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dkpl
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada1485 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-09 19:55:52
September 09 2011 19:49 GMT
#41
I have your Pyro Jack recipe here, but it's really long Plus I had to do a lot of guess-work due to not knowing exactly how the fusion rules work and not having all the information on your personas. I'm going to hope for the best, but this persona would be quite good if this recipe ends up being successful

There's about 5 fuses in total. Each fusion has some specific rules you need to follow, so be very prebeared to spend a long time on this. Also, save between each step.

+ Show Spoiler +

The goal of this recipe is to fuse Pyro Jack and inherit the following 3 skills:
- Auto-tarukaja
- Fire Boost
- Invigorate 2

By itself, Pyro Jack will learn maragion, auto-rakukaja and resist ice, but it may require a bit of leveling after the fuse to learn everything.


1) Get to level 32 on your main character
1a) Optional goal: Get Yosuke's social link as high as possible.


2) Get a level 15 Eligor. There's two ways you can go about this:
i) Fuse Orobas + Cu Sith
Eligor can inherit absolutely anything here from the fusion.
ii) Buy a base Eligor (level 12) and level it up 3 times

Depending on your social link rank with Chie, you might need to do 2 anyway. Doing the first step can speed it up a little. Just a reminder that you can do the same thing you did with Ukobach in the Jack Frost fusion for fast leveling (except in Rise's dungeon this time).

At level 15, Eligor learns Fire Boost.


3) Fuse Eligor (from above) + Valkyrie

The result is Jack Frost, but you already have one. This Jack Frost is a temporary stepping stone for this recipe, don't worry if it sucks ass (which it will). If you're currently carrying another Jack Frost, you need to discard that one first. When you fuse this Jack Frost, do NOT save it to your compendium.

Jack Frost must inherit Bufu and Fire Boost, but NOT any physical skills (Poison Skewer and Cleave). Should be pretty easy.


4) Fuse Jack Frost (from above) + Mokoi

The result should be King Frost. Once again, King Frost must inherit Bufu and Fire Boost, but NOT any physical skills (Sonic Punch and Hysterical Slap).


5) You now have 3 ingredients to make Pyro Jack with the 3 skills we want:
King Frost (Fire Boost) + Rakshasa (Auto-tarukaja) + Ganga (Invigorate 2)

But Rakshasa is not a very good persona to make Pyro Jack because it has a tonne of physical skills, which Pyro Jack will favour over the 3 skills we want. Thankfully, Titan of the same arcana as Rakshasa, can give us the same result. Proceed to step 6 if you want an easier time making Pyro Jack.


6) Fuse Rakshasa + Valkyrie

The result should be Titan. Titan must inherit auto-tarukaja. Bonus points if it inherits bufu as well. Titan must try not to inherit any physical skills (most of the skills from Rakshasa, unfortunately). This one might be a little difficult. If it ends up taking too much time, 1 physical skill inherited is acceptable.

7) Fuse King Frost (from above) + Titan (from above) + Ganga

Pyro Jack must inherit Invigorate 2, Fire Boost, and Auto-tarukaja. It's easier than the method from step 5, but still very very difficult. Keep redoing until you get all 3, it'll be worth it

If you successfully made this Pyro Jack, then Phoenix is already obsolete You leveled much faster than I expected, and I didn't account for the low rank Sun link when making the Phoenix, so it actually didn't get very strong in the end. Sorry!
Anopob: also, in between the most familiar parts, necrofantasy is like kekeke and necrofantasia is like bum b um bum
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-11 08:51:30
September 11 2011 06:31 GMT
#42
tytytyty

I'm gonna stream tomorrow probably, other things been going on this weekend :p
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
September 12 2011 04:46 GMT
#43
Gonna start streaming now. Sorry I haven't been playing very much this weekend but I've been pretty busy.
kyarisan
Profile Joined May 2010
United States347 Posts
September 12 2011 07:01 GMT
#44
did you post this recently...? lol
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
September 12 2011 10:12 GMT
#45
Watched some vods, made me want to play this game.
Could you send me some screenshots of what plugins you use and with which settings ? I don't manage fo have the FMV playing without skips
mrmin123 *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Korea (South)2971 Posts
September 13 2011 11:14 GMT
#46
Had fun watching this last night. Hope you stream again soon :o
Translator태양은 묘지위에 붉게 떠오르고 / 한낮에 찌는 더위는 나의 시련 일찌라!
dkpl
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada1485 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-13 21:59:25
September 13 2011 21:58 GMT
#47
Lol, I watched the vod of what I missed when I went to sleep from the Sunday night/Monday morning playthrough. Imagine my surprise when there were another 2.5 hours worth of gameplay after I left.


Anyway, I basically have a new persona recipe (almost) ready (It's gonna fix all your SP problems). I was going to wait until the next time you stream to talk about it, but just in case I miss the start or whatever, what you can do is start doing the devil link (the night hospital job) asap. A good achievable goal would be rank 5, but the higher the better. Try to do it every time the link becomes available (Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, I think)
Anopob: also, in between the most familiar parts, necrofantasy is like kekeke and necrofantasia is like bum b um bum
aisight
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States145 Posts
September 13 2011 22:27 GMT
#48
Technically if you want to bore yourself to tears you can attempt to Fusion Forecast a Skill Changed Victory Cry and it'll solve all of your battling issues ever.
dkpl
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada1485 Posts
September 13 2011 23:07 GMT
#49
Skill change abuse does make the game a bit too easy, and I have a feeling that's not something Angra wants

I know I'm probably a minority here, but I actually enjoy piecing together a legitimate recipe for a strong persona from scratch, so I wouldn't advocate doing it either.
Anopob: also, in between the most familiar parts, necrofantasy is like kekeke and necrofantasia is like bum b um bum
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-14 05:42:19
September 14 2011 05:36 GMT
#50
I WANT AS MUCH OF A CHALLENGE AS I CAN although not too hard because I'm actually really bad

I'm streaming now :>
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 08:21:12
September 16 2011 08:10 GMT
#51
edit: jk, streaming tomorrow :3
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
September 17 2011 04:47 GMT
#52
I'm playing it right now, and have to say I'm addicted
Starting the 3rd dungeon, I'm at June 25th, 2011. I fear it's the moment that you're becoming too powerful and the game starts to be too easy, hope it's only temporary.
1st dungeon was average-hard, 2nd was hard, 3rd is average, I passed the first 4 floors on autoattack, which I wasn't able to do at first in the first 2 dungeons.
Perhaps the fusion forecast of June 21st is the source of my "problem" (Bonus S. Link EXP, Bonus stats and random Bonus Recovery skill), spent a couple hours fusing and got a few of nice personae.
Anyway, will play the 3rd after this one, good game. It's remind me of sengoku rance (with a different fighting part) with the links to make grow.
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 05:23:49
September 17 2011 05:23 GMT
#53
I think if you're playing it on Normal difficulty and then put in a lot of effort into grinding levels and making really nice personas it's definitely going to feel a lot easier than it should at some parts. I definitely should have done Hard difficulty when I started this playthrough. Normal is only really challenging when you're playing pretty fast through the game and you aren't really grinding at all. Then again, it's the story and feel of the game in general which made me love it to begin with, so I dunno. :p

Also I saw your post above asking for the plugins and stuff I use, do you mean for the PCSX2 emulator? I can give some screenshots for what I have set up.


I'm going to be streaming in just a few minutes here.
dkpl
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada1485 Posts
September 17 2011 05:54 GMT
#54
Actually, many people do notice the extreme drop in difficulty after the first two dungeons. It's extremely noticeable for people who have a little experience in persona games and know a little bit on how to fuse personas.

I think it also has to do with having extra party members join you and alleviating the early SP problems. Angra still has a bit of trouble because he spends his SP like it's water from the tap

P3 should be a little different. Dungeons and shadows are overall harder, due to random floor effects, the Reaper, and hard (red) shadows actually being hard. (P4 hard shadows = shadows from a later floor in the same dungeon, P3 hard shadows = shadows from the next segment of the dungeon, which is like facing a shadow from the next dungeon in P4)


I'll tune into the stream a little later tonight
Anopob: also, in between the most familiar parts, necrofantasy is like kekeke and necrofantasia is like bum b um bum
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 13:17:22
September 17 2011 12:55 GMT
#55
On September 17 2011 14:23 Angra wrote:
I think if you're playing it on Normal difficulty and then put in a lot of effort into grinding levels and making really nice personas it's definitely going to feel a lot easier than it should at some parts. I definitely should have done Hard difficulty when I started this playthrough. Normal is only really challenging when you're playing pretty fast through the game and you aren't really grinding at all. Then again, it's the story and feel of the game in general which made me love it to begin with, so I dunno. :p

Also I saw your post above asking for the plugins and stuff I use, do you mean for the PCSX2 emulator? I can give some screenshots for what I have set up.


I'm going to be streaming in just a few minutes here.

yep for PCSX2
edit : well, saved after 4th floor yesterday, 5th floor is way more serious, so it's cool <3
kyarisan
Profile Joined May 2010
United States347 Posts
September 18 2011 10:19 GMT
#56
i've been trying to get pcsx2 working for me as well (not necessarily to play this game), but i'm noticing a severe drop in framerate after the start of some games for no reason and my PC should honestly be able to handle it. did you have any problems like this at first? and if i need to experiment with different video settings or plugins, which ones make a difference? thx when you get around to it
dkpl
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada1485 Posts
September 18 2011 21:17 GMT
#57
I hated messing around with PCSX2 because most of the time, I really had no idea what I was doing. But yeah, I think that's really all you could do. Change a setting that you think might make a difference, then load up your game and see if you get any different results. Off the top of my head, the video plugins and speedhacks make a pretty big difference. Do note with the speedhacks, it's possible for them to introduce new problems.

I remember spending a couple hours straight messing with the settings before I finally got FFX to run the opening cutscene without it lagging below 50 fps.

That's why I eventually gave up. Unless you have a good reason to play on an emulator (streaming), just play on your PS2, it'll save you a million headaches.
Anopob: also, in between the most familiar parts, necrofantasy is like kekeke and necrofantasia is like bum b um bum
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
September 19 2011 06:26 GMT
#58
There's one tab somewhere in the PCSX2 menus that has checkboxes for a few different games that helps with compatibility. From what I understand each game takes different settings depending on what it is.

There's a PCSX2 wiki here that you can use to look up a lot of games, and it gives guidelines for what settings you should be using in general to have each game run smoothly: http://pcsx2.wikia.com/wiki/PCSX2_Wiki

I messed around with some settings after looking at the Persona 4 page on there and it did help a bit.
kyarisan
Profile Joined May 2010
United States347 Posts
September 19 2011 07:03 GMT
#59
; ; damn, my game isnt listed on here. oh well. may just use the ps2, lol.

are you streaming tonight? your alert came on earlier but i havent seen anything
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 07:35:08
September 19 2011 07:34 GMT
#60
I won't be tonight, I have a terrible headache. I was just streaming for some vent friends for a few minutes earlier tonight showing them how to play the flash game QWOP, haha.

I feel bad because I haven't been playing much lately, I've had a pretty busy weekend. Hopefully I'll be playing again soon though. I'll try to stream tomorrow night.

Also the best suggestion I can give you then for the emulator is to either try some settings for a game that is listed that might be similar, or just mess around until something works. :p The majority of settings just makes games worse than better usually, unfortunately, haha.
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