Hi I noticed that there are quite a few people who make electronic music and many more who likes it.
I've been learning music for 7 years and making some guitar music for some time (sample link in spoilers)+ Show Spoiler +
Not really satisfied with 2 and 3 yet.
and I'm really interested in getting into electronic music after listening to listening back to to Hybrid Theory one day, and I while I was going through the album this song really caught me
Cure for the Itch
I had to listen to it over and over again, changing my perception of electronic music which to me were generally boring repetitive crap made by people (thieves) who don't know anything about music. Then, I frantically searched for their other albums for Joe Hahn's showcase song and I all I got was this other one:
and Session
Already inspired by an accidental discovery of Richard Jenkees + Show Spoiler +
recently reading the comments on a "Sound of Rain w/o music" video on Youtube, I now am very excited in anticipation of my sem break so that I can explore more into this type of music.
So, almighthy TL electronica lovers, can you guide a newbie like me into your world? :D
For now all I know is that I'll be needing to use programs like FlStudio or Cubase with some VSTs and a midi Keyboard. My first plan is to make something like those 2 tracks by Joe Hahn, without any sampling (if that's possible). I'll come up with something else for the scratching parts. Unless you can help me with that too of course :D . Not keen on getting 1 of those 16 button sampling machines because I have no money and I think I can use computer to cut the samples and program the keyboard for that right?
Also,
Can someone please recommend me/PM me similar artists/songs to those 2 Joe Hahn and Ronald Jenkees songs please? Something like this with crazy non-repetitive, sometimes unpredictable rhythm/syncopations? I've been looking for quite some time (looked up Drums and Bass) but nothing comes close.
The hardest part is to learn and master your studio software. Knowing how to translate your inspiration into the software is the most important part, mastering your studio software is exactly like mastering your musical instrument. So just pick one and learn it to the max and DON'T install everything. They're all doing the same thing, pick one and master it. Fruityloops studio is good (from beginning to advanced). Yes, you can use your keyboard to replace any instrument you like. When I started I used the mouse wheel to record live midi knobs patterns because I only had that ^^
I can't help you about the rest, sorry.
edit : oh, try Fila Brazilia, they have some albums that are like the music you're looking for.
On November 14 2011 23:01 MrCon wrote: The hardest part is to learn and master your studio software. Knowing how to translate your inspiration into the software is the most important part, mastering your studio software is exactly like mastering your musical instrument. So just pick one and learn it to the max. Fruityloops studio is good (from beginning to advanced). Yes, you can use your keyboard to replace any instrument you like. When I started I used the mouse wheel to record live midi knobs patterns because I only had that ^^
I can't help you about the rest, sorry.
This. The worst feeling i've ever felt in the entire world is having an amazing idea for a song but having no idea how to make it work in the software, and then forgetting the idea forever.
On November 14 2011 23:01 MrCon wrote: The hardest part is to learn and master your studio software. Knowing how to translate your inspiration into the software is the most important part, mastering your studio software is exactly like mastering your musical instrument. So just pick one and learn it to the max and DON'T install everything. They're all doing the same thing, pick one and master it. Fruityloops studio is good (from beginning to advanced). Yes, you can use your keyboard to replace any instrument you like. When I started I used the mouse wheel to record live midi knobs patterns because I only had that ^^
I can't help you about the rest, sorry.
edit : oh, try Fila Brazilia, they have some albums that are like the music you're looking for.
What's a live midi knob pattern? Actually I was planning to buy a MIDI keyboard (ESI KeyControl 49 ?) But a computer keyboard sounds good too in the meantime :D
Thanks for the suggestions everyone. One of my solutions to making sure I don't forget my ideas will be to either sing them out or play it with my guitar/piano or even knock on stuff and record them :D Actually I already do it all the time with acoustic music.
@ MrCon or everyone else Do you mind posting/ spamming my inbox with some Fila Brazillia that sounds similar? Just listened to DNA and sounded great, but I also want to find that particular sound like Joe Hahn's. Looked them up on wikipedia and I guess the genre I should be looking for is breakbeat?
@popzags hi :D Those aren't bad but I'm really looking for something like the 2 ones I posted!!!
@Klesky Yah Ronald Jenkees is really really good. He doesn't know how to read music or theory. You've got to listen to all of his stuff
If you are serious about making some music, I have a few recommendations for you.
First off, don't go into it with the idea of making music for other people. Start by writing stuff that YOU like, and take pride in it. Get a soundcloud account, and upload all the stuff you make so you can share it. The soundcloud community is awesome, and they have really helped to evolve my sound.
Don't get discouraged. Sometimes you'll be working on something and it just won't come out the way you want it to sound. Practice makes perfect. Nobody nailed the violin the first month they handled it. Pick one synth and learn the shit out of it. My synth of choice is Massive by Native Insturments.
Fruity Loops is probably the easiest virtual studio to start learning on, and gets better the more you learn about it. (IMO)
Don't pirate the software It's expensive, but the updates/support and everything you get from a licensed copy is really worth it.
I've been playing around with FL and what not for years, but I only started really trying to learn the program and make decent samples for about 8 months. Most of what I've made is shite (for real, it's fuckin garbage) but the more I learn, the better it starts to sound.
Don't judge too harshly, but you can kind of see the progression from rubbish to lesser-rubbish in my music http://soundcloud.com/hack-omikron (start from the bottom and work your way up)
Like I said, practice makes perfect. Also, collaborate with friends :D
On November 15 2011 01:40 HackBenjamin wrote: Hi there,
If you are serious about making some music, I have a few recommendations for you.
First off, don't go into it with the idea of making music for other people. Start by writing stuff that YOU like, and take pride in it. Get a soundcloud account, and upload all the stuff you make so you can share it. The soundcloud community is awesome, and they have really helped to evolve my sound.
Don't get discouraged. Sometimes you'll be working on something and it just won't come out the way you want it to sound. Practice makes perfect. Nobody nailed the violin the first month they handled it. Pick one synth and learn the shit out of it. My synth of choice is Massive by Native Insturments.
Fruity Loops is probably the easiest virtual studio to start learning on, and gets better the more you learn about it. (IMO)
Don't pirate the software It's expensive, but the updates/support and everything you get from a licensed copy is really worth it.
I've been playing around with FL and what not for years, but I only started really trying to learn the program and make decent samples for about 8 months. Most of what I've made is shite (for real, it's fuckin garbage) but the more I learn, the better it starts to sound.
Don't judge too harshly, but you can kind of see the progression from rubbish to lesser-rubbish in my music http://soundcloud.com/hack-omikron (start from the bottom and work your way up)
Like I said, practice makes perfect. Also, collaborate with friends :D
How has soundcloud evolved your sound? I don't see anyone posting any comments on your songs. In the beginning of the Project 1 I was thinking ahhhh this typical crap again but aroudn halfway I had a smile on my face :D There's potential there :D
Thanks for the advice about spending time on learning synths. I'll get the program 1 day. Just saved for a keyboard and Since it's already expensive for you, I'll have to pay more than triple what you paid because of the exchange rate
Don't worry about the trying hard part. I've been playing the guitar for 7 years and just spent a lot of time learning some piano and harmonica. I know what it takes to learn something like this. :D
Btw I think that you should never stop writing stuff that you like, not just to start out :D
It's not about the comments I get a lot of feedback from the groups I join on Soundcloud, the people on my Facebook/Twitter/G+ I share it with, etc. Plus, the fact that people could randomly listen to it sort of makes me want to make better tunes, and I think that's what I mean when I talk about the difference between making songs for yourself and then making them for other people;
I mostly want to point out the difference between Project 1 and Ruthless or Eclipse, or even P1 and P3. Huge differences in the sound, and I can thank a couple of really good guys on Soundcloud for their feedback on said tracks
ah groups... never know of their existence... Thanks. Of course there will be a difference in 8 months, otherwise you're either lazy or stupid :D I can see the improvements there
I really liked the basic structure and progression of the strings into the 2nd half of Project 1. Don't drop that idea yet.
But do you know what genre Cure for the Itch and Session are?
On November 14 2011 23:01 MrCon wrote: The hardest part is to learn and master your studio software. Knowing how to translate your inspiration into the software is the most important part, mastering your studio software is exactly like mastering your musical instrument. So just pick one and learn it to the max and DON'T install everything. They're all doing the same thing, pick one and master it. Fruityloops studio is good (from beginning to advanced). Yes, you can use your keyboard to replace any instrument you like. When I started I used the mouse wheel to record live midi knobs patterns because I only had that ^^
I can't help you about the rest, sorry.
edit : oh, try Fila Brazilia, they have some albums that are like the music you're looking for.
What's a live midi knob pattern? Actually I was planning to buy a MIDI keyboard (ESI KeyControl 49 ?) But a computer keyboard sounds good too in the meantime :D
Thanks for the suggestions everyone. One of my solutions to making sure I don't forget my ideas will be to either sing them out or play it with my guitar/piano or even knock on stuff and record them :D Actually I already do it all the time with acoustic music.
@ MrCon or everyone else Do you mind posting/ spamming my inbox with some Fila Brazillia that sounds similar? Just listened to DNA and sounded great, but I also want to find that particular sound like Joe Hahn's. Looked them up on wikipedia and I guess the genre I should be looking for is breakbeat?
@popzags hi :D Those aren't bad but I'm really looking for something like the 2 ones I posted!!!
@Klesky Yah Ronald Jenkees is really really good. He doesn't know how to read music or theory. You've got to listen to all of his stuff
Well I'm bad in english so perhaps it wasn't clear =) On most midi instrument you have some knobs (is that even the right word ? it's this :
the rotating buttons on top and bottom right of the pic)
But I didn't have any instrument so I used my mousewheel, mapped to a midi port, to record midi tracks simulating a "knob") For Fila Brazillia, just youtube it and browse, I listened this for more than 10 years and you'll have to go into their 1995-2005 tracks to find it iirc. I don't remember any specific track name, sorry
Just done a search, that's a really wide and even experimental range. Closest I ever got to what I want, but not quite yet, I'll keep looking
On November 15 2011 03:13 MrCon wrote: But I didn't have any instrument so I used my mousewheel, mapped to a midi port, to record midi tracks simulating a "knob") For Fila Brazillia, just youtube it and browse, I listened this for more than 10 years and you'll have to go into their 1995-2005 tracks to find it iirc. I don't remember any specific track name, sorry
Ah I'd never have though of using the mouse wheel that way :D
When you remember a particular song please PM me. Meanwhile, I'll keep listening :D
ableton live is so good for electronic music. posting your shit on soundcloud is nice too, but it can be a circlejerk where you get no good real feedback. gl!
EPT
It's expensive, but the updates/support and everything you get from a licensed copy is really worth it.
but the more I learn, the better it starts to sound.
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