This is my first blog and such, don't really expect anyone to read it -_- but I just wanted to get some stuff out. Sometimes when laddering and I am on a winning streak (I am only in bronze so nothing special) I suddenly start to feel guilty about stealing people's ladder points. I feel bad that their loss is my gain, and although I don't like losing I sometimes want to quit a game so other people can collect an undeserved win. I don't know why, and I am probably the only one who feels like this I know its irrational and weird but thats how I feel on those rare winning streaks. More often than not though I get a normal win/loss ratio though.
Feel free to post your own guilty moments here, starcraft related or not, even if its just to share and get some guilt off your chest
I started an EU account... I felt kinda bad playing the placement matches
Of course, once you're playing against equally skilled players you shouldn't feel bad (also, look at their profiles - if they've got dozens of wins and hundreds of points one games doesn't matter much).
I feel bad when someone tries dt rushing or some other blind build then they rage at me when I already have detection. The lols continue when they start bming but really, c'mon man it was obvious what you were doing because I, you know, scouted! I'm only high plat so it's fairly commonplace.
Well yeah, I come across common cheesy strats like mass voidrays, mothership rush, 6 pooling, mass ravens, battlecruiser rush etc which i scout in time and defend. Then i check their profile, they have alot of points and have played alot more games than me so i dont feel so bad, but when i beat someone who evidently tries really hard to play a straight up macro game (and i NEVER cheese, I would feel way too guilty) and then i see they have less games than me etc i feel bad and have to reason with myself that i am helping them learn.
I get ladder guilt when I random terran against toss and completely crush them with the 1-1-1 all-in despite not even knowing the terran hot keys and executing it horribly. I feel like I should apologize or something.
I feel guilty when I stay inside despite the fact that the sun is shining. That said, the sun's been up (or rather - the earth's rotation creates the illusion thereof) for about 4 hours and I will go outside now because I just can't take it anymore. T_T
I only feel guity when after spening 40-70mins of my life on a 1v1, i decimate my opponent who then leaves , no gg from him , i then msg said opponents afterwards and type "gg wp ". But they always think iøm being cocky or bm'ing when im just saying thanlkyou for a good long macro game. O.O
I don't really care about them because most of the time he will probably learn of his mistakes so in a sence , if the guy lookup his mistakes he will improve ... losing is part of the game so o guess he will just learn anyway . Don't feel guilty about a win ... YOu win that's it !
On August 25 2011 19:37 A_Bandersnatch wrote: This is my first blog and such, don't really expect anyone to read it -_- but I just wanted to get some stuff out. Sometimes when laddering and I am on a winning streak (I am only in bronze so nothing special) I suddenly start to feel guilty about stealing people's ladder points. I feel bad that their loss is my gain, and although I don't like losing I sometimes want to quit a game so other people can collect an undeserved win. I don't know why, and I am probably the only one who feels like this I know its irrational and weird but thats how I feel on those rare winning streaks. More often than not though I get a normal win/loss ratio though.
Feel free to post your own guilty moments here, starcraft related or not, even if its just to share and get some guilt off your chest
It makes sense if you're a cheeser. If you play standard every game it doesn't. Think of it like this. If you lose on purpose, the opponent will think that he's better than he actually is, which will make him feel even worse when he is losing against players that are worse than you.
The issue here is probably that you think that you haven't put up enough effort to earn beating those players. Because I play BW, where you need a lot of effort just to win your first game, I can't relate.
Start looking at the game more scientifically and fine-tune your play. This will both improve your game and make you feel like you've put some actual effort into the game. If this doesn't remove the guilt, you are just not competitive and should quit.
Why do you consider it stealing? Its not like your opponent owns the ladder points. If you win a game it is almsot entirely due to your own skills and/or strategy.
I think you need a diffrent mind set. During the game the other guy is the enemy and you must do everything in your power to defeat the enemy. After the game is the time to be the good guy and to be respectful. But during the game, go for the throat my man.
On August 25 2011 21:55 ninini wrote: It makes sense if you're a cheeser. If you play standard every game it doesn't. Think of it like this. If you lose on purpose, the opponent will think that he's better than he actually is, which will make him feel even worse when he is losing against players that are worse than you.
The issue here is probably that you think that you haven't put up enough effort to earn beating those players. Because I play BW, where you need a lot of effort just to win your first game, I can't relate.
Start looking at the game more scientifically and fine-tune your play. This will both improve your game and make you feel like you've put some actual effort into the game. If this doesn't remove the guilt, you are just not competitive and should quit.
You know, this makes sense. I'm not particularly competitive so I don't feel like losing affects me as much as it might do other people (especially after seeing all the rage and reading about it), and so I feel like i should save that person a little rage. I also feel like I should encourage standard play so if i lose a macro game I 'gg wp' and leave, but if i am cheesed and lose I don't feel they deserve a 'gg' as they have no desire to improve. Or that is how i see it. But I have been watching a lot of pros and analyzing my play and where i can improve, i try focus on a certain aspect each time i play - eg concentrate on not missing injects etc And don't get me wrong, I enjoy winning and moving up the ranks and practicing and trying to improve, but yeah. Thanks though
I only felt guilty when i 7pooled a protoss on shakuras. I never cheesed but i tried to do it more to switch it up and learn more about cheeses, but i'm just not made for that. I was close to just giving him the win, eventhough he said himself that it's a valid opening.
On August 25 2011 22:36 Morfildur wrote: I only felt guilty when i 7pooled a protoss on shakuras. I never cheesed but i tried to do it more to switch it up and learn more about cheeses, but i'm just not made for that. I was close to just giving him the win, eventhough he said himself that it's a valid opening.
I think we should make it a requirement that everyone must play a 100 2v2's that way people will realize there is no such thing as cheese. There are multiple ways to win a game of starcraft.
Definitely don't feel bad! A loss is always good to help one improve, so by beating them, you're helping them get better! You're doing them a service And if they decide to ignore the fantastic opportunity you've presented them to get better by bming and just hitting the matchmaking button straight away, that's their loss!
On August 25 2011 22:36 Morfildur wrote: I only felt guilty when i 7pooled a protoss on shakuras. I never cheesed but i tried to do it more to switch it up and learn more about cheeses, but i'm just not made for that. I was close to just giving him the win, eventhough he said himself that it's a valid opening.
I think we should make it a requirement that everyone must play a 100 2v2's that way people will realize there is no such thing as cheese. There are multiple ways to win a game of starcraft.
Some just take longer than others
I played about 200-300 2v2s in season 1, usually went for fast expand into just having more stuff than both opponents combined :p
Also, there is cheese, the only question is wether you like to gamble or not... i don't :p
On August 25 2011 22:17 A_Bandersnatch wrote:I also feel like I should encourage standard play so if i lose a macro game I 'gg wp' and leave, but if i am cheesed and lose I don't feel they deserve a 'gg' as they have no desire to improve. Or that is how i see it.
I feel the same way. It doesn't feel wrong when I win though, because I only win by outmacroing them. It happens that my opponent makes suicide moves, and sometimes I know that he is a better player than me, but I don't really feel guilty, because it was he who made the mistake. I wouldn't say something like "gg noob" in that scenario, which some players do when they manage to beat better players, but then I wouldn't say that regardless. I rage a lot when I lose though, but never against players who beat me in macro games, because it feels fair when they beat me.
On August 26 2011 00:34 Chill wrote: lol this is cute ive never heard of anyone thinking like this
Chill likes it. Means absolutely nothing is wrong But yeah I wouldn't worry about this too much o.o Bring out your inner tasteless and steal them ladder points! lol
Aw Chill thinks I'm cute. Haha, ah yeah, I will get over it. The first time I heard Tasteless say 'I'll be collecting your ladder points' I was absolutely shocked that someone could not feel guilty about collecting them. But then I figured out I was the weird one! Heh, thanks to everyone who is helping me change my attitude towards ladder much appreciated.
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I know its irrational and weird but thats how I feel on those rare winning streaks. More often than not though I get a normal win/loss ratio though.
