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Hi
This is a rage/help/question topic.
I'm plat. I know every fucking thing on this game. I know when I should drop gas depending on the strat on all 3 races. I know how many productions facilitys X bases can support. I know when to tech, I know why pro makes Y decision.
But i'm still on plat and still lose to fucking shitty players. I coached a 15 year old kid to play this game. He's on masters now.
I've been practicing 4 weeks non-stop. The kid stopped playing for 2 months. When he came back to this fucking game, he is still on masters and still fucking beat me.
That's it: I'm quitting zerg or I'm quitting starcraft.
Maybe I don't have talent. I was not supposed to be pro, maybe I'm supposed to be just a fun boy that watches streams.
Practice DOES NOT makes perfection. Talent does.
So...
-Quit SC
-Quit Zerg
-Quit QQing and go practice nah, i'm not improving. I wont practice if I dont see progress. I lose to a fucking 15 years old kid.
Which one?
So, do you need to watch my replays to see how bad I am? Nah, I'm not posting replays, I know every thing I'm supposed to do and still cant get it right on the game.
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I think this should probably be a blog since you're not actually asking anything strategy related, but you don't have infinite free time. Use it in a way you enjoy, whether that's playing something else, playing a different race, or juggling lions. Enjoy yourself in the way that's best for you.
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Seems like you've already decided, not seeing how we could discuss any of this.
I will say, you can know what you're supposed to do, and when you're supposed to do it - -- but you're still make bad decisions in games/have bad games/streaks, practice really does help and the rewarding feeling is worth it.
(Plat T ---> just started playing moved up to rank one through the use of this forum's discussions)
p.s. don't give up!
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sounds like you suck at this game xD
oh and happy birthday
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On August 27 2011 09:56 DW-Unrec wrote:
Hi
This is a rage/help/question topic.
I'm plat. I know every fucking thing on this game. I know when I should drop gas depending on the strat on all 3 races. I know how many productions facilitys X bases can support. I know when to tech, I know why pro makes Y decision.
But i'm still on plat and still lose to fucking shitty players. I coached a 15 year old kid to play this game. He's on masters now.
I've been practicing 4 weeks non-stop. The kid stopped playing for 2 months. When he came back to this fucking game, he is still on masters and still fucking beat me.
That's it: I'm quitting zerg or I'm quitting starcraft.
Maybe I don't have talent. I was not supposed to be pro, maybe I'm supposed to be just a fun boy that watches streams.
Practice DOES NOT makes perfection. Talent does.
So...
-Quit SC
-Quit Zerg
-Quit QQing and go practice nah, i'm not improving. I wont practice if I dont see progress. I lose to a fucking 15 years old kid.
Which one?
So, do you need to watch my replays to see how bad I am? Nah, I'm not posting replays, I know every thing I'm supposed to do and still cant get it right on the game.
You say you know the "right things to do," but are still in plat. Can you give us some examples where you know the right thing to do and actually do the wrong thing, or do you believe that you somehow losing despite making the correct decisions? Because that's probably not the case unless you have terribad mechanics...
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pokebunny once said, you just have to play for fun until you're pro. don't try to be pro first... i don't even like pokebunny but it's good advice, i think.
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60 early game
120~140 mid-late
240 on battles.
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Please take the time to read this entire post before ignoring me and calling all I say bs.
First of all, just because you have knowledge about the game doesn't mean you're epic at it.
Second, you're completely wrong about the "talent" statement. It's the ability to learn. If you don't watch your replays when you lose (which it sounds like you do, since you're raging about losing) then you won't improve as fast as someone who does.
Third, "i'm not improving."
How terribly wrong you are. It's just slow progression. Anyone can improve. Anyone can go pro. You just need the right mindset, enough patience, and enough time. Imo you clearly don't have the right mindset or enough patience.
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Just play the game for fun instead of improving. When I was younger I played Halo (I know I know) and one big difference I notice between how I play now and how I played back then is that back then I was just focused on playing the game. I just massed games because I had fun and I had a ton of friends on all the time.
Back then I actually got pretty good in Halo, I actually managed to get into the final round of a national Halo 3 FFA tourney (mlg rules ofc) not super special or anything but hardly scrub level either. Now I'm much more focused on improving and playing like the pro's I watch all the time and it is actually hurting my improvement more than anything. The correct mindset is to just have fun and mass games. You can know all you want about the game but only if you play with the freedom and confidence that comes from enjoying the game and not playing to improve will you actually improve past "knowing" into "executing".
Maybe it's a good idea to switch race and just play for fun and lose a ton of games. Once you get used to losing you should get more confident and enjoy the game more.
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On August 27 2011 10:02 Plexa wrote:
What is your APM?
I was wondering the same thing.
Can't help you unless you post your average APM...
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On August 27 2011 10:09 HornSnHaloS wrote:I was wondering the same thing. Can't help you unless you post your average APM...
On August 27 2011 10:05 DW-Unrec wrote:
60 early game
120~140 mid-late
240 on battles.
Does that answer your question? 
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On August 27 2011 10:06 Marsupian wrote:
Just play the game for fun instead of improving. When I was younger I played Halo (I know I know) and one big difference I notice between how I play now and how I played back then is that back then I was just focused on playing the game. I just massed games because I had fun and I had a ton of friends on all the time.
Back then I actually got pretty good in Halo, I actually managed to get into the final round of a national Halo 3 FFA tourney (mlg rules ofc) not super special or anything but hardly scrub level either. Now I'm much more focused on improving and playing like the pro's I watch all the time and it is actually hurting my improvement more than anything. The correct mindset is to just have fun and mass games. You can know all you want about the game but only if you play with the freedom and confidence that comes from enjoying the game and not playing to improve will you actually improve past "knowing" into "executing".
Maybe it's a good idea to switch race and just play for fun and lose a ton of games. Once you get used to losing you should get more confident and enjoy the game more.
This could mean going on a hiatus for Starcraft too imo. I'm on an SC2 hiatus and I'm playing Minecraft instead cause I'm frustrated about diamond league cheesers (three ppl hard countered my tvt fe cause they used various rax cheese).
Of course I'm planning on playing SC2 again tho. I found a tvt bo that might be interesting >=)
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Knowing what to do is different than executing it. Tbh there is most likely some flaw in your gameplay holding you back. I know I feel I have a decent understanding of the game but can identify flaws in my play holding me back from masters.
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From the sounds of it, you should quit. Take time off, at the very least.
"I know every thing I'm supposed to do and still cant get it right on the game."
I suspect this statement is actually your problem.
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On August 27 2011 10:10 Antylamon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2011 10:09 HornSnHaloS wrote:On August 27 2011 10:02 Plexa wrote:
What is your APM? I was wondering the same thing. Can't help you unless you post your average APM... Show nested quote +On August 27 2011 10:05 DW-Unrec wrote:
60 early game
120~140 mid-late
240 on battles. Does that answer your question?
It was a joke because he's obviously arrogant about the game and people like that tend to brag about apm as well...
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In all seriousness though you don't understand everything about the game, the fact that you cited things like how many structures per base can be supported is testament to your knowledge being fact based and not in the context of a game.
How many games have you played?
How are your mechanics?
Post replays you have looked over yourself and can't figure out why you lost.
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For me "play for fun" is getting into masters/GM, winning money from small cups. I cant do either 
I hate pros, they can practice with someone that is really good. How am I supposed to be as good as they are If my practice partners spam 2v2s and customs all day long?
My apm is ok, I never get above 10 larva when playing on 2 base. I know what I do wrong, but I forget EVERYTHING while I'm playing. This is something no guides on TL can help me. Every time I see a strategy topic I say "oh, that's old. I already knew that.". Practicing doesnt help me either.
The biggest proof that talent DOES exist is: people with 2000+ ladder wins that's still on plat.
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Looking at your past posts, to be honest, the trend that I see in your attitude is that you feel like you should be the best, and yet you refuse to acknowledge that you aren't.
So, do you need to watch my replays to see how bad I am? Nah, I'm not posting replays, I know every thing I'm supposed to do and still cant get it right on the game.
This pretty much sums up your entire view of SC2, and I can tell you that's completely wrong. I'm pretty sure if you knew EXACTLY what to do, you could make diamond/maybe masters with 30-40 apm. Perhaps not with zerg, but I still think you could.
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play a game that respects ur talents (bw).
just kidding but give it a shot, maybe you'll be better at it. it sounds like you can put in a lot of work, so you shouldn't have any problem getting decent at brood war.
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