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ABagOfFritos
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada454 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 02:15:29
November 26 2011 00:17 GMT
#1
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=289053

Go here.
MerciLess
Profile Joined September 2010
213 Posts
November 26 2011 00:20 GMT
#2
She's 16 and her dad doesn't want you to see her. I personally think 16 and 20 isn't so bad, but you can't really go against his wishes at this point, considering she's a minor. I'd let it go until she gets a little older or he decides it's okay. I'm not sure about the laws in Canada, but in the US that's definitely grounds for statutory if it came to it.
iceburn
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States303 Posts
November 26 2011 00:21 GMT
#3
You are an adult attempting to date a minor. In most cases this is really frowned upon. On top of this there are a mirad of legal issues that can really mess over your life if anything negative arises from the issue. If you are in the US you could have a label of sexual predator and what not if you decided to pursue stuff farther.

Also I think this belongs in the blog section.
Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 00:24:08
November 26 2011 00:22 GMT
#4
Forgot my first post, you are Canadian, ha. You gotta look out for your school career and such. But maybe you can transfer schools in a bit or she just says fuck you to her dad, ha.
an overdeveloped sense of self preservation
ABagOfFritos
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada454 Posts
November 26 2011 00:23 GMT
#5
As far as legality goes, in Canada the age of consent is 16, so there is no issue there.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
November 26 2011 00:23 GMT
#6
Blog this, yo.
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mastergriggy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1312 Posts
November 26 2011 00:24 GMT
#7
Play the Day[9] Daily #100 for him. He'll be so inspired it'll be easy to convince him.
Write your own song!
ABagOfFritos
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada454 Posts
November 26 2011 00:24 GMT
#8
On November 26 2011 09:24 mastergriggy wrote:
Play the Day[9] Daily #100 for him. He'll be so inspired it'll be easy to convince him.

I lol'd, thanks.
TheLOLas
Profile Joined May 2011
United States646 Posts
November 26 2011 00:24 GMT
#9
??? is this the proper place for this thread ??? should this not be a blog.???
ABagOfFritos
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada454 Posts
November 26 2011 00:26 GMT
#10
Reposted as a blog, thanks, wasn't sure.
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=289053
RetroAspect
Profile Joined November 2011
Belgium219 Posts
November 26 2011 00:26 GMT
#11
Would hate to be in your shoes right now dude .. really i mean that.

Not too much you can do except for not putting pressure on her in ANY way at all now. never forget that she is still the minor and you are stronger and more mature than her , and even more so she is between two fires right now. Imo you really should try hard to see her dad and talk to her man, go over to her house unnanounced even if need be, you have nothing to lose at the moment as far as i can see..

I wish you best of luck man and hope it works out for you!
I am what i am and thats all that i am!
ranshaked
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States870 Posts
November 26 2011 00:26 GMT
#12
She's too young bro. Honestly I'm 22 and I won't date anyone you get than 21.

Tbh I find it creepy. You're 20. Hang out w people your age. She's still in high school anyway you put it
Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 00:28:53
November 26 2011 00:27 GMT
#13
Please blogs this

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HerroPreaseTN
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Norway71 Posts
November 26 2011 00:29 GMT
#14
About 90% or more of the relationships any 16 year old gets into eventually breaks up. Perhaps especially when it comes to age differences like yours. So chances are that it won't last. So I guess the question would be - is it worth fighting for if it's going to break up in 2 years and she's still at a different school getting accustomed to a new social setting?

I know it's probably not remotely near the answer neither you nor any other would want to hear in this context, of course, but at least it's something to consider.

Nevertheless, making a phone to him tell your bit and showing your true colors (which I assume are sparkly in a non-Twilight way, with powershine and glory <3), sounds like a pretty good idea =)
MerciLess
Profile Joined September 2010
213 Posts
November 26 2011 00:31 GMT
#15
On November 26 2011 09:26 ranshaked wrote:
She's too young bro. Honestly I'm 22 and I won't date anyone you get than 21.

Tbh I find it creepy. You're 20. Hang out w people your age. She's still in high school anyway you put it



Meh, he's 20 she's 16. It's not like he's a full blown adult and she's a kid, they're in the same ball park. If she was 18 and he was 22 it would be a non-issue
ranshaked
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States870 Posts
November 26 2011 00:33 GMT
#16
What I'm saying is that she's in high school. It's a huge difference when you're 20 and 16
Iranon
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States983 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 00:40:05
November 26 2011 00:36 GMT
#17
On November 26 2011 09:31 MerciLess wrote:
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On November 26 2011 09:26 ranshaked wrote:
She's too young bro. Honestly I'm 22 and I won't date anyone you get than 21.

Tbh I find it creepy. You're 20. Hang out w people your age. She's still in high school anyway you put it



Meh, he's 20 she's 16. It's not like he's a full blown adult and she's a kid, they're in the same ball park. If she was 18 and he was 22 it would be a non-issue


And if she was 12 and he was 16 it wouldn't be a non-issue. You can't just slide ages around and think they're still going to be comparable.

The issue isn't that they are four years apart, the issue is that she is six-goddamn-teen. I wouldn't put too much faith in the emotional maturity of a girl who's halfway through high school, regardless of what she seems like. There's a world of difference between being halfway through high school and being through high school, through some college, deciding college isn't for you, and back to high school.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
November 26 2011 00:37 GMT
#18
Age difference aside, have you asked the girl to talk with her mother? If she could talk to the father and maybe convince him to let you talk with all of them?
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
November 26 2011 00:39 GMT
#19
She's too young, sorry.
greatZERG
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia755 Posts
November 26 2011 00:41 GMT
#20
For what it's worth I'm now 25 and my girlfriend is 21 but when we first met she was 17 and I was 21 (first year of uni for her, I went back a few years after working for a while).

We've been together for 3 1/2 years and lived together for three years, if she's mature enough at that age (which 99% of teenage girls aren't because teenagers are retarded) then she isn't too young for you.

Glgl
stu >)
ABagOfFritos
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada454 Posts
November 26 2011 00:42 GMT
#21
On November 26 2011 09:37 Grettin wrote:
Age difference aside, have you asked the girl to talk with her mother? If she could talk to the father and maybe convince him to let you talk with all of them?

She isn't very close with her mother, who lives about 12 hours north and only calls every couple of months. Unfortunately I'm not going to be able to find a member of her family who can side with me other than her.
subV
Profile Joined June 2011
United States93 Posts
November 26 2011 00:42 GMT
#22
There is a huge maturity difference between 16 and 20, at least there should be. I assume she is still in high school, you've graduated for two years now. My mentality in high school was so much different than it is now (I'm 21 now and if I ever met my 16 year old self, I would punch him in the face for being so goddamn stupid), and I couldn't imagine dating somebody with that same kind of high school mentality.

Meh, he's 20 she's 16. It's not like he's a full blown adult and she's a kid, they're in the same ball park.

She is definitely a kid...
ABagOfFritos
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada454 Posts
November 26 2011 00:50 GMT
#23
On November 26 2011 09:42 subV wrote:
There is a huge maturity difference between 16 and 20, at least there should be. I assume she is still in high school, you've graduated for two years now. My mentality in high school was so much different than it is now (I'm 21 now and if I ever met my 16 year old self, I would punch him in the face for being so goddamn stupid), and I couldn't imagine dating somebody with that same kind of high school mentality.

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Meh, he's 20 she's 16. It's not like he's a full blown adult and she's a kid, they're in the same ball park.

She is definitely a kid...

A lot of you are making pretty rash assumptions about the personality of both myself and this girl, which doesn't help me in the slightest and is completely useless. Stop wasting keystrokes, let your keyboards live a little bit longer.
StreetHeat
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States225 Posts
November 26 2011 00:51 GMT
#24
When in doubt remember the "Half your age plus 7" rule. You're about 1year off my friend therefore it equals scandal
“If you want to learn to swim jump into the water. On dry land no frame of mind is ever going to help you” -Bruce Lee
ABagOfFritos
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada454 Posts
November 26 2011 00:54 GMT
#25
On November 26 2011 09:51 StreetHeat wrote:
When in doubt remember the "Half your age plus 7" rule. You're about 1year off my friend therefore it equals scandal

I'm not going to rest my future on something as arbitrary as this. Don't be ridiculous.
HerroPreaseTN
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Norway71 Posts
November 26 2011 01:07 GMT
#26
In personality development, two very distinct phases is the age from 15/16-18/19, then there's 18/19-24/25. Something which is pretty normal in relationships where one is minor and the other in his/her twenties is that either the older one is less mature than those of his age and/or the other one is more mature than those of his/her age.

I was a hopeless romantic myself until I realized that love is fluffy, fun and without prejudice at first, it will after a while when it moves over to a real relationship, require a lot of hard work. At that point something solid (equal values, religion/non-religion, being at about the same places in life etc.) come in handy. I'll assume you're both quite alike, that you've thought things through and that you mention that you can really relax with her sounds great, so I'd never blame you for giving it a go.

Still, people have their opinions regarding age for a reason. Then again, I've become quite extreme at not trusting the good 'ol Disney love story and have a set of criteria which has to be met for the girl to even be a candidate - regardless of how much fun we have at first

So after having all that said, I'll pay my 2 cents to the questions at hand:

1. Yes, you should call him and talk with him. Make an effort and show that you're responsible and take care of matters on your own initiative - which any grown and mature man who really loves his woman would do.

2. Yes, I'd say waiting until Monday sounds like a nice idea since then you'll have more to work on or know more of the context. Although, I'm not quite certain - for all I know it may be just as good a time right now.

Bottom line is, you're a grown man and seem sensible. I'm quite certain you'll find a reasonable conclusion.

ArcticFox
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1092 Posts
November 26 2011 01:11 GMT
#27
On November 26 2011 09:42 subV wrote:
There is a huge maturity difference between 16 and 20, at least there should be. I assume she is still in high school, you've graduated for two years now. My mentality in high school was so much different than it is now (I'm 21 now and if I ever met my 16 year old self, I would punch him in the face for being so goddamn stupid), and I couldn't imagine dating somebody with that same kind of high school mentality.

You may believe this, and it may be true, but trying to tell all this to someone blinded by love is going to be like beating your head against the wall, regardless of age.

Truth is, the situation is very simple. You're dating a girl still living with her father. The father disapproves. So your options are pretty crystal clear:

1) Call and speak with the father man-to-man style. Set up a meeting if you can (someplace neutral if possible, or visit their place if he insists -- remember, you're the one asking for something here), and convince him that you're not just some "loser who can't get girls his own age, preying on his little girl who just likes you because you're older, and if I keep you two apart it will pass." This is what the father is thinking, and unless you can talk to him like a man, this is what he will always think. Also, if you can't face him, you'll more or less be proving him right.

If you can't succeed on that front, or you can't man up and face him like that, your options are:

2) Wait until she's on her own to pursue anything. Which from the sounds of things you seem pretty unwilling to do.

3) Sneak behind everyone's back and see her anyway. And you WILL get caught. And it will end painfully. And it's the worst possible reaction. I highly advise against this.

4) Give up and pursue someone else.

I don't know how long you have been seeing each other. If it's been a long time and you haven't met her father, that's a problem in and of itself. If it's been a short time, he's trying to nip it in the bud before it gets serious.

Sorry if it sounds harsh. But moaning around about it fixes nothing, and the longer you wait the harder it will be. If she's awesome and worth pursuing, you gotta man up and face the Dad. If you can't, you're either too immature to handle the relationship that will follow (no matter how close 20 to 16 sounds, there will be a lot of problems you will need to work around, and yes a maturity level difference is one of them), or she's not worth it anyway and you need to move on.
ABagOfFritos
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada454 Posts
November 26 2011 01:22 GMT
#28
On November 26 2011 10:11 ArcticFox wrote:
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On November 26 2011 09:42 subV wrote:
There is a huge maturity difference between 16 and 20, at least there should be. I assume she is still in high school, you've graduated for two years now. My mentality in high school was so much different than it is now (I'm 21 now and if I ever met my 16 year old self, I would punch him in the face for being so goddamn stupid), and I couldn't imagine dating somebody with that same kind of high school mentality.

You may believe this, and it may be true, but trying to tell all this to someone blinded by love is going to be like beating your head against the wall, regardless of age.

Truth is, the situation is very simple. You're dating a girl still living with her father. The father disapproves. So your options are pretty crystal clear:

1) Call and speak with the father man-to-man style. Set up a meeting if you can (someplace neutral if possible, or visit their place if he insists -- remember, you're the one asking for something here), and convince him that you're not just some "loser who can't get girls his own age, preying on his little girl who just likes you because you're older, and if I keep you two apart it will pass." This is what the father is thinking, and unless you can talk to him like a man, this is what he will always think. Also, if you can't face him, you'll more or less be proving him right.

If you can't succeed on that front, or you can't man up and face him like that, your options are:

2) Wait until she's on her own to pursue anything. Which from the sounds of things you seem pretty unwilling to do.

3) Sneak behind everyone's back and see her anyway. And you WILL get caught. And it will end painfully. And it's the worst possible reaction. I highly advise against this.

4) Give up and pursue someone else.

I don't know how long you have been seeing each other. If it's been a long time and you haven't met her father, that's a problem in and of itself. If it's been a short time, he's trying to nip it in the bud before it gets serious.

Sorry if it sounds harsh. But moaning around about it fixes nothing, and the longer you wait the harder it will be. If she's awesome and worth pursuing, you gotta man up and face the Dad. If you can't, you're either too immature to handle the relationship that will follow (no matter how close 20 to 16 sounds, there will be a lot of problems you will need to work around, and yes a maturity level difference is one of them), or she's not worth it anyway and you need to move on.

Option 1 is where we stand right now, seems like it's the same advice there across the board from whoever I talk to (that is being supportive). Failing this I hate to say it but 4 is the most likely next step. 2 would make for a nice story, but the reality of it is tough to imagine, let alone act on.
mastergriggy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1312 Posts
November 26 2011 01:52 GMT
#29
Alright, on a more serious note, it really depends on what the dad says. He's the legal guardian of the girl, and it almost sounds like it would be demeaning to her life if you are to keep being with her. If you can convince the dad that you are an okay guy, maybe it'll work great.

Time also has a factor, maybe you just caught him during a bad week? Maybe he'll be more reasonable if you drop it for a few days?
Write your own song!
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 02:00:51
November 26 2011 01:56 GMT
#30
ok so you're a 20 year old university drop out attending highschool, and you fall in love with a 16 year old and then her dad gets mad and forbids it.. oh, and you add "what do" in a very 4chanish style. i would say get your act together and go to university and date someone your own age when it isn't illegal to touch them. the dad can fuck you up legally so many ways that you're a complete idiot if you pursue her after he was nice enough to warn you.

edit` feels bad man and forever alone blog predicted for the future.

edit number two

On November 26 2011 09:17 ABagOfFritos wrote:
my girl


lol, she's not your girl apparently, shes the school and her dad's girl.
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
ABagOfFritos
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada454 Posts
November 26 2011 02:04 GMT
#31
On November 26 2011 10:56 Endymion wrote:
ok so you're a 20 year old university drop out attending highschool, and you fall in love with a 16 year old and then her dad gets mad and forbids it.. oh, and you add "what do" in a very 4chanish style. i would say get your act together and go to university and date someone your own age when it isn't illegal to touch them. the dad can fuck you up legally so many ways that you're a complete idiot if you pursue her after he was nice enough to warn you.

edit` feels bad man and forever alone blog predicted for the future.

edit number two

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On November 26 2011 09:17 ABagOfFritos wrote:
my girl


lol, she's not your girl apparently, shes the school and her dad's girl.

The assumptions in this post are astounding. I'm not a dropout, I completed two full years at a local University with a 3.0 and didn't find anything I really enjoyed, so I registered to attend a local school which accepts both highschool and post-secondary students. And as has been stated several times, the relationship is completely legal.
Trict
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada182 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 02:14:04
November 26 2011 02:12 GMT
#32
On November 26 2011 09:37 Grettin wrote:
Age difference aside, have you asked the girl to talk with her mother? If she could talk to the father and maybe convince him to let you talk with all of them?

Don't know if you know but in canada the legal age is 16. He is doing nothing wrong, and can't be pursued legally by the father for anything unless she doesn't want it.
Chaves
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Brazil315 Posts
November 26 2011 02:19 GMT
#33
Well, my opinion: Nock in her door and try to talk man to man with her dad, Explain your fellings and our intentions and bla bla , either he ll accpt or tell you to GTFO.

If he dont accpt it , there is nothing that you can do ... and i would advice to forget this cos rly dont worth go to jail or some other sh1t like this ...
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