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D3 hacked already, was it worth no LAN?
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Deleted User 61629
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Torte de Lini
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Chairman Ray
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eu.exodus
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Seditary
Australia7033 Posts
On September 21 2011 14:23 Inori wrote: Basically there's a server emulation hack out in the open already. It has its problems and limitations (like you can only play DH atm), but other than that it works fine. You have a rather odd definition of 'works fine' | ||
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semantics
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On September 21 2011 14:40 Seditary wrote: You have a rather odd definition of 'works fine' it works fine as in you can load the first area and that's it. given time i suppose they could find and root out what the server side does in item generation etc and emulate that but w.e diablo is a multi player game. Why no lane because of shit like hamachi and garena emulated lan servers where people can illegally download the game and play it for free pretty much. Really who was using diablo 2 to play lan no one leaving it out and focusing on a closed battle.net structure was a fine choice. I don't see people complain about no lan for wow because it's an mmo. They just made an mmo structured around diablo and how it plays i mean there is an AH and everything. Anyways with games like diablo that aren't mmo in the sense of a subscription, putting such a heavy burden to fully emulate a server takes time and during that time, el cheepo pirates will buy a legit copy of diablo 3. If it was subscription based i'd see them taking action to shutting down those servers but like sc2 the scene that plays on emulated servers is small so they already locked in the people who were going to buy the game. | ||
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Ome
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If your talking about playing at LAN with your friends while you each own a copy, you should have internet access, which was a rarity for sure back in 98-2000. | ||
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wonderwall
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These measures will get more and more draconian with things like one computer per game copy until game companies eventually push themselves out of the market with their rules and they have to relax. | ||
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Deleted User 61629
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Seditary
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On September 21 2011 14:48 Inori wrote: Yeah, I realized the wording was wrong, fixed it. What I meant is that you can emulate D3 server, launch the world and run around it. Anything after that is just details and a matter of time. I see the edit, coolies. | ||
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NotSorry
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semantics
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On September 21 2011 15:05 NotSorry wrote: Yea the whole "anti-hack" and crap is a load of shit, aside from player hosted servers there are already "working" bots on the bnet beta server. (I say "working" because they are not the best programmed things in the world, but they run around and kill shit and loot it so it's only a matter of time before the minor details are worked out) botting isn't exactly hacking to how most people think of it, bot don't manipulate in game code often they just read the screen and tell what commands to do following a crude ai, i doubt there are still any bots that actively inject code at least take that risk. You want to know why diablo 3 wont be hack able. How often does wow get hacked, your account gets hacked but ppl aren't hacking items etc, because all your info is being saved server side. The best you can get around on that is exploits in the code for duping/pking or map hacks. You call the game hacked but you'll never log into a blizz server, as it looks for a d3 attached to the account | ||
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jacen
Austria3644 Posts
On September 21 2011 15:05 NotSorry wrote: Yea the whole "anti-hack" and crap is a load of shit, aside from player hosted servers there are already "working" bots on the bnet beta server. (I say "working" because they are not the best programmed things in the world, but they run around and kill shit and loot it so it's only a matter of time before the minor details are worked out) About the bots: It's very likely that the beta doesn't have any version of the warden implemented. Upon launch there will be bots, but there also will be bans and fixes to obscure Diablo's memory footprint. The situation will be similar or a little worse to WoW, since actual money can be made with the items. Still, if you don't play competitive PvP (which i think D3 is the wrong game for) you shouldn't notice that much aside from slightly lower prices for items. | ||
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mtn
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English
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tuho12345
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TheRabidDeer
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leads into "With Blizzards new "anti-hacking" policy, it seems that only people suffering from it are those that are trying to use their software honestly." You dont see why they limit you to online only? Anti-hacking is only half of the reason, and it is a pretty solid reason. There is no need to have LAN for a game like D3. | ||
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Vansetsu
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Truedot
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you know why, its cause people buy their products regardles,s because its a "must have" thing. why should I have my fun to enjoy it however I please, where and whenever I please, and with whoever I please, be limited by being forced to go through their server for it? ultimately, its consumers that make the goalposts though. and when consumers keep buying products instead of abstaining, or, more illegally, just ripping the company off to shove it in their faces, they're going to Promote this type of behavior from companies. its just like a dog. if you give it a cookie when it shits on the carpet, don't you think you're going to see a lot more turds in the future? A company CANNOT keep saying "screw you" when all its customers leave. Companies DO look at the bottom line, and they have to cater to what gets them that best one. if it helps, think of companies as amoral monsters, who can either be continually petted and soothed despite becoming worse and worse, or can be disciplined by market shares into behaving exactly how you want. On September 21 2011 15:39 mtn wrote: The thing is that D3 isn't even released yet, and there are already not really playable, but still ARE server emulators. That really is something. this. | ||
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chiboni
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So it sounds more like 'Why do i have to pay X copys when i want to play with my friends,even so one of us owns a copy'. Also that with the emulated server is no big suprise.. WOW Addon Cataclysm was emulated/datamined the day F&F Alpha came out. So i guess its common for client sided games ? | ||
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