• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:53
CEST 16:53
KST 23:53
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly4Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard"2ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!28Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters2Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)93
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format What's the best tug of war? Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard"
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly INu's Battles#18 - Cure, herO, Rogue & ByuN Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Industrial Park New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate
External Content
Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Recent recommended BW games screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool ASL22 General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Star Con San Diego 2026 BSL LAN Party - Kraków 29-30 August - OPEN SIGNUPS Escore Tournament - Season 3
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvT advise for noobs Fighting Spirit mining rates Creating a full chart of Zerg builds
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Diablo IV
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread US Politics Mega-thread How to buy a book - shipping from Korea to Europe
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread 2026-27 Football Thread placeholder TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Games, Hormones, and "Dark" …
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9652 users

What's the state of World of Warcraft? - Page 2

Blogs > calgar
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 All
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
November 14 2011 23:57 GMT
#21
On November 15 2011 08:45 RyN wrote:
Right now it's pretty boring. The Deathwing raid tier should be coming first week of December, so that's hopefully going to make things more interesting again. That said, I'm not excited for it at all, so I hope it does something for me when it actually arrives. Since PvP is (imo) terrible, I may just wait for Mists (MoP will be awesome btw - I sure as hell am excited about that). That is, if they decide to actually make a proper mage talent tree... that atrocity that's up now can never see the light of day.

Thank god for Skyrim though, I'm having so much fun with that game. And by the time I get bored of it, TOR and GW2 will be out. Choices, mmm... never a bad thing.
Ah great, someone who actually plays (mage) currently! How long have you played? I'm going to guess that you started in Wotlk or cata because tbh I find the longer people have player, the poorer their opinion of current things. Do you really think MoP is going to be awesome? I guess for many the magic has died and nothing will be able to bring it back. Damn, now I'm just reminiscing...
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-15 01:42:40
November 15 2011 01:42 GMT
#22
I just got back to WOW after 5 years of not playing (quit right before TBC). I was O_O by how the game has changed. Its way too easy and one dimensional nowadays.
I also completely agree that LFD is terrible, I've been back to playing since 4.2 but beside of my 3 real life friends that come back to play with me. I made no new friend on WOW for the first 2 months. LFD really takes away the sense of a community. You don't need to know anyone, just learn to click that button and wait. After getting into the dungeon, players don't even bother chatting, just go forward, toward the end and left right after.

For the raid right now its not that bad though. FL has some really cool fight esp Rag. But since you don't need to "social" on WOW anymore it makes the game boring most of the time except time for raid. If you don't raid, don't even bother coming back or start play at all.
Terran
Thorakh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-15 08:38:13
November 15 2011 08:38 GMT
#23
On November 15 2011 08:57 calgar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 08:45 RyN wrote:
Right now it's pretty boring. The Deathwing raid tier should be coming first week of December, so that's hopefully going to make things more interesting again. That said, I'm not excited for it at all, so I hope it does something for me when it actually arrives. Since PvP is (imo) terrible, I may just wait for Mists (MoP will be awesome btw - I sure as hell am excited about that). That is, if they decide to actually make a proper mage talent tree... that atrocity that's up now can never see the light of day.

Thank god for Skyrim though, I'm having so much fun with that game. And by the time I get bored of it, TOR and GW2 will be out. Choices, mmm... never a bad thing.
Ah great, someone who actually plays (mage) currently! How long have you played? I'm going to guess that you started in Wotlk or cata because tbh I find the longer people have player, the poorer their opinion of current things. Do you really think MoP is going to be awesome? I guess for many the magic has died and nothing will be able to bring it back. Damn, now I'm just reminiscing...
I've been playing for four years now and it seems MoP will bring at least part of the magic back. Knowing Blizzard and WoW though, they'll probably fuck it up, but I believe it's going to be worth a try at least.
ryndaris
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
263 Posts
November 15 2011 09:30 GMT
#24
On November 15 2011 08:57 calgar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 08:45 RyN wrote:
Right now it's pretty boring. The Deathwing raid tier should be coming first week of December, so that's hopefully going to make things more interesting again. That said, I'm not excited for it at all, so I hope it does something for me when it actually arrives. Since PvP is (imo) terrible, I may just wait for Mists (MoP will be awesome btw - I sure as hell am excited about that). That is, if they decide to actually make a proper mage talent tree... that atrocity that's up now can never see the light of day.

Thank god for Skyrim though, I'm having so much fun with that game. And by the time I get bored of it, TOR and GW2 will be out. Choices, mmm... never a bad thing.
Ah great, someone who actually plays (mage) currently! How long have you played? I'm going to guess that you started in Wotlk or cata because tbh I find the longer people have player, the poorer their opinion of current things. Do you really think MoP is going to be awesome? I guess for many the magic has died and nothing will be able to bring it back. Damn, now I'm just reminiscing...


Heh, I started playing WoW the first day it came out in Europe in 2005. I played a warlock for half of vanilla, then played a mage for the second half + the whole of TBC. I didn't play at all in Wrath, but I came back last december in Cata, again with my mage. I didn't raid tier 11 due to time concerns, I am actively raiding tier 12 heroics atm. And yes, from what I've seen at BlizzCon, MoP will be exactly what WoW needs. I just hope I won't be disappointed.

As for the "magic" being gone... it's been gone for me ever since TBC ended and even then I was already pretty pissed off (Illidan getting killed by a bunch of noobs on the internet? fuck no). That feeling of exploring something genuinely new and different, going into the unknown and immersing yourself in the story and characters... it will never come back to the way it was when I first entered Westfall with my warlock on level 10, not a single green item to his name, carefully timing his shadowbolts not to aggro the taunt-immune harvest watchers before they took enough damage from his Voidwalker. The best we can hope for is something that comes as close as possible to that and all I can say at this point is that MoP is doing a whole lot more for me in the excitement department than WotLK or Cata ever did.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
November 15 2011 10:27 GMT
#25
Have to agree with RyN here, I mean Blizzard f*cked the lore so much for some contents that last like a few months and then people will forget it forever.
Just make some random boss name it whatever and creating an interesting fight and people will love it. Some pretty big and awesome lore characters don't need to be killed by some 25/10 mortals O_O. The Warcraft lore may actually ends after WoW. I think at the last expand of WoW(the one after MoP) Saregas is gonna get his butt kicked by some random people :D
Terran
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
November 15 2011 11:51 GMT
#26
On November 15 2011 08:50 Voxae wrote:
I feel like they made everything too easy to get - things used to be that you work from one tier to another, and content was actually hard to clear. Now they made it so that 10-man raids can acquire items that are also acquired from 25-man raids (just in less quantity), and it just feels like everything is easier to accomplish, and with less people.

You should try raiding with 10 before you say its easier to do

no joke
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Prev 1 2 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
12:00
King of the Hill #256
WardiTV888
EmpressLilyy43
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ByuN 440
ProTech78
Harstem 1
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 3756
Shuttle 1590
EffOrt 1088
Mini 581
Soma 499
Light 363
BeSt 333
Larva 235
hero 211
Stork 168
[ Show more ]
actioN 130
Dewaltoss 124
Last 115
JYJ 114
Sea.KH 62
Free 58
Mind 53
910 41
Sharp 41
soO 36
Sexy 35
Shine 30
ToSsGirL 30
Sacsri 26
Rock 19
HiyA 16
IntoTheRainbow 15
zelot 12
yabsab 11
Barracks 0
firebathero 0
Dota 2
Gorgc4841
Dendi1270
syndereN374
420jenkins209
Counter-Strike
fl0m3833
byalli967
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King122
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor404
Liquid`Hasu398
Other Games
singsing1720
B2W.Neo1384
Happy231
ToD204
elazer156
amsayoshi40
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 12
lovetv 12
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Response 1
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 4
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1649
• Nemesis1273
Other Games
• WagamamaTV543
Upcoming Events
Online Event
7m
killerbeecast3
WardiTV Weekly
20h 7m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 19h
INu's Battles
1d 20h
Cure vs herO
ByuN vs Rogue
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
Patches Events
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
CrankTV Team League
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
ByuN vs SHIN
Solar vs Lambo
WardiTV Summer Champion…
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Clem vs Serral
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Summer Champion…
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E3

Ongoing

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W5
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #2
Acropolis #5
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.