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ahmyyyyd
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Germany47 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-15 12:25:36
November 13 2011 16:04 GMT
#1
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Hey guys,



my name is Ahmad Mirza aka BlackRa and im a Protoss. I got placed in platnum this season and i now its my goal to reach the diamond league.
Im Training very hard for SC2, because i fell in love with the game and i want to be suscessfull in it(not a pro but maybe masters )

Im Training everyday which includes laddering and replay analysis.
I will ladder everyday and i will post my replays and short summarys of the game here.

I hope some of you can give me tipps, so that i can improve my game


Add me if you want: Blackra.937 EU
PS: if someone want to coach me for free please do xD xD xD


Day 1 : 13.11.2011

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http://drop.sc/58403
vs Zerg
Rank: 13
Points: 258
Wins : 44
Map: Antiga Shipyard

We Played Cross Position and I started off with a 13 Forge 16 Nexus. After That Canon Gateway Canon(yeah i love to play save xD) . I added Both of my Gases, started +1 and added a twillight Council. My Goal was it to kill his 3th with a 7 Gate +2 Blink Timing. But Yeah it didnt worked very well. As the Warpgate tech finishs i get supplyblocked. So My warpin is Delayed i go up to his 3. get surrounded by Lings and Roaches, and he kills my push. Now im very far behind. I try to add my 3rd but he kills it. With the help of blink and canons im able to stay alive against his counterpush with mass roach. Behind That im adding a Fleet Beacon and a Mothership. But he added fucking mutalisks and kills 42 ProbesO_O. I hate Mutas xD. I Massed Up an Army for a Final Push but he already had broodloards and easily killed me .
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http://drop.sc/58462
vs Zerg

Rank 39
Points: 23
wins:3
map: Shakuras Plateau

Hey, The Zerg Played Hatch first and I Played Nexus First. But This time I was adding 2 more gateways, because i wanted to try the KiwiKaki Zealot Rush Build. It Worked Incredbly Well and I was Able To kill his 3th. Hatchry. My Follow Up of this Should be a 7 Gate +1 Push. At First It Failed because while i was moving out i got souronded by Lings. I lost all my Centrys. So I decided to take my 3rd while Pressuring the Zerg. I Won most of my engagements with some decent forcefield and I was able to kill the Zerg´s new 3rd and keeping him on 2 Base. Behind that i researched Blink And I Added some Immortals in my Mix. The Final engagement was easy because I simply Outmacroed him

Notice:
Have to work on my Macro. Supplyblocks

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http://drop.sc/58403

vs Zerg
Rank:4
points:306
wins:41
map:Antiga Shipyard

This time I opened with a 1 gate stargate expand. While Expanding I harrased with Phenix and i was able to kill something like 2 queens and 10 workers. While harrasing and keeping the Zerg on his side I added my 3th Base, a Fleet Beacon, 2 extra Stargates and some gates. I Added A Mothership and started to build a big deathball of Voidrays Carrier Collosi and Mothership. I was able to hold the hydra corrupter Push Of the Zerg and after that it was very easy to kill him. I like this Style but macroeng with it is very hard. (10k overminerals)

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vs Terran
Rank:1
Map: Antiga Shipyard

God thanks a Pvt. By far my best matchup. I opened Nexus first and i was able to hold of his 2 rax easily. After that I tried something new. I added a tripple Forge and a Robo. My main Unitcomposition should be zealot centry immortal Archon. After Defending his Double Drop I added my 3rd and just played it down. At the end my 3-3-3 army won against his 0-1 army.

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I went from Rank 50 to Rank 46 ... More laddering tomorrow


day 2: 15.11.2011



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brachester
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia1786 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-13 16:23:49
November 13 2011 16:22 GMT
#2
why cant you create thread in blogs?
Anyway, use 1single one base all in build until you get to diamond to get familiar with the "units relationship", then expand to other build. At least that's what i did back when i moved from plat to diamond. Because let's face it, plat players usually doesn't have much knowledge to gain any helpful information from their loss replay and doesn't have the understanding to be able to do a variety of build. So it is best just study and master 1 solid all-in build first.

P.S. Noticed your battle.net name, "Whitera's fanboy detected"
I hate all this singing
Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
November 13 2011 16:57 GMT
#3
Man I guarantee you that if keep 4gating every single game you'll get to Diamond. It's all in the matter of how well you perform you 4 Gate and how intelligently you follow it up. There's probably people out there who do the same thing to get from Diamond to Masters.
Steelavocado
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2123 Posts
November 13 2011 17:09 GMT
#4
My advice is to not cheese your way into masters or use 4 gates etc. You will get into diamond then get destroyed most of the time if you dont have some sort of macro or mechanic part of your game.
MIRACLE IS YOUR TI7 CHAMP
Saiton
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden467 Posts
November 13 2011 17:10 GMT
#5
On November 14 2011 01:57 Snuggles wrote:
Man I guarantee you that if keep 4gating every single game you'll get to Diamond. It's all in the matter of how well you perform you 4 Gate and how intelligently you follow it up. There's probably people out there who do the same thing to get from Diamond to Masters.


But 4-gating isn't going to make him a better player. Against Master players he will eventually start losing alot because he has no followup.
Top diamond terran streaming at http://www.twitch.tv/saitontv
ahmyyyyd
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Germany47 Posts
November 13 2011 17:15 GMT
#6
yeah i love macrogames and I want to improve it. Sure i could All in every single game but it isn´t my style^^.
First Game Posted^^
ahmyyyyd
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Germany47 Posts
November 13 2011 17:17 GMT
#7
On November 14 2011 01:22 brachester wrote:
why cant you create thread in blogs?
Anyway, use 1single one base all in build until you get to diamond to get familiar with the "units relationship", then expand to other build. At least that's what i did back when i moved from plat to diamond. Because let's face it, plat players usually doesn't have much knowledge to gain any helpful information from their loss replay and doesn't have the understanding to be able to do a variety of build. So it is best just study and master 1 solid all-in build first.

P.S. Noticed your battle.net name, "Whitera's fanboy detected"


actually im not a whiti fanboy xD it was a bet which i lost to a friend O_O so i had to change my name xD
Spray
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States402 Posts
November 13 2011 17:49 GMT
#8
from the picture it seems you could have blinked into the corner and then FF'd...you had 5 sentrys nearly full of energy. did you not have blink? and why didnt you FF in your first engagment?
HuK Fighting~~!
topschutter
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands93 Posts
November 13 2011 18:27 GMT
#9
Why u make 3 pylons when u attack, near the same place, 1 is enough. And u really had to forcefield way earlier in ur first attack, then u would have been fine i think.
ahmyyyyd
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Germany47 Posts
November 13 2011 18:47 GMT
#10
On November 14 2011 03:27 topschutter wrote:
Why u make 3 pylons when u attack, near the same place, 1 is enough. And u really had to forcefield way earlier in ur first attack, then u would have been fine i think.


because i accidently supplyblocked me so i just spammed pylons there xD

thanks for the feedback Game 2 Is up <3
topschutter
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands93 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-13 20:36:00
November 13 2011 20:26 GMT
#11
Why dont u make two gateways first and then ur forge? You dont even make a cannon, when forge finished so seems not neccesary. The second push i find a bit weird, u lost alot imo, then u go in the open field so its hard to get good forcefields Also u are attacking and containing him, but u do make 4 or 5 cannons to defend ur thrid seems a bit odd. I would think u might wanna go something tech earlier (if he would have gone hydra you would have a hard time defending. You had 6 gateways quite a long time not in warp gate mode.

Note: not everything (like the forge first) HAS to be bad, it just seems bad to me (im 37 rank diamond protoss on EU). Hope it helps u a bit, gl to get to diamond!
ahmyyyyd
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Germany47 Posts
November 13 2011 20:42 GMT
#12
On November 14 2011 05:26 topschutter wrote:
Why dont u make two gateways first and then ur forge? You dont even make a cannon, when forge finished so seems not neccesary. The second push i find a bit weird, u lost alot imo, then u go in the open field so its hard to get good forcefields Also u are attacking and containing him, but u do make 4 or 5 cannons to defend ur thrid seems a bit odd. I would think u might wanna go something tech earlier (if he would have gone hydra you would have a hard time defending. You had 6 gateways quite a long time not in warp gate mode.

Note: not everything (like the forge first) HAS to be bad, it just seems bad to me (im 37 rank diamond protoss on EU). Hope it helps u a bit, gl to get to diamond!


the forge was as a backup plan if he goes early roaches . And yeah the 5 canons where because i like to play save xD. I always add some cannons vs zerg xD...

Thanks for your critism

G3 is Up
topschutter
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands93 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-13 21:02:40
November 13 2011 21:01 GMT
#13
You're thrid match seems really lucky. You expand with 1 zealot (if he just went baneling/ling u would have lost, even with only lings you would have lost expo + 2 pylons + forge + probes + units). Then u have really lot of time no units and no cannons at the beginning (except couple of phoenix). U scouted pretty late, what if he went mass muta? That seems a pretty good counter against ur void rays and collosus.

That u had lots of money doesnt really matter cause u were maxed, it would be a good idea to get lots of gateways (remax is pretty easy then) and upgrade with two cyber core and 3 forge (or two ).

Do love the style of voidray/mothership/collosus, i usually dont go air cause of the seperate upgrades. I tend to got ht/dt after collosus, with some void rays if i go harass early with stargate.

(btw the link to replay is wrong ).

gg! :D

EDIT damn every time i finish taking look at ur game another game is uploaded xD
ahmyyyyd
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Germany47 Posts
November 13 2011 21:01 GMT
#14
last game of the day is up
ahmyyyyd
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Germany47 Posts
November 13 2011 21:07 GMT
#15
On November 14 2011 06:01 topschutter wrote:
You're thrid match seems really lucky. You expand with 1 zealot (if he just went baneling/ling u would have lost, even with only lings you would have lost expo + 2 pylons + forge + probes + units). Then u have really lot of time no units and no cannons at the beginning (except couple of phoenix). U scouted pretty late, what if he went mass muta? That seems a pretty good counter against ur void rays and collosus.

That u had lots of money doesnt really matter cause u were maxed, it would be a good idea to get lots of gateways (remax is pretty easy then) and upgrade with two cyber core and 3 forge (or two ).

Do love the style of voidray/mothership/collosus, i usually dont go air cause of the seperate upgrades. I tend to got ht/dt after collosus, with some void rays if i go harass early with stargate.

(btw the link to replay is wrong ).

gg! :D

EDIT damn every time i finish taking look at ur game another game is uploaded xD



hehe

thanks for the tipps actually i just love the mothership :D so i thought... why dont try air heavy play ... and yeah i know that i played not save xD
hope you like my pvt more

thank you <3 <3 <3
topschutter
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands93 Posts
November 13 2011 21:13 GMT
#16
PvT is great! :D Got to say pretty solid game, triple forge must better now with the patch.
Maybe put down also fourth gateway, you had the mins? Another risky game with expand first, but like it. And you might want to use your chrono earlier on gate or cyber

im out
gl :D.

ahmyyyyd
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Germany47 Posts
November 13 2011 21:15 GMT
#17
On November 14 2011 06:13 topschutter wrote:
PvT is great! :D Got to say pretty solid game, triple forge must better now with the patch.
Maybe put down also fourth gateway, you had the mins? Another risky game with expand first, but like it. And you might want to use your chrono earlier on gate or cyber

im out
gl :D.




thank you

and yeah i know i had the money^^ but in a fight my money always starts to go up :S I have to train that

JMC4
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States261 Posts
November 14 2011 01:09 GMT
#18
Being a Protoss player who has gone from Plat to Masters I would advise you do 3 specific builds (1 for each matchup) and use them until you have them down good. Then start expanding off of that.
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