• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 08:19
CET 14:19
KST 22:19
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 101SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1820Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises3Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship WardiTV Mondays $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone Empty tournaments section on Liquipedia I would like to say something about StarCraft StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
SLON Grand Finals – Season 2 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Beyond All Reason Elden Ring Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Big Programming Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1048 users

Priorities, Indecision, Extra Credit Sucks

Blogs > Froadac
Post a Reply
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-26 22:39:27
September 26 2011 06:25 GMT
#1
Alright, so here it is. A super regular blog >.>

1) Priorities. I don't have enough time right now. Previously I may have been busy, but a sort of happy sort of busy. Running around. Rejoicing in all I had to do. Moaning about it rather than rejoicing of course, but you get the point.

Among these things was SC2. I haven't been playing that much recently. It's bugging the crap out of me how poorly I'm doing. In one sense, it's not a good attitude to just give up and say "well, screw it, I was bad, so be it" But I think the thing in this case is I have so much to do. So much which is both fun and truly productive. Sure SC2 is a great hobby, but I have no illusions of grandeur. I'll sit in my house while new faces like LuckyFool and Suppy rise to the top and own face. And I don't want to spend my time failing. Sure, when time is plentiful I'll play a game or two, but at this point I figured I wanted to get some set priorities and goals. So I've set a few hard goals on what I wanted to get done and their priorities.

0) Eat a shitton.

1) What the heck do I want to do with my life. What major? What field. Well right now I have no idea, and I ought to figure out what the heck I want to do. Apps are closing in fast.

2) National merit and apps: Procrastinating like crazy. Need to get essay done. Need to get shit submitted to counselor. Need to get paper apps for the schools I'm applying to. Need to get common app filled out.

3) Grades: Not doing the best in calculus as of yet. I really need to put in a ton more time if I wish to improve. At least a B.

4) MUN/Acadec. I"m responsible for two large clubs, and I need to get stuff done.

5) Korean. It's vaguely useful. Quite fun. Very interesting. Ought to get it done.

6) A bit of SC2 vods.

6.2) Life. I won't have much time for anything in the next 3 months though.



Indecision:

I keep on cycling between

1) Economics

2) Undegrad business

3) CS/Engineering

4) Law

How does a BA of CS compare to a BS of CS

If you guys have been in any of these fields what is/was it like. How is the programming? How is the job market/pay?


Today we had to write a rap. If I perform it my group gets extra credit cause the teacher thought it would be funny. I actually ahve a doctor's appointment on that day, so I can't do it. Doesn't matter cause it's APES, and the teacher likes me and will probably give EC anyways. But that aside. Girl in group bugs me. Calls me like 30 minutes ago. Says "do you have a video camera" I"m like err, no I wrote the rap, but I don't really ahve a video camera.

Then she bitches about extra credit and how we won't get it.

Well you know what. Screw you. We both have 97% in the class and frankly it doesn't matter. I wrote it.

</rage>

**
wonderwall
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
New Zealand695 Posts
September 26 2011 06:34 GMT
#2
My recommendation would be law. It's a really great degree, ton of work and its not easy to get in to a good school but the people you meet in law school are amazing and its a degree which teaches you really useful stuff which will be relevant throughout your life. Only problem is getting in to a good school, I'm almost certain the process will be much different (and much harder) in the American education system but if you can put in the effort and have the ability you will appreciate it.
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
September 26 2011 07:41 GMT
#3
No idea about law but I would avoid econ. If you have a degree in business, CS or engineering, you'll have a good chance of getting a decent job.

And you forgot eating a shitton in your priority list.
Official Entusman #21
ShoeFactory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States186 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-26 08:35:58
September 26 2011 08:34 GMT
#4
not cs, cs is for super smart people and not that smart people.

if you do economics, do math as well. do this if youre pretty damn smart.

business. do this if youre good at communication but not books. (doesn't sound like its for you)

do law if youre good at logic, like writing, and are pretty smart.

do engineering if youre pretty smart. if youre really smart, you could be doing better things.

i know intelligence is relative, but smart is 99 percentile and really smart is 99.9 percentile.

let me know if you want to know a little more about the science side of things (i don't know that much about nonscience careers).
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
September 26 2011 22:39 GMT
#5
I fixed it infinity.
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
September 27 2011 01:37 GMT
#6
Engineering is probably the best for getting a job right after college I think What schools are you applying to!
Check out my stream at www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=315053 and follow me on Twitter @EGSuppy! :)
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
September 27 2011 02:27 GMT
#7
On September 26 2011 15:25 Froadac wrote:
How does a BA of CS compare to a BS of CS


I have to assume the means you're joking, but if not, don't you dare get a BA in CS or anything science-related. It's a joke that schools even offer degrees like a BA in Chemistry.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
September 27 2011 04:33 GMT
#8
Uhh. Basically most UCs, U Chicago, Rice, USC. Depending on how it looks for fafsa I might end up using national merit money for a full ride at University of Idaho. LOL

I'm not joking Shadowdragn. I've just asked that question. Nobody takes it seriously. tt It may be a joke but I was just asking
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
September 27 2011 04:54 GMT
#9
best major for a job after graduation is probably 3) CS/Engineering

I don't know if you're being lazy or actually struggling with Calculus, but if you are struggling with Calc, engineering probably is not for you.

whatever major you choose, make sure it is for a BS degree. if you get a BA degree, you better be damn passionate about that major.

your priorities while in college should be to land some internship that is related to your major and to build up a network that can potentially help you land a job.

don't ignore your classes, but building up relevant job experience and a social network while in college is more important to me than getting As in every course

if you really want to work for some big firm/corporation straight out of college, then you can work your ass off and maintain a high GPA while gaining relevant job experience and networking.
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
September 27 2011 04:58 GMT
#10
In calc I'm not really doing much worse than class average =/ I understand it conceptually, just am sucking at the brute differentiation/integration. There is a touch of lazy there. I'm really getting down to business now though.

Thanks for the input though

What did you do in uni?
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
September 27 2011 05:19 GMT
#11
This whole U of I thing sucks. Use money there or at USC?

Gah.

Any U of I students here?
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 07:42:05
September 27 2011 07:36 GMT
#12
On September 27 2011 13:58 Froadac wrote:What did you do in uni?


went to UC Irvine

first year was undeclared/undecided. going into second year, I decided on Computer Engineering.

year 2 went well enough

year 3, I ran into Differential Equations and couldn't cut it. even if I understood how to do differential equations, I was already having doubts on whether Computer Engineering was for me. I basically felt that if I somehow managed to graduate with a BS in Computer Engineering I would be one crappy CE. in retrospect, a BS degree would have been far better than what I ended up doing, which was changing majors to Economics.

anyways year 4 + 1 quarter into year 5, I switched major to Economics because it was basically the only major where I could graduate within such a short time frame after changing from a CE major.

this ended up being a huge mistake that I greatly regret for several reasons, but I'll just focus on one.

after I graduated with an Economics major, I had no idea what I wanted to do. I chose the Economics major for the sake of graduating and not for the objective of wanting a particular job/career. I ended up getting a job and I paid off my college debt, but now, I'm going back to college (community this time around) and working towards a 2 year degree in Network Administration because the IT certs I've acquired (A+, N+, and CCNA) don't seem good enough by themselves to get much interview interest in low level IT tech support/help desk.

anyways, don't be me. have a plan. be decisive. have a strong understanding of what you want and work towards achieving that goal.
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
SLON
12:00
Grand Finals & Closing SM
ZZZero.O127
Liquipedia
Platinum Heroes Events
12:00
PSC2L Finals - Playoffs
Shameless vs CreatorLIVE!
Nicoract vs TBD
RotterdaM711
Liquipedia
OSC
12:00
World Championship: Challenger
WardiTV559
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 711
Lowko265
SortOf 157
MindelVK 61
DivinesiaTV 21
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 38307
Sea 5139
Rain 2535
Jaedong 1712
Horang2 1590
Stork 799
firebathero 615
GuemChi 575
Mini 568
actioN 490
[ Show more ]
ZerO 443
Soma 411
BeSt 353
Light 285
ggaemo 283
Last 252
Rush 212
Zeus 193
Hyuk 191
Larva 163
Barracks 128
ZZZero.O 127
Aegong 125
Mong 99
Hyun 90
JYJ 76
Mind 70
Leta 65
Killer 61
Pusan 59
JulyZerg 57
Sharp 40
Yoon 33
ToSsGirL 26
HiyA 26
Sexy 25
soO 24
Rock 20
zelot 20
scan(afreeca) 19
Terrorterran 17
ajuk12(nOOB) 17
Noble 15
GoRush 10
Dota 2
XcaliburYe329
Fuzer 226
febbydoto17
League of Legends
C9.Mang0459
JimRising 415
Counter-Strike
zeus721
Other Games
singsing2117
B2W.Neo1827
Gorgc622
ceh9603
Pyrionflax549
crisheroes321
Mew2King68
Hui .65
ZerO(Twitch)14
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos4093
Upcoming Events
IPSL
3h 41m
Dewalt vs Bonyth
OSC
4h 41m
OSC
22h 41m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d
Replay Cast
1d 19h
Wardi Open
1d 22h
RotterdaM Event
2 days
Patches Events
2 days
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
OSC
2 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
3 days
OSC
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1: W2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.