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The "Why" of Ultimate Barcraft

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Ibsen
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States102 Posts
September 30 2011 23:16 GMT
#1
Many people have asked why we're doing Ultimate Barcraft. I love how passionate and vocal the community is with how they feel about this event. While I may not always agree with everyone's opinions-- they will all help us make this succeed.

I wanted to take the time here to address exactly why we are trying to do this. First Diggity wants to talk about what this event means to him:







For me I want to have a event that everyone in the world can participate in. We had so much fun watching players do non-starcraft things at HomeStory Cup that is seems like it would be just as fun to get them together is a casual setting, sit them down, and let them talk. Even better: we can talk to them as well.

  • This event is like NPR/PBS: Community support with limited commercialization.
  • For me Barcraft means coming together in public (with strangers) to have a drink (alcoholic or non) and celebrate eSports and in this case-- Starcraft. Anaheim didn't have a big enough bar for us, so we're making one. We'll watch some games (if we're allowed by Blizzard), let the heads of these huge franchises tell us what's coming up in the next year, and get to talk to our favorite players, teams, and celebrities.
  • We take this and stream it to everyone. This is our opportunity to show us for what we know we are: a growing, maturing, community that is more relevant to the greater global cultural consciousness than we have ever been before.




Please feel free to ask your questions here or email them to events@teamliquid.net. I will continue to edit this post and reply to submitted questions.



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Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
September 30 2011 23:37 GMT
#2
BarCraft has always been awesome, but this one will take the cake. Cya guys at Anaheim!
Thank God and gunrun.
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-01 00:05:37
September 30 2011 23:47 GMT
#3
I'm still confused. Is the Team Liquid Meetup still happening on Friday?

Also, Diggity is saying that the Ultimate Barcraft at Blizzcon is about the community coming together. It's for the community. How come the organizers behind the event aren't sharing the cost break down for the event (how much money for food, rentals, honorarium, bandwidth etc). If it's for the community, shouldn't the organizers be more transparent and share the information with the SC2 community?

With other community projects, such as bringing MKP to Orlando, OrangeMilkis had the exact breakdown of the costs and shared it with the community. Heck, he even had the community decide how to spend the money on MKP (first class vs economy, etc). It would be nice if the Ultimate Barcraft organizers could be more open and transparent. After all, if the event is for the community, shouldn't the community be in the know and have some input?
Don't mind me
DJTyrant
Profile Joined July 2009
United States14 Posts
October 01 2011 00:17 GMT
#4
No, TL meet-up was always Saturday this year, and hence turned into the Ultimate Barcraft.

Ibsen I sent you an email (you SHOULD know who this is ) let me know how I can help.
Ibsen
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States102 Posts
October 01 2011 00:23 GMT
#5
On October 01 2011 08:47 ptbl wrote:
I'm still confused. Is the Team Liquid Meetup still happening on Friday?

Also, Diggity is saying that the Ultimate Barcraft at Blizzcon is about the community coming together. It's for the community. How come the organizers behind the event aren't sharing the cost break down for the event (how much money for food, rentals, honorarium, bandwidth etc). If it's for the community, shouldn't the organizers be more transparent and share the information with the SC2 community?

With other community projects, such as bringing MKP to Orlando, OrangeMilkis had the exact breakdown of the costs and shared it with the community. Heck, he even had the community decide how to spend the money on MKP (first class vs economy, etc). It would be nice if the Ultimate Barcraft organizers could be more open and transparent. After all, if the event is for the community, shouldn't the community be in the know and have some input?


The Team Liquid Meetup was renamed Ultimate Barcraft. The idea was to help promote the Barcraft movement and make this event easier for non-TL affiliated people, teams, and organisations to take part. In retrospect the Barcraft name has been what many people want to focus on and has been a bit of a distraction.

I like your idea about transparency in the planning process. Next time when we start planning this (this year was around March), I'd be happy to approach the community about potential locations and possibilities. Unfortunately by the time people usually want to talk about a BlizzCon event everything is already booked. I'd love for everyone's input on how to achieve a greater community involvement as well.
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
October 01 2011 00:30 GMT
#6
I'm very confused at the hesitation of the community to support this event. The formula is simple:

Community get-together + interaction with progamers and leading industry professions = AWESOME!

I'm reading comments on reddit about how "barcraft" is a misuse of a term, and how this is more of a "fan convetion". Really?

What is there to question? The event is backed by Team Liquid, Twitch TV, and have confirmed attendance from people at IGN, NASL, MLG, and every other major ESPORTS organization the community supports. I know these guys have been planning this event well before MLG Anaheim, and were running around like mad during MLG to get this thing off the ground. I would estimate this has been in the works for many months, if not a whole year.

Can we have nice things for once?

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Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-01 01:47:44
October 01 2011 01:05 GMT
#7
As a person involved in the barcraft movement since its inception, I am very honored that Joe has picked barcraft to feature for the party he's putting together at blizzcon. This event certainly has its heritage in the TL meetup from last year, but with a BarCraft twist, I am sure it can become even more entertaining.

This is going to be great. Even if you hestitate now, drop by or tune in. The StarCraft community will be surprised again.
Thank God and gunrun.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
October 01 2011 01:09 GMT
#8
^_^ every barcraft i'vebeen to has been pretty awesome
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xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
October 01 2011 08:00 GMT
#9
This might be a bit of a trivial question but how much has been donated already? I am not familiar with chipin.com but the bar on their donation page hasn't moved up from $500.50.
Thurokiir
Profile Joined June 2010
United States779 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-01 15:57:17
October 01 2011 15:54 GMT
#10
On October 01 2011 08:47 ptbl wrote:
I'm still confused. Is the Team Liquid Meetup still happening on Friday?

Also, Diggity is saying that the Ultimate Barcraft at Blizzcon is about the community coming together. It's for the community. How come the organizers behind the event aren't sharing the cost break down for the event (how much money for food, rentals, honorarium, bandwidth etc). If it's for the community, shouldn't the organizers be more transparent and share the information with the SC2 community?

With other community projects, such as bringing MKP to Orlando, OrangeMilkis had the exact breakdown of the costs and shared it with the community. Heck, he even had the community decide how to spend the money on MKP (first class vs economy, etc). It would be nice if the Ultimate Barcraft organizers could be more open and transparent. After all, if the event is for the community, shouldn't the community be in the know and have some input?


Atm i think its ambiguous on whether or not donation is necessary - no one really knows wtf is happening with the event. More disclosure and publicity is needed before whinging about details.
Tahts halo dont worry
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