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Hi,
I’m starting a Starcraft 2 stream and I am still wondering what kind of niche I should go for.
Since the launch of the game I have been playing mainly team games and have achieved a certain degree of success in doing so.
I can pull off some good early pushes, my macro is okay and it almost looks like I’m microing sometimes.
I am under the impression that there is a very limited demand for team game streams and I am contemplating going for mainly 1v1 and some team games thrown in for fun.
I like a lot of different types of music and would love to share this passion while playing. Will I shy away any viewer I could get by not playing only dubstep on my stream?
Also, I am not awful, but I would say I am probably pretty bad and have no experience on the field in 1v1 games (even tough I watched thousand of pro games), I know people will tell me how bad I am, is there anyway that I can incorporate my lack of skill and experience to enhance the quality and appeal of my stream?
I would love to use this opportunity to better my public speaking skills; I own a webcam and a nice quality microphone. Is it frowned upon for someone other than Day9 to put my webcam fullscreen for a minute or two to make a nice introduction and maybe discuss a few subjects related to my stream or the community in general?
Please let me know your tough on what might be lacking in the stream scene. I don’t really mind going for something a little goofy or humoristic, as long as it is legal and won’t get me banned. I also have no issues going for a particular type of viewer.
At this point the ideas I had were the following:
-Smooth late night radio show voice
-Groovy jazz, stoner rock and experimental electronic music (Probably with some pop and dubstep)
-Webcam always on
-Microphone on at some times at the beginning of the stream and between games
-Some not so sober streaming, but without marketing my stream as a drunk/high as balls stream
-Having some viewers come in and play with me
TL;DR: Help me put up a good show on my stream
PreciousPrecious
 
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I like the music you listed. And not sober streaming. I'd advise having the microphone on during the game so you can rage at things, people like that. Or dropping a small comment here and there. "Need expo." "Need to push now." :D
Good voice is always a plus.
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To be perfectly honest, the only people that really make it big as streamers are either:
1. Amazing players (E.g. IdrA)
2. Entertaining players (E.g. Destiny)
3. Casters (incl. analysts)
4. Talk shows. This is definitely the trickiest of them all. You must bring something new to the table and you must already have some sort of community presence in order to 'make it big.' (E.g. djWheat, Day9)
However, if you're goal isn't something as extravagant as Weapon of Choice or State of the Game, then just be yourself. Be entertaining, have fun. If you don't have fun there is absolutely no way that your viewers will have fun. For this reason, no matter what you're doing, make it fun or good, as those are the biggest influences to make people watch your show.
Also, pertaining to how you stated no one wants to see you play teams, if you can find a 2v2 partner that is really fun to play with, I'm sure if you two have fun while doing well, other people will enjoy watching it. Make sure you two are communicating via. mic so that people can hear an animated conversation and feel included in what's happening.
Good luck! 
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On November 09 2011 22:21 PreciousPrecious wrote:
I’m starting a Starcraft 2 stream and I am still wondering what kind of niche I should go for.
Whatever you are going for, it needs to be genuine and show personality.
Otherwise why would anyone watch someone who isn't a pro player?
The content in itself don't really matter I think ... that is, if you are not basically GM level on EU / US or high high master in KR, no one will be watching your stream mainly to learn how to play (it might be a side benefit, but it won't keep people coming back, unlike say - Stephano, White-Ra, Jinro, etc).
So my recommendation would be to simply always have webcam on, be yourself, and do something on stream that you enjoy and try to share your passion with whoever checks out the stream.
Whether it is mass laddering, trolling, talking shit about world politics (I would watch for that, weird that I am) while playing, showing off unique music and discussing it ... whatever ... make sure you are not coming off as fake, or desperately trying to be entertaining.
It's much easier to be entertaining when you are genuinely enjoying something and spreading your passion for it
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Be the nicheless niche stream.
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Estonia4644 Posts
please dont play dubstep
thats the main reason i mute and/or turn off streams these days, pro or not
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On November 09 2011 22:58 zakmaa wrote:
1. Amazing players (E.g. IdrA)
I see what you did there
OT: Make sure there's a person behind the stream. You can only get away with not talking/commenting at all if you're amazing. Players like Destiny got to where they are because they're entertainers alongside being pretty good at the game. If Destiny didn't talk and make his stream fun, there's very little chance he'd be featured nowadays. Much less get THOUSANDS of viewers like he does.
(Not a destiny hate message, I'm a fan ^^)
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- One idea i always had was race wars. Like you keep track of wins by race in a showmatch series. Viewers could vote from a selection of players who want to be the races' representative each week. Persistant advantages such as mapchoice or something minor could be awarded to the leading race, or a handicap for the race behind in the matchup.
- You could have a segment where you bring up gamer or non-PC person and explain SC2 to them, how to play it and or how to watch it. Would be a good excercise for you personally as well could be entertaining.
Other than that i really think you should really do broad brainstorming and think out of the box a bit. Do something really different, if you can, me personally i wont watch "another" stream where i can see what everybody else allready does.
Do something just different and just see how it works, i think Day9's advice of just doing it is the most important when starting such a thing.
Is there maybe something about Starcraft 2 that only you do in that way, or a way to look at it that is very you?
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Play better.
I don't watch a stream if the player isn't at least decent. I don't care how good the quality is, how much I like to music, or how well it's set up (the in thing now is to have some sort of overlay that shows what song is playing, which is nice). As a side note I think kpop and dubstep are easily the most overplayed genres on streams, I have to mute if i'm watching, which hurts if you plan on doing commentary. I'm not a fan of jazz but it's much easier on the ears. I highly don't recommend anything like a talk show or analysis, for the simple fact that I don't want to listen to advice from a bad player. There's a talk show that some people are doing like every other day or something for an hour, but I don't watch it because I'd rather watch sotg, and they talk about the same things.
If you're streaming sc2, please play lots of sc2. The way that top streamers get away with idling and doing other things is really dumb.
The main point: Masters league minimum. Most people don't even bother on clicking on any links unless they're promised good play at least. From there work on the actual stream quality, music selection, overlays, lag issues, how often you stream, and a talkative personality.
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Master league or higher for me. Just make it awesome, have a lot of interaction with your viewers. If you're entertaining you'll catch on. Having some groovy jazz would be GOOD though, in league of legends there is a streamer called Guardsman Bob. He never rages, plays at a very mediocre level, but his choice of music is great. I like jazz more than classic rock, but his music is the main reason people watch his stream. He gets like 5K viewers.
Harder in SC2 because people are more focussed on improving, though.
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Good idea is to try and get to GM, that icon/color gives even the angriest of critics some respect, then you just put in whatever and make it your own.
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Have a personality. That's all. I contend that a hilarious bronze league player would rake in TONS of view. In fact, being bronze could, in itself, feed a certain kind of personality. Imagine something like Debo doing his "I don't need to save my cloak", only in much worse ways, but doing it in a way that's hilarious.
Part of what made early Destiny funny was how he was raging, even though he was losing because he was playing poorly.
Destiny himself has said it a lot, but, for most people, the key to a successful stream is going to be your personality.
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Thank you everyone who posted, you gave me a good understanding of what makes a good stream good.
Here is what I'm keeping as liners to build my concept upon:
-Don't try too hard to be good, because I never will be and even if I do, no one cares unless I'm GM
-Be yourself
-Having a webcam and a mic turned on all the time will definitely help, and commentating-slash-talking as I play will have people coming back to my stream
-NO DUBSTEP ALLOWED!!!
-Streaming a lot, streaming often and play games while I'm streaming(that one seems obvious now that it's written out)
I have a crazy idea, I have been overexposed the the GoSC (girls of Starcraft), as my gilfriend plays SC2 and I've noticed that TL has a gay community. How about a stream that would have a special appeal to those two communities?
Has anyone streamed games shirtless in a consistent fashion?
PreciousPrecious
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Don't know if that's allowed (shirtless). Nudity is against twitch tv's policy I think.
I don't think relying on a minority is a good idea.
edit: also, don't sign your posts. you have the signature section for that. Tl admins, most users and I dislike it.
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