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TvT is draining my soul, killing me.....

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Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
September 06 2011 10:34 GMT
#1
I fucking don't understand this matchup. 50 min TvT on Searing Crater, I outexpand him, kill his expansions, yet he manages to take the gold and I can't kill him for it, and I'm dead. Next, 10 hellions happily march across the map and fuck up my 50 scvs, and I don't have income. I just don't understand, you can't fucking walk into tank lines but how do you kill the motherfucker who set up tank lines? This is so much fucking bullshit, I'll switch to Toss at least their mirror ends in 10-15min at most and it doesn't fucking drain your soul with bullshit positioning and such...

I need something to break.......

*
"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
September 06 2011 10:45 GMT
#2
I feel your pain, i usually just marine scv all in TvT because i can't stand tank vs tank...
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
September 06 2011 10:49 GMT
#3
Fight for positioning pull scvs to take tank hits, drop everywhere, or force him to attack you, switch to bc's.

theres all kinds of shit you can do in TvT
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
September 06 2011 10:52 GMT
#4
Isn't TvT the most versatile MU? Just do different shit! Sky terran yo!
Jh
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Finland151 Posts
September 06 2011 10:52 GMT
#5
copy nada
what
Sotamursu
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland612 Posts
September 06 2011 10:53 GMT
#6
You kill tank lines with air control and better positioning. Or you can try bio on very big maps and try multi-pronged attacks, but that's really hard to pull off. I played an hour long tvt on shakuras yesterday. I lost air control, so I took the Xel'naga towers. Those stop your opponent from abusing his vikings.

After you gain air control, you just leapfrog your tanks slowly and destroy theirs with your longer range. And/or get banshees/bc's and destroy their tanks.
SecondChance
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia603 Posts
September 06 2011 11:01 GMT
#7
Yea, it's kinda horrible. I never play tank viking or mech and pray that we spwn at cross positions with a watch tower inbetween us; haha.

Bio tank ftw.
I see the want to in your eyes.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
September 06 2011 11:05 GMT
#8
I used to hate it, but then I saw Jinro playing a TvT and I dun went and changed my opinion, that was awesome. It's definitely more strategic than any other matchup, with tons of little tricks you can do to get an edge. Like landing a mule in his tankline to make him shoot himself or landing your scouting rax to take the first volley as you attack.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
phoenixfeather95
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
665 Posts
September 06 2011 11:25 GMT
#9
Play like TLO :D
@dbrisingr
CooDu
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia899 Posts
September 06 2011 11:33 GMT
#10
Probably my favourite matchup, usually going for good old Tank/Viking, makes for some awesome games.
Just a simple guy, going wherever this journey takes me.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
September 06 2011 11:51 GMT
#11
Bio timing attacks. Go Polt-style. Ends things quickly (for either you or your opponent). :D
i_imperator
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Ireland94 Posts
September 06 2011 11:53 GMT
#12
I've heard that zvz is way worse than tvt. Just go for mass air, tanks cant shoot up, and make sur you have vikings to defend. If you dont wanna do that then just nuke him. That should get him to move those tanks!
heha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia425 Posts
September 06 2011 12:05 GMT
#13
Been trying 1 rax FE into pure Bio TvP style in TvT recently, works soooo deliciously. The mech/tank players these days just are too scared to unsiege, lest they get mauled by marauders... *drool* works high masters NA/SEA, so I've gotta be doing something right
Random for life! phoneheha
CooDu
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia899 Posts
September 06 2011 12:06 GMT
#14
Not a bad idea heha, going to try this out !!
Just a simple guy, going wherever this journey takes me.
Deadlyfish
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1980 Posts
September 06 2011 12:14 GMT
#15
Yea i feel the same. When my opponent has a tank line, turrets around his base etc, what the fuck can i do. I cant attack at all, so i'm forced to just wait. Usually i'll try and attack or drop but it always ends up biting me in the ass.

So you end up trying to switch into BC's and then someone randomly wins after 40mins of pure shit, i hate it.
If wishes were horses we'd be eating steak right now.
Zombie_Velociraptor
Profile Joined May 2011
274 Posts
September 06 2011 12:15 GMT
#16
A single Banshee in tank line stand offs makes massive difference; and if he invests so much in air that you can't make enough vikings to keep it alive, suicide EVERY viking you have (use them to harass mineral lines or whatever), make some thors, and smash. Siege tanks with a few thors in front break siege lines very well.
impression
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
413 Posts
September 06 2011 12:23 GMT
#17
I hated TvT so much i switched races. That, and I wanted to play zerg anyway. And now ZvZ is my worst MU although lately I have been doing better.
행운을 빌어요 재미
jimbob615
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Uruguay455 Posts
September 06 2011 12:24 GMT
#18
there's so many different options available for you to try!

lately i'm doing the reaper marauder ghost rush... works good so far :D

and then there's the thor rush... always very very strong against marine tank, banshee or blue flame drops. only weak vs mass racks MM with stim which is fairly rare.
redoxx
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States333 Posts
September 06 2011 12:57 GMT
#19
TvT is really hard, but it's also the mirror matchup that requires the most skill. It reminds me of chess with all the emphasis placed on positioning and control of important areas. Also, counterattacking using drops or hellions is so important not to kill the opponent, but to win positioning and gain aggressive momentum. I wouldn't say I'm any good at the matchup, but it's the one I see the post possibilities in.
The horror...the horror
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
September 06 2011 13:36 GMT
#20
You can always siege up and cross your fingers so that opponent unsieges first. You can always order a kebap or two in the process, light a cigarette, do usual msn-facebook thing, watch streams too.

When I offrace as T, I never trust my CPU and usually do a Polt style big 2 base marauder-tank timing with some little help from starport units (see: GSL Super Tournament finals) or marine-tank orientated play which is very micro intensive with some help from marauders and starport units, mostly raven and viking and I also have seen mobility orientated terran strategies work at highest levels (see: Nada vs Keen, Nada did it to win against Keen and Keen did it back to Nada and he almost won), getting mass bio, mainly marauders and some marines, and hellions and dropping everywhere might work well against tank heavy players (see: MMA vs sC from last GSTL, SlayerS vs fOu, the last game). If you split your bio well, you can always take down tank heavy play. That's what Polt means to me.
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