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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-01 13:49:07
September 01 2011 13:42 GMT
#41
TheStC is rated so highly because he has a high elo in the foreigner scene.
On September 01 2011 21:21 Markwerf wrote:
since you're using a max formula it would be interesting to see for the players which of the 3 arguments is responsible for their score. Apparently the highest international elo's are higher then the korean elo as is reflected in bomber being on top, knowing stuff like this can put the list into perspective.
Everyone except for Leenock used the combined ranking where possible.

I do think the third argument (Average(Kor Elo, Int Elo)) needs to be changed or even removed as I think that argument is responsible for the unusually high scoring players as Bomber etc.
I don't really buy the argument that bomber is nearly as good as Nestea or MVP simply because he did well in a foreign tournament as well. I think that it's without doubt Nestea (and maybe MVP after this GSL) are by far the best players and the ELO rankings should reflect that. Averaging with the inflated ELO is a dodgy way to go about it that's for sure.
Bomber is #2 on the Korea ELO at the moment. So it's not that unreasonable for him to leap over Nestea, I'm personally more worried about MCs placement. And yeah, Bomber beat MVP last time they played.. so I dno why you're so worried about him when there are many other anomalies. I think that I should change the decay factor (which was included before the average calculation) to a game threshold rather than simply requiring a game to have been played in the last month. Something like, min. 15 games played in last 3 months or something with every game under that subtracting 10 points, when you reach 0 games played you are removed.

Ideally I think the two elo's would simply be merged into one but with a proper way to adress korean events as more important then non-korean events. Giving GSL etc the highest K-value etc.
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September 01 2011 16:08 GMT
#42
two protoss in top 25 makes me so sad
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