and its morals aren't worth what a pig could spit, and it goes by the name of Reddit.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 21:48:34
November 30 2011 21:48 GMT
#51
On November 30 2011 20:19 Empyrean wrote:
One of the few times I'll post outside of mod forums is to tell people that they won't find a career in progaming


Empyrean November 30 2011 20:19. Posts 14142

i seee

far too many wanna be pros out there
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Joshy.IGN
Profile Joined May 2011
United States530 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 21:58:34
November 30 2011 21:56 GMT
#52
On November 30 2011 20:19 Empyrean wrote:
One of the few times I'll post outside of mod forums is to tell people that they won't find a career in progaming

But I did, and I only started on day 1 of the beta. You just have to do it yourself.

Edit: I have an "eSports career," which is different than a "progaming career," I suppose. =P
IGN eSports Community Marketing Manager || http://www.ign.com/ipl
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
November 30 2011 21:56 GMT
#53


yes yes its lastshadow blah blah BM, but this is an excellent vlog on this whole issue
IoDefault
Profile Joined January 2011
United States33 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-01 03:39:46
December 01 2011 03:39 GMT
#54
On November 30 2011 22:35 TheLOLas wrote:
I totally agree with the OP. Starcraft and work/school go hand in hand. Doesn't Polt go to the best school in Korea? And he is still a great player.


Polt did go to the best school in Korea, however he was a relatively unknown player and wasn't anything special. As soon as he graduated however he dedicated himself to SC and became the player you know today winning the GSL Super Tournament
warcralft
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore609 Posts
December 01 2011 03:52 GMT
#55
On December 01 2011 12:39 IoDefault wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 22:35 TheLOLas wrote:
I totally agree with the OP. Starcraft and work/school go hand in hand. Doesn't Polt go to the best school in Korea? And he is still a great player.


Polt did go to the best school in Korea, however he was a relatively unknown player and wasn't anything special. As soon as he graduated however he dedicated himself to SC and became the player you know today winning the GSL Super Tournament


Actually Polt WAS something before he took a break from school. He beat Boxer in Ro32?(Or 16 i forgot) in GSL open season 3 when Boxer was like the most hyped person on earth. Granted that the game was pretty undeveloped back then. But he made a name for himself while in university. He even got into PRIME(at that time).

Even though he produced his first results ( Super Tournament ) after he took a break from uni but he could get into a TEAM while in school and getting pretty high up there (qualifying for GSL 2, GSL 3, staying Code S). Yeah.

Back to the OP. I also HAD the same mindset of. OH I COULD BE A PROGAMER BY QUITING SCHOOL. For a week. When u calm down and realise that grinding out 50 games a day could be fun in an aspect but you wont be improving much. It takes much talent and dedication to be able to grind out 50 PRODUCTIVE games a day to improve yourselves. So yeah, this blog is awesome.
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
December 01 2011 03:56 GMT
#56
I just feel sorry for them when I see those posts .
|BW>Everything|Add me on star2 KR server TheMuTaL.675 for practice games :)|NEX clan| https://www.dotabuff.com/players/183104694
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
December 01 2011 04:13 GMT
#57
On December 01 2011 12:56 Megaliskuu wrote:
I just feel sorry for them when I see those posts .


Despite your rough exterior you have a gooey centre

I think a lot of those posts are just to the age bracket on here. Kids are naive. They will learn in time. I kind of like these blogs in a weird way. The world is so cynical it is nice to see some innocence now and then.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
December 01 2011 04:14 GMT
#58
On December 01 2011 13:13 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 12:56 Megaliskuu wrote:
I just feel sorry for them when I see those posts .


Despite your rough exterior you have a gooey centre

I think a lot of those posts are just to the age bracket on here. Kids are naive. They will learn in time. I kind of like these blogs in a weird way. The world is so cynical it is nice to see some innocence now and then.


I've never seen that emoticon used before, well done ^^.
|BW>Everything|Add me on star2 KR server TheMuTaL.675 for practice games :)|NEX clan| https://www.dotabuff.com/players/183104694
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
December 01 2011 04:51 GMT
#59
surprised there aren't people complaining how you should instead "encourage people to pursue their dreams of becoming a pro-gamer" and how terrible TL is for saying people shouldn't do it
blabberrrrr
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
December 01 2011 05:12 GMT
#60
On November 30 2011 20:19 Empyrean wrote:
One of the few times I'll post outside of mod forums is to tell people that they won't find a career in progaming


and to find spelling mistakes in my posts..
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
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