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Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-26 22:39:27
September 26 2011 06:25 GMT
#1
Alright, so here it is. A super regular blog >.>

1) Priorities. I don't have enough time right now. Previously I may have been busy, but a sort of happy sort of busy. Running around. Rejoicing in all I had to do. Moaning about it rather than rejoicing of course, but you get the point.

Among these things was SC2. I haven't been playing that much recently. It's bugging the crap out of me how poorly I'm doing. In one sense, it's not a good attitude to just give up and say "well, screw it, I was bad, so be it" But I think the thing in this case is I have so much to do. So much which is both fun and truly productive. Sure SC2 is a great hobby, but I have no illusions of grandeur. I'll sit in my house while new faces like LuckyFool and Suppy rise to the top and own face. And I don't want to spend my time failing. Sure, when time is plentiful I'll play a game or two, but at this point I figured I wanted to get some set priorities and goals. So I've set a few hard goals on what I wanted to get done and their priorities.

0) Eat a shitton.

1) What the heck do I want to do with my life. What major? What field. Well right now I have no idea, and I ought to figure out what the heck I want to do. Apps are closing in fast.

2) National merit and apps: Procrastinating like crazy. Need to get essay done. Need to get shit submitted to counselor. Need to get paper apps for the schools I'm applying to. Need to get common app filled out.

3) Grades: Not doing the best in calculus as of yet. I really need to put in a ton more time if I wish to improve. At least a B.

4) MUN/Acadec. I"m responsible for two large clubs, and I need to get stuff done.

5) Korean. It's vaguely useful. Quite fun. Very interesting. Ought to get it done.

6) A bit of SC2 vods.

6.2) Life. I won't have much time for anything in the next 3 months though.



Indecision:

I keep on cycling between

1) Economics

2) Undegrad business

3) CS/Engineering

4) Law

How does a BA of CS compare to a BS of CS

If you guys have been in any of these fields what is/was it like. How is the programming? How is the job market/pay?


Today we had to write a rap. If I perform it my group gets extra credit cause the teacher thought it would be funny. I actually ahve a doctor's appointment on that day, so I can't do it. Doesn't matter cause it's APES, and the teacher likes me and will probably give EC anyways. But that aside. Girl in group bugs me. Calls me like 30 minutes ago. Says "do you have a video camera" I"m like err, no I wrote the rap, but I don't really ahve a video camera.

Then she bitches about extra credit and how we won't get it.

Well you know what. Screw you. We both have 97% in the class and frankly it doesn't matter. I wrote it.

</rage>

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wonderwall
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
New Zealand695 Posts
September 26 2011 06:34 GMT
#2
My recommendation would be law. It's a really great degree, ton of work and its not easy to get in to a good school but the people you meet in law school are amazing and its a degree which teaches you really useful stuff which will be relevant throughout your life. Only problem is getting in to a good school, I'm almost certain the process will be much different (and much harder) in the American education system but if you can put in the effort and have the ability you will appreciate it.
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
September 26 2011 07:41 GMT
#3
No idea about law but I would avoid econ. If you have a degree in business, CS or engineering, you'll have a good chance of getting a decent job.

And you forgot eating a shitton in your priority list.
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ShoeFactory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States186 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-26 08:35:58
September 26 2011 08:34 GMT
#4
not cs, cs is for super smart people and not that smart people.

if you do economics, do math as well. do this if youre pretty damn smart.

business. do this if youre good at communication but not books. (doesn't sound like its for you)

do law if youre good at logic, like writing, and are pretty smart.

do engineering if youre pretty smart. if youre really smart, you could be doing better things.

i know intelligence is relative, but smart is 99 percentile and really smart is 99.9 percentile.

let me know if you want to know a little more about the science side of things (i don't know that much about nonscience careers).
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
September 26 2011 22:39 GMT
#5
I fixed it infinity.
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
September 27 2011 01:37 GMT
#6
Engineering is probably the best for getting a job right after college I think What schools are you applying to!
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ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
September 27 2011 02:27 GMT
#7
On September 26 2011 15:25 Froadac wrote:
How does a BA of CS compare to a BS of CS


I have to assume the means you're joking, but if not, don't you dare get a BA in CS or anything science-related. It's a joke that schools even offer degrees like a BA in Chemistry.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
September 27 2011 04:33 GMT
#8
Uhh. Basically most UCs, U Chicago, Rice, USC. Depending on how it looks for fafsa I might end up using national merit money for a full ride at University of Idaho. LOL

I'm not joking Shadowdragn. I've just asked that question. Nobody takes it seriously. tt It may be a joke but I was just asking
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
September 27 2011 04:54 GMT
#9
best major for a job after graduation is probably 3) CS/Engineering

I don't know if you're being lazy or actually struggling with Calculus, but if you are struggling with Calc, engineering probably is not for you.

whatever major you choose, make sure it is for a BS degree. if you get a BA degree, you better be damn passionate about that major.

your priorities while in college should be to land some internship that is related to your major and to build up a network that can potentially help you land a job.

don't ignore your classes, but building up relevant job experience and a social network while in college is more important to me than getting As in every course

if you really want to work for some big firm/corporation straight out of college, then you can work your ass off and maintain a high GPA while gaining relevant job experience and networking.
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Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
September 27 2011 04:58 GMT
#10
In calc I'm not really doing much worse than class average =/ I understand it conceptually, just am sucking at the brute differentiation/integration. There is a touch of lazy there. I'm really getting down to business now though.

Thanks for the input though

What did you do in uni?
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
September 27 2011 05:19 GMT
#11
This whole U of I thing sucks. Use money there or at USC?

Gah.

Any U of I students here?
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 07:42:05
September 27 2011 07:36 GMT
#12
On September 27 2011 13:58 Froadac wrote:What did you do in uni?


went to UC Irvine

first year was undeclared/undecided. going into second year, I decided on Computer Engineering.

year 2 went well enough

year 3, I ran into Differential Equations and couldn't cut it. even if I understood how to do differential equations, I was already having doubts on whether Computer Engineering was for me. I basically felt that if I somehow managed to graduate with a BS in Computer Engineering I would be one crappy CE. in retrospect, a BS degree would have been far better than what I ended up doing, which was changing majors to Economics.

anyways year 4 + 1 quarter into year 5, I switched major to Economics because it was basically the only major where I could graduate within such a short time frame after changing from a CE major.

this ended up being a huge mistake that I greatly regret for several reasons, but I'll just focus on one.

after I graduated with an Economics major, I had no idea what I wanted to do. I chose the Economics major for the sake of graduating and not for the objective of wanting a particular job/career. I ended up getting a job and I paid off my college debt, but now, I'm going back to college (community this time around) and working towards a 2 year degree in Network Administration because the IT certs I've acquired (A+, N+, and CCNA) don't seem good enough by themselves to get much interview interest in low level IT tech support/help desk.

anyways, don't be me. have a plan. be decisive. have a strong understanding of what you want and work towards achieving that goal.
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