• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 12:21
CET 18:21
KST 02:21
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)25Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft 2 not at the Esports World Cup 2026 herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational PhD study /w SC2 - help with a survey! Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued [Short Story] The Last GSL
Tourneys
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open! SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained
Brood War
General
Which foreign pros are considered the best? [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Gypsy to Korea BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Fantasy's Q&A video
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Lost love spell caster in Spain +27 74 116 2667
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread NASA and the Private Sector
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Esports Advertising Shap…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1262 users

The "Why" of Ultimate Barcraft

Blogs > Ibsen
Post a Reply
Ibsen
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States102 Posts
September 30 2011 23:16 GMT
#1
Many people have asked why we're doing Ultimate Barcraft. I love how passionate and vocal the community is with how they feel about this event. While I may not always agree with everyone's opinions-- they will all help us make this succeed.

I wanted to take the time here to address exactly why we are trying to do this. First Diggity wants to talk about what this event means to him:







For me I want to have a event that everyone in the world can participate in. We had so much fun watching players do non-starcraft things at HomeStory Cup that is seems like it would be just as fun to get them together is a casual setting, sit them down, and let them talk. Even better: we can talk to them as well.

  • This event is like NPR/PBS: Community support with limited commercialization.
  • For me Barcraft means coming together in public (with strangers) to have a drink (alcoholic or non) and celebrate eSports and in this case-- Starcraft. Anaheim didn't have a big enough bar for us, so we're making one. We'll watch some games (if we're allowed by Blizzard), let the heads of these huge franchises tell us what's coming up in the next year, and get to talk to our favorite players, teams, and celebrities.
  • We take this and stream it to everyone. This is our opportunity to show us for what we know we are: a growing, maturing, community that is more relevant to the greater global cultural consciousness than we have ever been before.




Please feel free to ask your questions here or email them to events@teamliquid.net. I will continue to edit this post and reply to submitted questions.



*****
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
September 30 2011 23:37 GMT
#2
BarCraft has always been awesome, but this one will take the cake. Cya guys at Anaheim!
Thank God and gunrun.
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-01 00:05:37
September 30 2011 23:47 GMT
#3
I'm still confused. Is the Team Liquid Meetup still happening on Friday?

Also, Diggity is saying that the Ultimate Barcraft at Blizzcon is about the community coming together. It's for the community. How come the organizers behind the event aren't sharing the cost break down for the event (how much money for food, rentals, honorarium, bandwidth etc). If it's for the community, shouldn't the organizers be more transparent and share the information with the SC2 community?

With other community projects, such as bringing MKP to Orlando, OrangeMilkis had the exact breakdown of the costs and shared it with the community. Heck, he even had the community decide how to spend the money on MKP (first class vs economy, etc). It would be nice if the Ultimate Barcraft organizers could be more open and transparent. After all, if the event is for the community, shouldn't the community be in the know and have some input?
Don't mind me
DJTyrant
Profile Joined July 2009
United States14 Posts
October 01 2011 00:17 GMT
#4
No, TL meet-up was always Saturday this year, and hence turned into the Ultimate Barcraft.

Ibsen I sent you an email (you SHOULD know who this is ) let me know how I can help.
Ibsen
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States102 Posts
October 01 2011 00:23 GMT
#5
On October 01 2011 08:47 ptbl wrote:
I'm still confused. Is the Team Liquid Meetup still happening on Friday?

Also, Diggity is saying that the Ultimate Barcraft at Blizzcon is about the community coming together. It's for the community. How come the organizers behind the event aren't sharing the cost break down for the event (how much money for food, rentals, honorarium, bandwidth etc). If it's for the community, shouldn't the organizers be more transparent and share the information with the SC2 community?

With other community projects, such as bringing MKP to Orlando, OrangeMilkis had the exact breakdown of the costs and shared it with the community. Heck, he even had the community decide how to spend the money on MKP (first class vs economy, etc). It would be nice if the Ultimate Barcraft organizers could be more open and transparent. After all, if the event is for the community, shouldn't the community be in the know and have some input?


The Team Liquid Meetup was renamed Ultimate Barcraft. The idea was to help promote the Barcraft movement and make this event easier for non-TL affiliated people, teams, and organisations to take part. In retrospect the Barcraft name has been what many people want to focus on and has been a bit of a distraction.

I like your idea about transparency in the planning process. Next time when we start planning this (this year was around March), I'd be happy to approach the community about potential locations and possibilities. Unfortunately by the time people usually want to talk about a BlizzCon event everything is already booked. I'd love for everyone's input on how to achieve a greater community involvement as well.
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
October 01 2011 00:30 GMT
#6
I'm very confused at the hesitation of the community to support this event. The formula is simple:

Community get-together + interaction with progamers and leading industry professions = AWESOME!

I'm reading comments on reddit about how "barcraft" is a misuse of a term, and how this is more of a "fan convetion". Really?

What is there to question? The event is backed by Team Liquid, Twitch TV, and have confirmed attendance from people at IGN, NASL, MLG, and every other major ESPORTS organization the community supports. I know these guys have been planning this event well before MLG Anaheim, and were running around like mad during MLG to get this thing off the ground. I would estimate this has been in the works for many months, if not a whole year.

Can we have nice things for once?

Photographer@shindags || twitch.tv/shindigs
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-01 01:47:44
October 01 2011 01:05 GMT
#7
As a person involved in the barcraft movement since its inception, I am very honored that Joe has picked barcraft to feature for the party he's putting together at blizzcon. This event certainly has its heritage in the TL meetup from last year, but with a BarCraft twist, I am sure it can become even more entertaining.

This is going to be great. Even if you hestitate now, drop by or tune in. The StarCraft community will be surprised again.
Thank God and gunrun.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
October 01 2011 01:09 GMT
#8
^_^ every barcraft i'vebeen to has been pretty awesome
PhotographerLiquipedia. Drop me a pm if you've got questions/need help.
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
October 01 2011 08:00 GMT
#9
This might be a bit of a trivial question but how much has been donated already? I am not familiar with chipin.com but the bar on their donation page hasn't moved up from $500.50.
Thurokiir
Profile Joined June 2010
United States779 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-01 15:57:17
October 01 2011 15:54 GMT
#10
On October 01 2011 08:47 ptbl wrote:
I'm still confused. Is the Team Liquid Meetup still happening on Friday?

Also, Diggity is saying that the Ultimate Barcraft at Blizzcon is about the community coming together. It's for the community. How come the organizers behind the event aren't sharing the cost break down for the event (how much money for food, rentals, honorarium, bandwidth etc). If it's for the community, shouldn't the organizers be more transparent and share the information with the SC2 community?

With other community projects, such as bringing MKP to Orlando, OrangeMilkis had the exact breakdown of the costs and shared it with the community. Heck, he even had the community decide how to spend the money on MKP (first class vs economy, etc). It would be nice if the Ultimate Barcraft organizers could be more open and transparent. After all, if the event is for the community, shouldn't the community be in the know and have some input?


Atm i think its ambiguous on whether or not donation is necessary - no one really knows wtf is happening with the event. More disclosure and publicity is needed before whinging about details.
Tahts halo dont worry
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
14:00
#71
WardiTV4936
TKL 229
Rex112
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
TKL 229
Rex 112
BRAT_OK 68
Livibee 45
MindelVK 39
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 2916
Calm 1987
Shuttle 411
BeSt 318
Hyuk 259
Mini 233
firebathero 163
Soulkey 121
Mind 53
Free 29
[ Show more ]
Shinee 29
Yoon 27
Rock 21
Terrorterran 14
Dota 2
singsing2654
qojqva2556
420jenkins840
syndereN558
BananaSlamJamma83
Counter-Strike
fl0m1814
byalli1590
ceh9556
ptr_tv58
adren_tv0
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King44
Other Games
summit1g11313
Grubby1788
hiko1116
crisheroes240
Harstem194
QueenE108
Chillindude23
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• poizon28 38
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV451
League of Legends
• Jankos3410
• TFBlade1284
Other Games
• Shiphtur82
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
9m
OSC
6h 39m
Replay Cast
15h 39m
RongYI Cup
17h 39m
Clem vs TriGGeR
Maru vs Creator
WardiTV Invitational
20h 39m
Replay Cast
1d 15h
RongYI Cup
1d 17h
herO vs Solar
WardiTV Invitational
1d 20h
The PondCast
2 days
HomeStory Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
HomeStory Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
HomeStory Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Rongyi Cup S3
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W6
Escore Tournament S1: W7
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.