EPT[SC2] Top 50 September 2011 - Page 2
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Animzor
Sweden2154 Posts
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CortoMontez
Australia608 Posts
max{Kor Elo, Int Elo - 195, Average(Kor Elo, Int Elo)} But I think that for the sake of consistency the formula should be altered to: max{Kor Elo, Int Elo - 195, Average(Kor Elo, Int Elo - 195)} This is so that when averaged, the international ELO isn't artificially inflated. EDIT: Typo | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
 Every month please please! | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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blahz0r
3030 Posts
I agree with most of the players listed in the top 30. Good job on the write, forgot to mention that earlier | ||
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GetAtMe
42 Posts
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rift
1819 Posts
Oh, another thought: from month to month, some Koreans in the international TLPD will sit at a high Elo simply because they haven't participated in any competitions. Really, the same goes for any player. I think for the long term, a decay system like the KeSPA ranking uses might be a good idea. | ||
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rift
1819 Posts
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FuRong
New Zealand3089 Posts
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Scorch
Austria3371 Posts
On September 01 2011 14:57 Plexa wrote: Moreover, this is also to gauge interest in such a monthly ranking. I'd love to have a monthly textual ranking which takes into account not only results and stats, but actual gameplay quality and skill. It'd reflect the author's subjective views on players' scariness and power. Like a "Power Rank" if you will. + Show Spoiler + WHY IS THERE NO SC2 POWER RANK? That said, this ranking looks like a surprisingly accurate representation of who the best players are. This is interesting to me because losing in the first round of a tournament doesn't cost more ELO points than losing in the finals. | ||
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blah_blah
346 Posts
On September 01 2011 15:14 Emporio wrote: How official do games have to be in order to count for the ELO? Because I could imagine that QXC has a monstrous Korean ELO as a result of his all-kill. Do you even know how ELO works? Beating a bunch of scrubs (and MVP around the nadir of his ELO), and compiling an 8-10 record overall doesn't work out to a 'monstrous Korean ELO'. In fact his ELO is below 2000, i.e., lower than it was after his first game played. | ||
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On September 01 2011 18:11 Scorch wrote: Theres no SC2 powerrank because the SC2 scene isn't developed enough yet.I'd love to have a monthly textual ranking which takes into account not only results and stats, but actual gameplay quality and skill. It'd reflect the author's subjective views on players' scariness and power. Like a "Power Rank" if you will. + Show Spoiler + WHY IS THERE NO SC2 POWER RANK? That said, this ranking looks like a surprisingly accurate representation of who the best players are. This is interesting to me because losing in the first round of a tournament doesn't cost more ELO points than losing in the finals. | ||
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Markwerf
Netherlands3728 Posts
Also @ Cortomonez using max{Kor Elo, Int Elo - 195, Average(Kor Elo, Int Elo - 195)} makes absolutely no sense. max{Kor Elo, Int Elo - 195, Average(Kor Elo, Int Elo - 195)} = max{Kor Elo, Int Elo - 195} The average of two numbers is never larger then the largest of those two numbers... I'm not saying the way the 'overall ELO' is calculated now is the best choice (as I haven't looked into what these ELO's are based on really, how each match is valued etc.) but I think it's ok. I do think the third argument (Average(Kor Elo, Int Elo)) needs to be changed or even removed as I think that argument is responsible for the unusually high scoring players as Bomber etc. I don't really buy the argument that bomber is nearly as good as Nestea or MVP simply because he did well in a foreign tournament as well. I think that it's without doubt Nestea (and maybe MVP after this GSL) are by far the best players and the ELO rankings should reflect that. Averaging with the inflated ELO is a dodgy way to go about it that's for sure. Ideally I think the two elo's would simply be merged into one but with a proper way to adress korean events as more important then non-korean events. Giving GSL etc the highest K-value etc. | ||
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Emporio
United States3069 Posts
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mewo
United States221 Posts
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Grettin
42416 Posts
Good job, gief more in the future! ps. i also like the idea of SC2 Power Rank. | ||
Wunder
United Kingdom2950 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On September 01 2011 14:59 travis wrote: I keep seeing people rating stephano so highly. Is he really that good? I thought he was very inconsistent. Also, how is there no naniwa. okok I get it you just used point systems that already exist but still I think it's wrong with no naniwa lol stephano is actually pretty consistent when you look at all the tournaments he's been in, but yeah more power to Plexa for trying to do something like this x-x Your foreigner spread is quite interesting indeed. qxc so high from his gstl wins? o-O I think we're still long way away from seeing Power Rank for SC2. Really no point for it at the moment too. | ||
Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
On September 01 2011 15:59 Animzor wrote: TheSTC most overrated player ever? Overrated means that people subjectively judge that a player is better than he objectively is. Since this list is based on Elo, which is objective no subjective, you can't use it as evidence that a player is overrated. Rather, I'd say it supports many people's high regard for TheStc, and suggests that all he is lacking is a big tournament result. Interesting list Plexa. | ||
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