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IntoTheWow
is awesome32282 Posts
Yeah, except STX never makes it into the Playoffs LOL! :3 | ||
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BroodWarHD
136 Posts
Well youre wrong, unfortunately. Its the highest rated RTS game of all time, whatever site you go to. Its like complaining about Godfather, Pulp Fiction, or Beatles not being good. Sure you can complain, but that doesnt make you right. | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On October 31 2011 16:00 Ideas wrote: then what game DOES have "the magic"? Sums my thoughts up pretty well, you don't even compare it to another game - but to watching super bowl and not the regular season... that's the same as only watching the finals of SPL, SWL, MSl and OSL - you're missing out. And you further fuck your point up by saying that's its only because they have followed the scene for so long. I've started watching pro BW since 3-4 years ago and I was just as convinced back then as I am now To me it seems your arguement is that we think this game is fucking awesome and is praise worthy over everything else... but that it's nothing special? What are you trying to prove? That BW is inferior? To what? SC2? You can think that (or whaterver you think is superior to BW). But why the hella re you wasting your time trying to get us to not think so? What's your point? | ||
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chaosTheory_14cc
Canada1270 Posts
On October 31 2011 16:23 heyoka wrote: TL wouldn't exist if this was true. Its not some weird oddity that the most passionate gaming community on the internet exists for "this one game that is like every other". You know why we have comprehensive resources that detail the entire history of our game, literally every single recorded match, and you can't find shit about WC3 history or how CS evolved or Daigo's career win-loss record? It's not an accident. My sentiments exactly. As other people have already stated, some people didn't join until just a few years ago and can still find the magic that BW holds; including myself. This blog is just plain silly. | ||
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
when you talk about sc2 and regular stuff people say that your opinion is irrelevant and nobody cares. But as soon as you start talking about bw everybody is going nuts about it and treats you like you were some kind of new york times journalist that just released an article saying eSports is fake. I don't get it, if RedJustice's opinion is so irrelevant, why do people still feel the need to talk about it? Can't you just say "I think you are wrong, sorry." and leave it like that? o.o' | ||
GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On October 31 2011 23:19 KeksX wrote: Whats funny about all this is, when you talk about sc2 and regular stuff people say that your opinion is irrelevant and nobody cares. But as soon as you start talking about bw everybody is going nuts about it and treats you like you were some kind of new york times journalist that just released an article saying eSports is fake. I don't get it, if RedJustice's opinion is so irrelevant, why do people still feel the need to talk about it? Can't you just say "I think you are wrong, sorry." and leave it like that? o.o' Because we care, because we have passion, because we want to make people understand, give them a chance to participate in playing and understanding the greatest game ever to be played. Because if the OP goes back, watches an OSL with the ideas expressed in this thread playing around his head and enjoys it, and becomes a passionate BW fan, we've done our job. Even if it doesn't work, we have to give him the chance. That's why we will always, always defend BW when it is attacked, because we care, and we want others to care too. | ||
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ninini
Sweden1204 Posts
On October 31 2011 22:15 Velr wrote: Please stop protecting the BW pathfinding. Some units being nearly unable to move down a choke or other narrow pass is NOT good (but this being different would probably alter SC/BW's balance quite a bit ^^). The Magicboxing/lose formations are good... But the path finding? Horrible :D.. You just get used to it but be honest for a moment... If you would play a new game with that Pathfinding nowadays you would never stop complaining ^^. WC3 seemed like a nice mix of SC/BW and SC2 when it comes to the path finding/boxing... The only problem I've had with the pathing is if I want to move a unit down a ramp and it's blocked, then the unit can react a bit unexpectedly and try to find another exit, even though it doesn't exist, but the moment the blocking unit moves, the unit up the ramp will find the way out without you having to reenter the move command. Ideally, the unit would move towards the blocking unit and wait for it to move, but him running around for a while doesn't really bother me. The pathing in BW isn't as bad as ppl think and it's definately better than in SC2 imo, where everything just move like blobs. The AI can be a bit stupid when units are moving out of range, like goliaths against Carriers, but if they "fixed" that issue there would be other "issues". Some ppl also complain about no smart aiming. But that would just make siege tanks overpowered and doesn't really add anything, and it doesn't really make sense either in terms of realism. On October 31 2011 22:37 Velr wrote: It is every unit that has the size of a Gholiat or more (which is many?). It is extremly bad. Seriously, when your used to it you don't notice it that much because you begin to construct your whole base with the AI in mind... If you're not used to it (anymore) it's bad, really, really bad. There is absolutely no reason why you would have to construct your base with the AI in mind, the only thing I can think of (although it has nothing to do with AI) is scv's or produced units getting stuck between buildings, but that's called sloppy building placements and can happen in most rts games. | ||
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
On October 31 2011 23:24 GMarshal wrote: Because we care, because we have passion, because we want to make people understand, give them a chance to participate in playing and understanding the greatest game ever to be played. Because if the OP goes back, watches an OSL with the ideas expressed in this thread playing around his head and enjoys it, and becomes a passionate BW fan, we've done our job. Even if it doesn't work, we have to give him the chance. That's why we will always, always defend BW when it is attacked, because we care, and we want others to care too. I know that and I clearly understand it, I think BW is awesome, too. Really. I wasn't talking about all this passion etc not being justified... It's just...No offense to her, really, but she is just some random girl saying that she doesn't "feel the magic". And there are thousands of hundreds people out there who say the same stuff - will you go out and "teach them your ways"? | ||
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Schplyok
64 Posts
Broodwar isn't broken. A broken game is one that has a dominant strategy. When a game has a dominant strategy it degenerates - no one uses any other strategies besides the dominant one. Sometimes when the game is complex enough (all RTS games basically) it may take a very long time to discover a dominant strategy. An you can totally have fun with a broken game until you find a dominant strategy. Remember AOE2? Fun, right? Well, it's broken. Everyone who plays it competitively uses huns. Imagine Broodwar big in Korea and everyone playing zerg. Sounds stupid. That's why Broodwar is big and other games aren't. I don't think there are any RTS games besides Broodwar that are proven not broken, yet. | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51702 Posts
On October 31 2011 23:32 KeksX wrote: I know that and I clearly understand it, I think BW is awesome, too. Really. I wasn't talking about all this passion etc not being justified... It's just...No offense to her, really, but she is just some random girl saying that she doesn't "feel the magic". And there are thousands of hundreds people out there who say the same stuff - will you go out and "teach them your ways"? I'm just happy that she actually tried everything and formed her own opinion,to me thats fine. I would love to teach people our ways,have you seen that thread? the dude comes back within 4 hours after he posts the thread going, "OMG OMG OMG the passion is amazing!!!!" he found the magic  I'd love it if everyone was like him and the OP who actually formed their own opinions,but you can't teach those who don't want to learn. | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On October 31 2011 23:32 KeksX wrote: I know that and I clearly understand it, I think BW is awesome, too. Really. I wasn't talking about all this passion etc not being justified... It's just...No offense to her, really, but she is just some random girl saying that she doesn't "feel the magic". And there are thousands of hundreds people out there who say the same stuff - will you go out and "teach them your ways"? If I get the chance? Yes, absolutely! I'm not going to way out of my way to correct everyone who disagrees with me, but when I stumble upon an opportunity to express my thoughts on something I care about, why would I hold back? ^_^ | ||
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Sephy90
United States1785 Posts
On October 31 2011 23:32 KeksX wrote: I know that and I clearly understand it, I think BW is awesome, too. Really. I wasn't talking about all this passion etc not being justified... It's just...No offense to her, really, but she is just some random girl saying that she doesn't "feel the magic". And there are thousands of hundreds people out there who say the same stuff - will you go out and "teach them your ways"? If we didn't do this, then what's the point in ever posting lol. We all have some sort of reason to post but I understand where you're coming from completely, usually I just ignore it but sometimes it's nice to just chat/rant/argue/discuss and what not :D:D | ||
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
On October 31 2011 16:37 Rekrul wrote: Feel free to try again if you want. | ||
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Necosarius
Sweden4042 Posts
On October 31 2011 16:41 Rekrul wrote: ;; = 'with Flash.' if anyone was wondering what that meant. Then I fell in love as well ;; | ||
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L3gendary
Canada1470 Posts
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Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
Haha, me too | ||
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Ruffian
United States369 Posts
You make me sad, OP. | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
but you read through the posts anyways? ^^ Anyways, I dont like the OPs opinion much either but the few people who were behaving that way need to stop with their sexist bullshit How can you even start with your "oh ok youre a girl, of course you dont get it" when theres people like smix posting in the same thread | ||
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Louuster
Canada2869 Posts
On October 31 2011 23:19 KeksX wrote: Whats funny about all this is, when you talk about sc2 and regular stuff people say that your opinion is irrelevant and nobody cares. But as soon as you start talking about bw everybody is going nuts about it and treats you like you were some kind of new york times journalist that just released an article saying eSports is fake. I don't get it, if RedJustice's opinion is so irrelevant, why do people still feel the need to talk about it? Can't you just say "I think you are wrong, sorry." and leave it like that? o.o' Because her opinion is posted on by far the biggest English speaking BW community and has been for years. This reaction isnt al all surprising, especially given the recent SC2/BW announcements. | ||
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