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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24752 Posts
August 26 2011 20:17 GMT
#1
Can't really think of a more creative title for this blog...

Since I've been having so much trouble with tearing my fingers up, my pro suggested I try the overlapping grip instead of the interlocking grip. Since then I've gone to the range twice and played 18 holes and have no had any significant problem with my hands! Problem #1 seems to be solved for now.

Problem #2 however, the fact that the golf ball doesn't go where I want it to, still lingers. Check out the scorecard for 18 holes I played today:

[image loading]

I'm not too happy with this round, although to be fair I did change my grip 2 days ago...

I was kind of on tilt on the front 9 and couldn't do anything right. I calmed down on the back and got my focus back (including putting decently) until around 16-17 when I ran out of gas (there was no snack bar on the course and I was walking).

People always tell me "spend the majority of your practice time on the short game." While it's true I could have shaved about 3-4 strokes off my round with better putting, my chipping and pitching was pretty good.

I was struggling a bit with dealing with a slice (with my woods) that I developed when I changed my grip... what seems to happen is if I try to adjust my swing to not slice it, I either pull or hook it instead :/ I just need more days on the range to fix this I think... I finally feel like I'll have my woods under control soon.

My irons were very hot and cold. I hit a few good shots, and a bunch of terrible ones. I should be able to hit short to middle irons off the fairway without much difficulty, but that just never seems to become a reality for me.

I did something very brave: took a 5 wood off the deck for my second shot on a par 5. For whatever reason I've always had lots of difficulty taking woods off the grass instead of a tee. I was pleasantly surprised when I actually got a decent result (the trajectory was lower than I wanted but it was a solid hit and the hold was downhill so it worked out fine).

I had one hole (the X) where I picked up. What seems to happen with me is I sometimes have a bad tee shot (let's say I hit it OB) followed by a slightly less bad second shot from the tee leaving me in a crappy lie behind a tree and under branches and god knows what else... even if I cheat a bit and move it to a better position to try to take the edge off, it's still a bad place to be. And because it's a tricky shot and I'm already frustrated with my first two shots I mess up and hit a shot that goes let's say 30 yards and in the wrong direction. Now I'm in tall rough and decide I'll just do a 40 yard punch shot to an accessible part of the fairway rather than far around with some crazy hero shot through 50 trees, but I'm already so messed up by all the previous shots that I duff it and am still in rough. By this point no matter how impatient I've been I can't contain my frustration/anger any more and there becomes a 100% chance that my next shot won't be successful. So.... when this starts to happen I just pick up and give myself whatever the max score is that I'm allowed per equitable stroke control...not exactly how golf is supposed to work but it makes me feel better. I really don't know what to do when bad shots cause me to be unable to hit shots anymore... even if I completely put whatever is bothering me out of my mind and just focus on doing my usual swing and not worrying about the result/etc I still end up with a bad result almost every time. Oh, this game...

But anything that went poorly I'll just chalk up (once again) to playing with a new grip. Funny enough, I still use my interlocking grip when I putt :D I assume that isn't a big problem...

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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
August 26 2011 20:19 GMT
#2
What Happened on number 6?

Ive been really strugling with my game. Last year i was avging in the low 90's now im unplayable again.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24752 Posts
August 26 2011 20:21 GMT
#3
On August 27 2011 05:19 Darkdeath3 wrote:
What Happened on number 6?

Ive been really strugling with my game. Last year i was avging in the low 90's now im unplayable again.

I explain it in the paragraph that starts with "I had one hole..."
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Blondinbengt
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden578 Posts
August 26 2011 20:24 GMT
#4
I actually used to have the exactly same problem, almost tore the skin off my palms whenever I hit. Then I switched from interlocking to overlapping and no more problems.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24752 Posts
August 26 2011 20:25 GMT
#5
On August 27 2011 05:24 Blondinbengt wrote:
I actually used to have the exactly same problem, almost tore the skin off my palms whenever I hit. Then I switched from interlocking to overlapping and no more problems.

My palms weren't that bad... my problem was my fingers (where they can rub together).
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25991 Posts
August 26 2011 20:32 GMT
#6
What's overlapping versus interlocking grip? I hook my pinky between my middle and index fingers and align my thumbs down the club. Is that interlocking? I love that grip

My game is pretty bad this year. Driver is working, long irons (>150) are working. Anything 110-140 range is terrible and 80-50 is also terrible. Chipping is terrible. 100 yard approach and bump and run are working very well.

If I could switch my long game skill with my short game skill I'd drop 10 strokes easily.

Also, image hosting is blocked at work so I can't see your scorecard

Do you golf with good friends? Do you drink while you golf? That could help take the edge off.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24752 Posts
August 26 2011 20:39 GMT
#7
On August 27 2011 05:32 Chill wrote:
What's overlapping versus interlocking grip? I hook my pinky between my middle and index fingers and align my thumbs down the club. Is that interlocking? I love that grip

[image loading]

^For a rightie

My game is pretty bad this year. Driver is working, long irons (>150) are working. Anything 110-140 range is terrible and 80-50 is also terrible. Chipping is terrible. 100 yard approach and bump and run are working very well.

If I could switch my long game skill with my short game skill I'd drop 10 strokes easily.

Man how can your long irons work and your mid/short irons not work LOL that's weird to me. Usually the longer the iron the less likely I'll hit it right. I think it's easier to fix difficulty with shorter irons than difficulty with longer irons so you might be in good shape.

Also, image hosting is blocked at work so I can't see your scorecard
Basically I shot 103 on a par 72 (slope 122) which I'm not happy with. On the front I did worse (54) and on the back better (49). I might have broken 100 if I had eaten more food, but I doubt I would have done much better than that.

Do you golf with good friends? Do you drink while you golf? That could help take the edge off.
I have about 5-6 different groups of people who I golf with sometimes, but nobody regularly. I usually am walking when I play golf, and it's pretty hot, so I stick to water and sports-drinks. Maybe in cooler weather I'd slip some rum into my coke or something XD
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
August 26 2011 21:32 GMT
#8
Well, on the plus side you aren't getting injured anymore, so thats a good thing.

It sounds from your post like the grip change thing was fairly recent, and I know in my case anytime I make a big change like that it takes quite awhile before I start to feel comfortable with it on the course.

As a random aside I played a round recently with some dude that had nothing but hybrids...and a putter. Seriously, this guy had like the hybrid equivalent of a 60. Also played a fun round recently where I caught up to another group and they just invited me to join them. Needless to say it was an entertaining experience, they were all drinking; and to top ot off had brought a boombox with them they had set in the cart,so the entire round we were listening to System of a Down and shit while playing golf, it was quite fun to be honest. Good thing there weren't many people on the course though.
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Pillage
Profile Joined July 2011
United States804 Posts
August 26 2011 22:07 GMT
#9
Ahh my short game is whats holding me back too. Whenever I put an approach within 30 feet and 3 putt, I rage pretty hard. I can hit my driver 260-280 no problem and can Hit a 3 iron 210. I still need to buy some fairway woods so I can fill in the ~230 yard range. My 8 iron - Wedges are bad too, I try to drive through the ball too much and they come off the club flat. My putting, chipping and bunker play really hurt me though, as well as having one hole where I triple bogey or worse. I average about 94-95 for 18 holes. I could easily be in the high 80's if I fixed my short game, maybe mid 80s if I really worked on it.

If I could switch my long game skill with my short game skill I'd drop 10 strokes easily.


If I could take 50 yards off my drive and have Phil Mickelson short game, I'd do it in a heartbeat lol.
"Power has no limits." -Tiberius
sechkie
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States334 Posts
August 26 2011 23:12 GMT
#10
when I'm struggling with my mindset and pissed off (happens a lot I tell you) I just run up to my next tee and just mash the ball. Nothing feels better than hitting that perfect shot although if I hit a terrible shot I just get more pissed >.< lol. But for the swing changes yeah those things are tough, I'm currently trying to adjust my grip and change my swing to be a little wider throughout and taller at the top and I'm really struggling with my ball striking. I'm averaging about 87-88 when before I was down at the 80-82 range. I just decided to give up and just play for fun not caring about making myself "better" and just try to have fun
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25991 Posts
September 20 2011 15:28 GMT
#11
I shot a legit 88 last week, which is the best score of my life. Golf is so random. I played 36 holes of miniputt between that round and the previous 100+ round, and I think at least 10 of those strokes were putts. The other ~5 were 3-5 irons working finally. And with that, the season is basically over -_-. Good timing, golf.
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Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-20 15:37:12
September 20 2011 15:32 GMT
#12
Perhaps I just missed it but where on your hands did you get blisters with the interlocking grip? The only place I have issues is on my right thumb on the inside part right on the knuckle. I usually have to tape the hell out of it after 4 or 5 holes so if this can save me I'd be up for trying it at the range.

Edit - I'm right handed
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Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-20 16:36:30
September 20 2011 16:35 GMT
#13
Scratch golfer here. The short game can't be emphasized enough. That is the part of the game that you see results out of practicing, if you want lower scores, you need to be able to get up and down with a pretty good regularity.

I've always felt like the long game is mostly just natural athletic talent. Try and get your swing as standard and on plane as possible, it's really all you can do.

edit: Also, if you're getting blisters, your grip is incorrect. Try keeping the club in the palm of your left hand and the fingers of your right. (for righties). Grip pressure should be 3 or 4 out of 10 (being squeezing as hard as you can). Hold it as you would a bird.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
September 20 2011 17:20 GMT
#14
On September 21 2011 00:28 Chill wrote:
I shot a legit 88 last week, which is the best score of my life. Golf is so random. I played 36 holes of miniputt between that round and the previous 100+ round, and I think at least 10 of those strokes were putts. The other ~5 were 3-5 irons working finally. And with that, the season is basically over -_-. Good timing, golf.

There a reason why you always do well on the 18th hole. They just want to pull you back for more torture.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
September 20 2011 17:36 GMT
#15
I've played golf once. It's something I want to get into but I'm terrible at aiming.

I was probably 3-4 over par on every hole except for the last, which strangely I got a hole in one on. I attribute that to using a tee someone else left.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
September 20 2011 19:17 GMT
#16
On September 21 2011 02:36 Serejai wrote:
I've played golf once. It's something I want to get into but I'm terrible at aiming.

I was probably 3-4 over par on every hole except for the last, which strangely I got a hole in one on. I attribute that to using a tee someone else left.

You got a hole in one your first time golfing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
September 20 2011 19:19 GMT
#17
On September 21 2011 02:36 Serejai wrote:
I've played golf once. It's something I want to get into but I'm terrible at aiming.

I was probably 3-4 over par on every hole except for the last, which strangely I got a hole in one on. I attribute that to using a tee someone else left.



Pssshaw that's nothing. Kim Jong Il had 4 in his first round.
Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
September 20 2011 19:28 GMT
#18
On September 21 2011 01:35 Zorkmid wrote:
Scratch golfer here. The short game can't be emphasized enough. That is the part of the game that you see results out of practicing, if you want lower scores, you need to be able to get up and down with a pretty good regularity.

I've always felt like the long game is mostly just natural athletic talent. Try and get your swing as standard and on plane as possible, it's really all you can do.

edit: Also, if you're getting blisters, your grip is incorrect. Try keeping the club in the palm of your left hand and the fingers of your right. (for righties). Grip pressure should be 3 or 4 out of 10 (being squeezing as hard as you can). Hold it as you would a bird.


Hmm thanks for the tip. My grip is really similar to the pics posted above (middle pic), my hands get sweaty and my non glove hand just slips around on my grip a little as I swing. It's possible I have been holding too tight though, hadn't ever thought about that.
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
September 20 2011 19:36 GMT
#19
On September 21 2011 04:28 Charger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 01:35 Zorkmid wrote:
Scratch golfer here. The short game can't be emphasized enough. That is the part of the game that you see results out of practicing, if you want lower scores, you need to be able to get up and down with a pretty good regularity.

I've always felt like the long game is mostly just natural athletic talent. Try and get your swing as standard and on plane as possible, it's really all you can do.

edit: Also, if you're getting blisters, your grip is incorrect. Try keeping the club in the palm of your left hand and the fingers of your right. (for righties). Grip pressure should be 3 or 4 out of 10 (being squeezing as hard as you can). Hold it as you would a bird.


Hmm thanks for the tip. My grip is really similar to the pics posted above (middle pic), my hands get sweaty and my non glove hand just slips around on my grip a little as I swing. It's possible I have been holding too tight though, hadn't ever thought about that.


The other thing that holding a club with a light pressure is that it frees up your wrists and shoulder muscles allowing for much more clubhead speed and power. It's a bit counter-intuitive, but the harder you swing, the slower the clubhead and less the power.
Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
September 20 2011 19:38 GMT
#20
On September 21 2011 04:36 Zorkmid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 04:28 Charger wrote:
On September 21 2011 01:35 Zorkmid wrote:
Scratch golfer here. The short game can't be emphasized enough. That is the part of the game that you see results out of practicing, if you want lower scores, you need to be able to get up and down with a pretty good regularity.

I've always felt like the long game is mostly just natural athletic talent. Try and get your swing as standard and on plane as possible, it's really all you can do.

edit: Also, if you're getting blisters, your grip is incorrect. Try keeping the club in the palm of your left hand and the fingers of your right. (for righties). Grip pressure should be 3 or 4 out of 10 (being squeezing as hard as you can). Hold it as you would a bird.


Hmm thanks for the tip. My grip is really similar to the pics posted above (middle pic), my hands get sweaty and my non glove hand just slips around on my grip a little as I swing. It's possible I have been holding too tight though, hadn't ever thought about that.


The other thing that holding a club with a light pressure is that it frees up your wrists and shoulder muscles allowing for much more clubhead speed and power. It's a bit counter-intuitive, but the harder you swing, the slower the clubhead and less the power.


I do feel quite 'tight' when I swing long irons or drives, this could kill two birds with one stone actually. I blame my damn baseball swing, shit's hard to get rid of completely.
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