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sharky246
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FranzP
France270 Posts
What if she's not korean and just have a korean name ? | ||
Thienan567
United States670 Posts
I'm asian and I see these kinds of asians all the time, no biggie. | ||
sharky246
1197 Posts
On October 19 2011 22:34 FranzP wrote: Let me try to get your point. She has a korean name but doesn't know how to speak korean, so she is a disgrace ? What if she's not korean and just have a korean name ? no shes actually korean, so to speak. On October 19 2011 22:35 Thienan567 wrote: Uh, you do realize not every asian in the West is aware of their background right? You know, the ones who didn't emigrate and parents didn't care enough to tell them or don't know themselves? I'm asian and I see these kinds of asians all the time, no biggie. what exactly do you mean not aware of their background? how can an asian not emigrate and live in a foreign country? A parent not caring enough to tell them what? | ||
Cambium
United States16368 Posts
b. she was trolling you c. she's 2(+) generation and hence doesn't actually speak korean d. any combination of the above | ||
Legatus Lanius
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Xenocide_Knight
Korea (South)2625 Posts
On October 19 2011 22:26 frodoguy wrote: I was wondering what another korean (one that knows something about his/her country and can speak the language) would think about this. He/she would think of her as a disgrace is what i initially thought. Someone who would normally be considered a disgrace by their own countrymen/women would in reality be revered to the highest extent. I'm korean, speak korean, born in korea, and the only thing I see disgraceful here is your ridiculous statements | ||
Suichoy
Canada397 Posts
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Cubu
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If yes, then im sure the same logic applies to koreans. If no, then shes a disgrace. | ||
Yosho
585 Posts
On October 19 2011 22:42 Xenocide_Knight wrote: Show nested quote + On October 19 2011 22:26 frodoguy wrote: I was wondering what another korean (one that knows something about his/her country and can speak the language) would think about this. He/she would think of her as a disgrace is what i initially thought. Someone who would normally be considered a disgrace by their own countrymen/women would in reality be revered to the highest extent. I'm korean, speak korean, born in korea, and the only thing I see disgraceful here is your ridiculous statements ^ this i don't think this deserves a post. She's just a person doing what she does. why does not being educated in her language or culture / background to the full extent make her a disgrace? | ||
LaLuSh
Sweden2358 Posts
Happens to me all the time. I can understand my family and speak a crazy mix of their native language and Swedish. But if I actually speak with someone who's native and fluent or someone who carries a slightly different dialect I won't understand jack shit unless they speak slow and enunciate words clearly. Also they cannot use too advanced words or academic level grammatical syntax, lest they'll lose me. | ||
eddoo
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keiraknightlee
United States301 Posts
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sharky246
1197 Posts
On October 19 2011 22:42 Xenocide_Knight wrote: Show nested quote + On October 19 2011 22:26 frodoguy wrote: I was wondering what another korean (one that knows something about his/her country and can speak the language) would think about this. He/she would think of her as a disgrace is what i initially thought. Someone who would normally be considered a disgrace by their own countrymen/women would in reality be revered to the highest extent. I'm korean, speak korean, born in korea, and the only thing I see disgraceful here is your ridiculous statements wow, calm down bro, i have nothing against people who cant speak their own language or dont know anything about their own country. But being that koreans themselves show strong sense of nationalism, i just find it ironic that they wouldnt see it as a disgrace. | ||
jlim
Spain943 Posts
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
Come on now. | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States43994 Posts
On October 19 2011 22:37 Cambium wrote: a. it could be that your korean is really bad b. she was trolling you c. she's 2(+) generation and hence doesn't actually speak korean d. any combination of the above Yeah, these all sound viable. My heritage is Italian and I'm American, so when people ask me if I'm Italian I say "Yes." But both my parents were born and raised in the United States, as was I, so if someone started speaking Italian to me, I wouldn't know what the fuck they were saying. | ||
RogerX
New Zealand3180 Posts
If my parents were from Korea and I was born in New Zealand(True story), do I have to master the language, Korean? No, thats a ridiculous statement and calling her a "disgrace" is harsh. | ||
WindForestChild
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Grettin
42381 Posts
What if you are from Canada, your other parent is from France but you don't know how to speak french, does that mean you are a disgrace? Am i understanding this wrong? | ||
sharky246
1197 Posts
On October 19 2011 23:03 WindForestChild wrote: maybe she wasn't able to understand because your korean was god awful. don't go around saying you know how to speak korean just because you picked up some phrases from kpop or watching a ton of VODs. I studied korean. what makes you think i just picked up some phrases from kpop or watch a ton of vods? (a ton of vods would help you speak korean though) | ||
Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On October 19 2011 23:00 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Show nested quote + On October 19 2011 22:37 Cambium wrote: a. it could be that your korean is really bad b. she was trolling you c. she's 2(+) generation and hence doesn't actually speak korean d. any combination of the above Yeah, these all sound viable. My heritage is Italian and I'm American, so when people ask me if I'm Italian I say "Yes." But both my parents were born and raised in the United States, as was I, so if someone started speaking Italian to me, I wouldn't know what the fuck they were saying. You don't deserve pizzas and spaghetti. | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States43994 Posts
On October 19 2011 23:09 Djzapz wrote: Show nested quote + On October 19 2011 23:00 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: On October 19 2011 22:37 Cambium wrote: a. it could be that your korean is really bad b. she was trolling you c. she's 2(+) generation and hence doesn't actually speak korean d. any combination of the above Yeah, these all sound viable. My heritage is Italian and I'm American, so when people ask me if I'm Italian I say "Yes." But both my parents were born and raised in the United States, as was I, so if someone started speaking Italian to me, I wouldn't know what the fuck they were saying. You don't deserve pizzas and spaghetti. Vaffanculo! Sì, faccio! Apparently that's "Fuck you! Yes, I do!" in Italian ![]() I love my pizza and pasta ♥ | ||
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Chill
Calgary25969 Posts
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OmniEulogy
Canada6591 Posts
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marttorn
Norway5211 Posts
Clearly, she was actually a fake korean, it was all a clever ruse to make you believe that... uh, she was korean. The sense and goal of her plan may seem to be lacking, but why on earth would she say "korea" when asked what city she was from? In fact, she and her ilk are all part of a secret network of fraudulent individuals claiming to be of korean descent. All this, and more, will be documented in my upcoming feature documentary film; The Fauxreans + Show Spoiler + Uh, yes, this is pretty stupid... | ||
Snuggles
United States1865 Posts
The fact that you went up to her and tried talking to her in Korean and seeing that she cannot speak her ethnic language very well- then coming to the conclusion that it's "ironic" is offending. It's really just offending that you would apply that sort of thought because a Korean person is unable to speak Korean fluently. I know that you spoke to her without any malicious intent but you could of caused her some harm without knowing it, and your reaction afterwards is just unnecessarily thoughtless. I mean what if she did have some pride in her nation? She'd feel pretty damn awful after your probing of her Korean language skills. On the other hand she could be trolling you because when people of non-Asian descent attempt to speak in their language its just silly (in a cute friendly way of course). | ||
sharky246
1197 Posts
On October 19 2011 23:20 Chill wrote: You have a lot of conceptions about Koreans lol. Did you consider that A) she just doesn't want to talk to you? B) It's weird that someone is speaking to her in Korean C) she couldn't understand you. A) Well we continued talking after that and i eventually got her number and msn so i doubt it. B) Unless shes not korean, how can she think its weird? C) not trying to be arrogant or show off but i can at least speak the intro stuff like a native speaker. @Snuggles I kept all the incriminating thoughts to myself so she's fine. | ||
WindForestChild
7 Posts
On October 19 2011 23:08 frodoguy wrote: I do not think shes a disgrace. Show nested quote + On October 19 2011 23:03 WindForestChild wrote: maybe she wasn't able to understand because your korean was god awful. don't go around saying you know how to speak korean just because you picked up some phrases from kpop or watching a ton of VODs. I studied korean. what makes you think i just picked up some phrases from kpop or watch a ton of vods? (a ton of vods would help you speak korean though) here's a litmus test. write what you said in hangul. don't be hating because your attempts at flattery were rejected. sorry, but it seems you were trolled. | ||
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Singapore66117 Posts
my korean reading/writing/understanding all isn't that good but boy am i fucking proud of my country, and i don't find myself to be a disgrace at all edit: just to clarify, i'm born korean in korea to korean parents and speak korean at home, i just happen to migrate to singapore when i was 5 | ||
bonifaceviii
Canada2890 Posts
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Aberu
United States968 Posts
On October 19 2011 22:35 frodoguy wrote: Show nested quote + On October 19 2011 22:34 FranzP wrote: Let me try to get your point. She has a korean name but doesn't know how to speak korean, so she is a disgrace ? What if she's not korean and just have a korean name ? no shes actually korean, so to speak. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Man, I can't believe this. The fanboyism of Korea on this site can get pretty out of hand sometimes. People are humans before they are your fantasy version of Korean people. | ||
Rokusha
United States207 Posts
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
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Ruffian
United States369 Posts
It sounds like she just might not know much about her heritage or something? She probably wasn't born in Korea. Maybe as you get to know her more you'll find out the secret meaning of her name! ![]() | ||
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lIlIlIlIlIlI
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Chill
Calgary25969 Posts
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Maenander
Germany4926 Posts
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Snuggles
United States1865 Posts
He also has resorted to hydroxycut to deal with his weight despite claiming that he was going to practice MMA and boxing (which never happened). And at every party he apparently finds the need to remove his clothing no matter what the situation although his level of being an Alpha male is practically the same as a chihuahua to a Leonberger. At least his isn't fat and doing all these shenanigans. This my friends is a disgrace. | ||
Sillylaughs
Canada198 Posts
On October 19 2011 22:26 frodoguy wrote: But the thing is, shes james ruse. Koreans think of koreans with high academics the same way hardcore fans think of their favourite idols, and while koreans wont admit it in public, in the back of their mind if they had to choose between nationalism and academics or any other form of prosperity, they'd be like "fuck korea, money >all" I almost feel insulted reading your inane presumptions like these. I really hope you are trolling. | ||
Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
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ishboh
United States954 Posts
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LaSt)ChAnCe
United States2179 Posts
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Singapore3425 Posts
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Heyoka
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saltywet
Hong Kong1316 Posts
On October 19 2011 22:26 frodoguy wrote: One basic thing about korea is people are born with names that have meanings. There is no ' its just a name' in korea, unless the name is english or some other foreign name. Now she is herself a korean but she knows jack shit about the country and can't even speak the language better than some chinese guy. I don't know what to think of this. the answer is korean is not chinese. korean names dont have meanings, that applies to most chinese names. i have a couple of korean friends who say the same thing as this girl, that their names are only korean names and dont have any meanings. But the thing is, shes james ruse. Koreans think of koreans with high academics the same way hardcore fans think of their favourite idols, and while koreans wont admit it in public, in the back of their mind if they had to choose between nationalism and academics or any other form of prosperity, they'd be like "fuck korea, money >all" So its kinda ironic and somewhat sad. Someone who would normally be considered a disgrace by their own countrymen/women would in reality be revered to the highest extent. you aren't even korean, so what are you speaking on behalf of koreans for. PS, you're from australia; you can't seriously consider any school or university there as "high academics". you did however, accurately describe the characteristics of chinese people though. Edit 2 : I didn't do anything wrong so please stop accusing me of wrongdoings you posted your (misinformed) opinion on the internet. and you're getting bashed for it | ||
Grettin
42381 Posts
On October 20 2011 01:58 heyoka wrote: Maybe she doesn't want to be Asian. Did you think of that? Sorry, i gotta ask. Whats up with that billboard? | ||
Deleted User 183001
2939 Posts
I chose nationalism over almost everything else in my lifetime.. To think some Americans were hardcore nationalists... I'm not sure I've met any THAT fanatical that they would put it above 'almost everything else' in life. You know what I have a story. One of my friends is Vietnamese and he glorifies the Korean race with their culture of food and K-Pop. He copies their style (although I think skin tight jeans and sweater vest can be attributed to other cultures). He's got the Taeyang faux hawk, blurts out random Korean phrases WAY TOO OFTEN, and online he literally (using literally in the correct way) represents himself as a bonafide Korean hipster. He also goes on a never ending brag fest about his Korean-girlfriend that keeps showing pictures of to everyone although she doesn't accompany him to parties. You know one east asian that is a total jpop / kpop wanna-be? You're lucky. My university is full of them, and they pester me more than I would like :/. You'd probably go nuts o-o. | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21242 Posts
On October 20 2011 02:05 Grettin wrote: Show nested quote + On October 20 2011 01:58 heyoka wrote: Maybe she doesn't want to be Asian. Did you think of that? Sorry, i gotta ask. Whats up with that billboard? http://i.imgur.com/q9vTY.png + Show Spoiler + | ||
Azzur
Australia6255 Posts
I'm Asian but I can't speak mandarin... I guess I'm a "disgrace" then according to mr frodo. Btw, I do wish that I can speak mandarin though. Also, maybe I'm being a little judgemental but I think that she didn't really want to communicate with frodo. | ||
koreasilver
9109 Posts
You are such goddamned buffoon. Learn more about Korean culture, kk, noob. | ||
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Chill
Calgary25969 Posts
On October 20 2011 02:11 koreasilver wrote: Are you kidding me? Almost no younger Koreans these days actually learn hanja, and therefore are generally completely unaware of the etymological meanings that their name may have. You are such goddamned buffoon. He studied Korean. He knows this shit. | ||
saltywet
Hong Kong1316 Posts
On October 20 2011 02:13 Chill wrote: Show nested quote + On October 20 2011 02:11 koreasilver wrote: Are you kidding me? Almost no younger Koreans these days actually learn hanja, and therefore are generally completely unaware of the etymological meanings that their name may have. You are such goddamned buffoon. He studied Korean. He knows this shit. sooooo, he only asked the meaning of her name just for the sake of hitting on her | ||
koreasilver
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
On October 20 2011 01:31 Snuggles wrote: You know what I have a story. One of my friends is Vietnamese and he glorifies the Korean race with their culture of food and K-Pop. He copies their style (although I think skin tight jeans and sweater vest can be attributed to other cultures). He's got the Taeyang faux hawk, blurts out random Korean phrases WAY TOO OFTEN, and online he literally (using literally in the correct way) represents himself as a bonafide Korean hipster. He also goes on a never ending brag fest about his Korean-girlfriend that keeps showing pictures of to everyone although she doesn't accompany him to parties. He also has resorted to hydroxycut to deal with his weight despite claiming that he was going to practice MMA and boxing (which never happened). And at every party he apparently finds the need to remove his clothing no matter what the situation although his level of being an Alpha male is practically the same as a chihuahua to a Leonberger. At least his isn't fat and doing all these shenanigans. This my friends is a disgrace. LOL, this reminds me of some of the people that I know. I personally don't have a problem with those types of people since I tend to not judge or care what others do. The only thing I do is just laugh and face palm. You are right on the fashion part since urban fashion has been around longer than what the Kpop stars started to wear in the past couple of years. Of course people label it as "Korean fashion", which is false. I am Asian and I get quite annoyed that people call me a Jay Park or Tae Yang wannabe just because I have a fauxhawk/mohawk, even though I've been styling my hair like that before they started... I dunno if it is at a point to truly call him a disgrace since you didn't post what he thought about his own ethnicity. Does he like being Vietnamese? If not, then yeah, he is a disgrace in my eyes ![]() | ||
Snuggles
United States1865 Posts
On October 20 2011 02:14 koreasilver wrote: FUCKING weeaboos. LOL I thought weaboos only applied to weird non-asian people trying really hard to assimilate into Japanese culture. Actually since we're in this sort of topic what do you guys label non-Korean/Japanese Asians that try really hard to be a native to that particular culture? I don't know how you deal with that many people who act like that Hammurabi, but all my friends HATE it when that one particular guy goes on his usual Korean wannabe tirade- that's just one person, if there's more than one that I'd like to herd them all into a little group and isolate them from our group of friends. | ||
LlamaNamedOsama
United States1900 Posts
On October 19 2011 22:58 frodoguy wrote: Show nested quote + On October 19 2011 22:42 Xenocide_Knight wrote: On October 19 2011 22:26 frodoguy wrote: I was wondering what another korean (one that knows something about his/her country and can speak the language) would think about this. He/she would think of her as a disgrace is what i initially thought. Someone who would normally be considered a disgrace by their own countrymen/women would in reality be revered to the highest extent. I'm korean, speak korean, born in korea, and the only thing I see disgraceful here is your ridiculous statements wow, calm down bro, i have nothing against people who cant speak their own language or dont know anything about their own country. But being that koreans themselves show strong sense of nationalism, i just find it ironic that they wouldnt see it as a disgrace. Now you're just overly generalizing... Plus, people can have nationalism without getting riled up over the fact that someone happens to not have as strong cultural roots...nationalism doesn't preclude some common sense understanding, haha. | ||
koreasilver
9109 Posts
She's broken away from these people because she found them intolerable, but apparently near the end of her relationship with these people the whole kpop wave began to crash and now people were trying to pretend they were Korean. I will never ever understand these kind of people. | ||
Deleted User 183001
2939 Posts
On October 20 2011 02:21 Snuggles wrote: LOL I thought weaboos only applied to weird non-asian people trying really hard to assimilate into Japanese culture. Actually since we're in this sort of topic what do you guys label non-Korean/Japanese Asians that try really hard to be a native to that particular culture? I don't know how you deal with that many people who act like that Hammurabi, but all my friends HATE it when that one particular guy goes on his usual Korean wannabe tirade- that's just one person, if there's more than one that I'd like to herd them all into a little group and isolate them from our group of friends. Eh, you just do your own thing and just keep away from them, and it's all good :p. At least a few of the kpop wanna-bes who are actually Korean know a bit about StarCraft, so that's cool ![]() | ||
Snuggles
United States1865 Posts
On October 20 2011 02:16 zoLo wrote: I dunno if it is at a point to truly call him a disgrace since you didn't post what he thought about his own ethnicity. Does he like being Vietnamese? If not, then yeah, he is a disgrace in my eyes ![]() Well if you're Vietnamese and choose to try to be a Korean wannabe, that is a disgrace in my eyes. Going to Vietnam and meeting all my family has made me extremely proud to be Vietnamese. That does not mean I obnoxiously tell the world about it, but if I were asked about my heritage I'd be glad to elaborate on it. If someone were to mistaken me for a Korean or Japanese person, I would immediately correct them and tell them I was Vietnamese. There have been many cases where people mistake me for being Korean or Japanese because of my lgiht skin and eyes. Fortunately I don't have the thin snake eyes people from those countries commonly have but apparently it must be popular to have larger Asian eyes in Korea and Japan (I don't understand that at all) so it can still be used against me when judging my ethnicity based on physical appearance. I find it somewhat hurtful to not be recognized as a Vietnamese looking person whenever I meet a distant relative =P. I mean how can you not like being Vietnamese? We have the best goddamn noodles in the world! That's why my Viet Korean wannabe friend is a disgrace =_= | ||
Legatus Lanius
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matiK23
United States963 Posts
Shut the fuck up op and worry about your own life. People are people. You actually regress the human race by having an us vs them mentality. Fuck your Korean/azn pride. You can stick it up your ass. User was warned for this post | ||
koreasilver
9109 Posts
I just think there is something intrinsically wrong with trying to pretend that you are of a different culture. Your cultural identity is something that really cannot be separated from who you are, so whenever I see these people that pretend that they're Korean or Japanese or whatever, I feel like they are just pretending to be someone else and are in some kind of way unhappy or not proud of who they are, which is all just sad no matter how you put it. | ||
koreasilver
9109 Posts
On October 20 2011 02:38 matiK23 wrote: Hey I was born in USA not by choice and was assimilated into speaking English and know nothing about my heritage in public schools. Does that make me a white washed disgrace? Shut the fuck up op and worry about your own life. People are people. You actually regress the human race by having an us vs them mentality. Fuck your Korean/azn pride. You can stick it up your ass. He's not Korean and probably not even Asian, wat. | ||
WTFZerg
United States704 Posts
If anyone asks me what nationality I am I generally say American. Edit: Also people rate high schools? What the hell? | ||
Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
And this applies to everyone who thinks he has to stereotype himself by putting himself into an "ethnicy box" just so he can appear like something special even though as a matter of fact neither will those people be recognized as "real" parts of that ethnicy by the people who actually live in the respective countries and neither is it even something to spend much thought on. You are what you make of yourself and not an accumulation of country stereotypes you hope to achieve by overemphasizing your heritage. Be proud of what you achieved through your own power and effort being proud of something you think is an important part of yourself even though it is actually just a piece of rock which you were randomly born on like millions of other poeple doesnt make you special | ||
Deleted User 183001
2939 Posts
On October 20 2011 03:40 Skilledblob wrote: I cant understand the obsession of some people , mainly the americans, with their so called "ethnicy" if I meet some guy on the internet who claims he is "german" because he has german grandparents or even only great grandparents but grew up in the USA, never spoke a german word, never saw germany for longer periods etc then I just cant take those people seriously. And this applies to everyone who thinks he has to stereotype himself by putting himself into an "ethnicy box" just so he can appear like something special even though as a matter of fact neither will those people be recognized as "real" parts of that ethnicy by the people who actually live in the respective countries and neither is it even something to spend much thought on. You are what you make of yourself and not an accumulation of country stereotypes you hope to achieve by overemphasizing your heritage. Be proud of what you achieved through your own power and effort being proud of something you think is an important part of yourself even though it is actually just a piece of rock which you were randomly born on like millions of other poeple doesnt make you special You, sir, are a blob extremely skilled in logic! I like. I don't get that either. :S On the Internet and irl, what matters most imo is nationality/citizenship, and this is considering most of my heritage is quite recent in the US and I know it decently O_o. | ||
kainzero
United States5211 Posts
his name means gold ... ... man, who cares... | ||
QuanticHawk
United States32034 Posts
On October 19 2011 23:20 Chill wrote: You have a lot of conceptions about Koreans lol. Did you consider that A) she just doesn't want to talk to you? B) It's weird that someone is speaking to her in Korean C) she couldn't understand you. Going with a, definitely A. And she gave her her number and MSN because Korean girls, they so shy. She probably felt your powerful eyes burning a disgraceful little hole in her chest and feared to reject you | ||
Emporio
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Emporio
United States3069 Posts
On October 20 2011 03:40 Skilledblob wrote: I cant understand the obsession of some people , mainly the americans, with their so called "ethnicy" if I meet some guy on the internet who claims he is "german" because he has german grandparents or even only great grandparents but grew up in the USA, never spoke a german word, never saw germany for longer periods etc then I just cant take those people seriously. And this applies to everyone who thinks he has to stereotype himself by putting himself into an "ethnicy box" just so he can appear like something special even though as a matter of fact neither will those people be recognized as "real" parts of that ethnicy by the people who actually live in the respective countries and neither is it even something to spend much thought on. You are what you make of yourself and not an accumulation of country stereotypes you hope to achieve by overemphasizing your heritage. Be proud of what you achieved through your own power and effort being proud of something you think is an important part of yourself even though it is actually just a piece of rock which you were randomly born on like millions of other poeple doesnt make you special Ethnicity = genetic race If someone asks my nationality I'll say American for sure with no hesitation. But if someone asks me what my ethnicity and I say American I'd look like an idiot. The only ethnically American people out there are Native Americans. My ethnicity is Japanese because I am genetically born from Japanese people. I've been to Japan once for two weeks and I know little of Japanese culture other than what I've learned in school. I can speak a little bit of understandable Japanese, enough to converse with a native speaker, which is actually fairly significant considering I am fourth generation and few other people in that generation know any Japanese. Culturally I am 95% American, no doubt. But I call myself Japanese because it is literally true. We don't call ourselves German or whatever ethnicity because we're proud of it or anything. We say it because it's true. The only only one here trying to seem special by putting themselves in an exclusive box is you by saying that you are a "real" German compared to the American fakes. | ||
Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
what defines you as yourself is roughly your upbringing, your set of morals and your achievements. Knowing that your greatgrand parents are from japan should not be something which should have any major influence on you. | ||
Daozzt
United States1263 Posts
On October 20 2011 07:11 Skilledblob wrote: Emporio I guess you didnt get it. I was trying to say that it doesnt matter at all to me what ethnecy or what ever you wanna call it you are from cause it's nothing you had to lift a finger for. So I see no point in emphasising it. what defines you as yourself is roughly your upbringing, your set of morals and your achievements. Knowing that your greatgrand parents are from japan should not be something which should have any major influence on you. If your parents are Chinese that means your ethnicity is Chinese. If you are an American born Chinese you are Chinese American. It is as simple as that, why are you even arguing? | ||
shawster
Canada2485 Posts
you're not really accusing anyone of anything but you're telling us a story about how this korean girl didn't know how to speak korean and you're awestruck? then you start to talk about how she would think of herself as a disgrace, but she has good grades so she isn't a disgrace? it's just very confusing. by making this blog you're being viewed as an asshole because you're instruding onto someone else's personal life. it seems thatyou're so infatuated with korean culture that you can't stand the thought of someone of korean ethnicity being unable to speak the language. Now she is herself a korean but she knows jack shit about the country and can't even speak the language better than some chinese guy. I don't know what to think of this. this statement makes my head hurt. stop being ignorant and stop making generalizations. i try going up to a black guy and saying "hey you're black but can you still do a native dance?" or try going up to me and saying "hey bro can you make general tso's chicken?" in a non-joking manner. it wont be pretty. it's very ignorant and borderline racist. although i know you don't intend on being an asshole you come off as one. | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On October 20 2011 07:11 Skilledblob wrote: Emporio I guess you didnt get it. I was trying to say that it doesnt matter at all to me what ethnecy or what ever you wanna call it you are from cause it's nothing you had to lift a finger for. So I see no point in emphasising it. what defines you as yourself is roughly your upbringing, your set of morals and your achievements. Knowing that your greatgrand parents are from japan should not be something which should have any major influence on you. Which is all often shaped quite a bit by your culture. Your culture has a very large impact on the person you are. Obviously what defines you is how you have interacted and defined yourself within your own context, but saying that your upbringing and your morals is not grounded in some way in your culture is rather nonsensical. Even aside from all this, people do have an interest in where they have come from. Adopted individuals very often do have a curiosity in their genetic ancestry and sometimes actively search for them. Everyone has a context, and the context is inescapable. The individual does not live in a vacuum. What defines the individual is not in some kind of nonexistent system of abstract self-defining but in the active participation of the individual in their context and how they allow the context to shape themselves and how they shape their context. | ||
John Madden
American Samoa894 Posts
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Cubu
1171 Posts
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
On October 20 2011 02:22 koreasilver wrote: She's broken away from these people because she found them intolerable, but apparently near the end of her relationship with these people the whole kpop wave began to crash and now people were trying to pretend they were Korean. I will never ever understand these kind of people. This is so true. I remember back in middle school when the Japanese culture was very popular because of anime, music artists, etc. It seems to have died down and now everyone is on the Korean wave. I mean, there was a Kpop club at my high school, which happened to be formed by a non-Korean. That is no problem since music is music after all, but the person is pretty much the type of person that we've have discussed in this thread. I wonder what the next wave will be? | ||
zOula...
United States898 Posts
On October 20 2011 09:31 Rekrul wrote: this blog made absolutely no sense to me, i think ur retarded hahaha, sums this one up perfectly | ||
Kingsp4de20
United States716 Posts
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DKo
United States187 Posts
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
Poll: Who's more "sad"? Frodoguy (22) the korean girl (1) 23 total votes Your vote: Who's more "sad"? Why do Korean names have to have meanings? There are no rules for girls names, and guys names are generational. | ||
tyCe
Australia2542 Posts
Edit: Okay, my bad, I just realised (by reading your second post) that she is Korean but she just didn't want to answer your nosy questions. You're a disgrace and embarassment for calling her out on that, even if she doesn't know the meaning of her name or her hometown. That is not a requirement of having Korean ethnicity. While many migrant people choose to educate their children about their culture and their family history, that should not be a requirement, even if you're a fanatical Korean Pride member. So what that she doesn't command the respect of the traditional Korean crew; not every Korean in Sydney has to flaunt their ethnicity by going to Strathfield everyday, speaking Korean loudly in the train even if someone next to you is one the phone (holy crap this happens so much), take the bus to Saesoon church every week and travel is groups of 10 or more in the city, speaking Korean to each other at maximum decibels. People can do different things if they want to, and she should be respected in being able to refrain from going onto the conveyor belt of stereotypes. That doesn't make her any less Korean or respectable than you. | ||
Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17726 Posts
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Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
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QuanticHawk
United States32034 Posts
On October 20 2011 18:41 Ilikestarcraft wrote: I hope you come back to this blog one day and just realize how silly you sounded... Some day??? I want him back here now! | ||
sharky246
1197 Posts
@tyce i didnt call her out, and are you a korean by any chance? @rekrul well your white so you dont have a name with meaning so you would hardly hear about it | ||
bonifaceviii
Canada2890 Posts
On October 20 2011 22:12 Hawk wrote: Show nested quote + On October 20 2011 18:41 Ilikestarcraft wrote: I hope you come back to this blog one day and just realize how silly you sounded... Some day??? I want him back here now! ^^ haha wish fulfilled. Keep fighting the good fight for Korean purity, frodoguy! Rekrul obviously doesn't know shit about Korea, lol | ||
Cambium
United States16368 Posts
On October 20 2011 22:20 frodoguy wrote: @igotmyown i didn't do anything wrong. So why the hostility? @tyce i didnt call her out, and are you a korean by any chance? @rekrul well your white so you dont have a name with meaning so you would hardly hear aboutit LOL, oh boy... | ||
QuanticHawk
United States32034 Posts
DAN (1) GENDER: Masculine USAGE: Biblical, Biblical Hebrew OTHER SCRIPTS: דָּן (Ancient Hebrew) PRONOUNCED: DAN (English) [key] Meaning & History Means "he judged" in Hebrew. Dan in the Old Testament was one of the twelve sons of Jacob and the founder of one of the twelve tribes of Israel. LOOOOOOOOOLLLLLL | ||
sharky246
1197 Posts
On October 20 2011 22:24 Hawk wrote: Actually, he (like most whiteys) does have a name with meaning!! I'm actually jealous how appropriate it is in this situation! DAN (1) GENDER: Masculine USAGE: Biblical, Biblical Hebrew OTHER SCRIPTS: דָּן (Ancient Hebrew) PRONOUNCED: DAN (English) [key] Meaning & History Means "he judged" in Hebrew. Dan in the Old Testament was one of the twelve sons of Jacob and the founder of one of the twelve tribes of Israel. LOOOOOOOOOLLLLLL The meaning that i am talking about is the meaning that the parents of the korean child decide at or before birth. | ||
Snuggles
United States1865 Posts
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bonifaceviii
Canada2890 Posts
On October 21 2011 00:08 Snuggles wrote: frodoguy this is the point in the thread where you take a bow from the thread and learn from your experience. If everyone is this opposed and laughing at you, there's something very wrong with your way of thinking. That's how things work. Somehow I doubt this will happen, but it's good advice nonetheless. Step back, read the responses, realize you're being an idiot. Grow as a person. | ||
marttorn
Norway5211 Posts
On October 21 2011 00:08 Snuggles wrote: frodoguy this is the point in the thread where you take a bow from the thread and learn from your experience. If everyone is this opposed and laughing at you, there's something very wrong with your way of thinking. That's how things work. Exactly! When I was a complete newbie to TL (by certain standards I still am) I made an awful blog, it got rightfully trashed, but as opposed to Mr. Baggins here, I realized at a point "ok... there's no point... I'll just never reply here again, this is a battle I cannot win" If I were to be frank, I would trust the ring with someone more capable. | ||
Emporio
United States3069 Posts
I know koreans as much as they know themselves. There is no theorising in it. We should all take a step back and bask in his knowledge. | ||
Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
On October 21 2011 01:27 Emporio wrote: Hey guys, I think we all need to reconsider what we've been saying. It's pretty clear that OP knows what he's talking about. After all, as he mentioned in that other thread: We should all take a step back and bask in his knowledge. LOL op should just ask that this get deleted. | ||
JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On October 20 2011 04:42 kainzero wrote: my coworkers name is kim, which is 金 his name means gold ... ... man, who cares... Actually that's a surname.. the "meaning" part would be in their given names. On October 20 2011 19:08 Rekrul wrote: i've lived in korea for 8 years and talked to thousands of koreans and/or overheard conversations and only on very rare occasions have koreans talked about the meaning of their names (and usually only when its the same as a word) But for the Chinese who understand their names better (I'd assume, since they use Hanzi/Hanja on a daily basis) than Koreans, no one really cares about the meaning either. The only time people really care about it's meaning is when parents want to pick a "good" name for their child. “Hi my name is Jie Xian and it means outstanding and virtous. Nice to meet you." Imagine if everyone did that. | ||
saltywet
Hong Kong1316 Posts
On October 20 2011 22:20 frodoguy wrote: @igotmyown i didn't do anything wrong. So why the hostility? @tyce i didnt call her out, and are you a korean by any chance? @rekrul well your white so you dont have a name with meaning so you would hardly hear about it duuude, even amongst hong kong people and mainland chinese people i hardly ever hear people talk about the meaning of their names.... unless it was in the news about a certain second child who was attempted to be named "fined 5000 dollars" a few months ago by a pissed parent | ||
oBlade
United States5390 Posts
On October 20 2011 16:18 Kingsp4de20 wrote: Sounds like you are going to have a very hard time getting laid in life... This isn't the least bit helpful, funny, or original. I'd imagine she just didn't want to talk to you. My reasoning is that even if you spoke Korean, she would find you about as socially impressive as everyone else in the thread has. In that case, maybe she is fluent, and that precludes your whole disgrace question. Even were she not fluent, the question is meaningless. Where does she hold citizenship, and is it the same as her residence? What's her first language? Why would any Korean care whether she spoke Korean? The world is bigger than one peninsula - over 6 billion people don't speak Korean. | ||
QuanticHawk
United States32034 Posts
On October 21 2011 05:10 oBlade wrote: Show nested quote + On October 20 2011 16:18 Kingsp4de20 wrote: Sounds like you are going to have a very hard time getting laid in life... This isn't the least bit helpful, funny, or original. How dare he try to tell the op that he's being extremely spergy and judgmental for no reason! | ||
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Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
On October 20 2011 22:24 Hawk wrote: Actually, he (like most whiteys) does have a name with meaning!! I'm actually jealous how appropriate it is in this situation! DAN (1) GENDER: Masculine USAGE: Biblical, Biblical Hebrew OTHER SCRIPTS: דָּן (Ancient Hebrew) PRONOUNCED: DAN (English) [key] Meaning & History Means "he judged" in Hebrew. Dan in the Old Testament was one of the twelve sons of Jacob and the founder of one of the twelve tribes of Israel. LOOOOOOOOOLLLLLL LOLOL i don't judge anyone what r u talking about!! | ||
pandaBee
United States251 Posts
so in your generalization i guess nearly everyone in the Americas are ignorant disgraces because they speak english and spanish rather than their own indian/european languages ? I could go on with the examples all day but point being is just because u can't speak the language does not necessarily mean you are completely ignorant to your culture. and even if you don't know where u are from/who u are you still have culture however crude it may be. so who are u to judge what is good and bad? and even if that is true what gives you the right to insult a korean for something that only a korean can insult for? what ever happened to tolerance and acceptance geez. i guess if she's a disgrace to koreans that would make u a disgrace to humankind for being ignorant of the worldwide global culture. | ||
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