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impression
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
413 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 11:02:35
August 25 2011 10:37 GMT
#1
This is my first blog and such, don't really expect anyone to read it -_- but I just wanted to get some stuff out.
Sometimes when laddering and I am on a winning streak (I am only in bronze so nothing special) I suddenly start to feel guilty about stealing people's ladder points. I feel bad that their loss is my gain, and although I don't like losing I sometimes want to quit a game so other people can collect an undeserved win. I don't know why, and I am probably the only one who feels like this I know its irrational and weird but thats how I feel on those rare winning streaks. More often than not though I get a normal win/loss ratio though.

Feel free to post your own guilty moments here, starcraft related or not, even if its just to share and get some guilt off your chest

EDIT: Silver now!

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RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
August 25 2011 10:40 GMT
#2
I get my guilt from Bming.
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
DusTerr
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
2520 Posts
August 25 2011 10:44 GMT
#3
I started an EU account... I felt kinda bad playing the placement matches

Of course, once you're playing against equally skilled players you shouldn't feel bad (also, look at their profiles - if they've got dozens of wins and hundreds of points one games doesn't matter much).
brachester
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia1786 Posts
August 25 2011 10:46 GMT
#4
i feel sorry for you for feeling sorry for the others after stealing their ladder points
I hate all this singing
exShikari
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia237 Posts
August 25 2011 10:52 GMT
#5
I feel bad when someone tries dt rushing or some other blind build then they rage at me when I already have detection. The lols continue when they start bming but really, c'mon man it was obvious what you were doing because I, you know, scouted! I'm only high plat so it's fairly commonplace.
It is, in the end, whatever the Hell I want it to be, And when I'm through with it, it's gonna blow a hole, This wide, straight through the worlds own idea of itself. They're throwing bottles at your house. Come on, lets go break their arms.
phoenixfeather95
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
665 Posts
August 25 2011 11:02 GMT
#6
You're like the exact opposite of Tasteless
@dbrisingr
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
August 25 2011 11:05 GMT
#7
On August 25 2011 19:40 SEA_GenesiS wrote:
I get my guilt from Bming.

me too
and usually in the worst, ragey ways
impression
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
413 Posts
August 25 2011 11:08 GMT
#8
Well yeah, I come across common cheesy strats like mass voidrays, mothership rush, 6 pooling, mass ravens, battlecruiser rush etc which i scout in time and defend. Then i check their profile, they have alot of points and have played alot more games than me so i dont feel so bad, but when i beat someone who evidently tries really hard to play a straight up macro game (and i NEVER cheese, I would feel way too guilty) and then i see they have less games than me etc i feel bad and have to reason with myself that i am helping them learn.
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CaM27
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium392 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-25 11:11:38
August 25 2011 11:10 GMT
#9
I used to feel guilty when i laddered for diamond only by using cheese builds. Once i reached Diamond i felt really guilty :'(
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
August 25 2011 11:25 GMT
#10
I get ladder guilt when I random terran against toss and completely crush them with the 1-1-1 all-in despite not even knowing the terran hot keys and executing it horribly. I feel like I should apologize or something.
Dagobert
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Netherlands1858 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-25 11:39:47
August 25 2011 11:39 GMT
#11
I feel guilty when I stay inside despite the fact that the sun is shining. That said, the sun's been up (or rather - the earth's rotation creates the illusion thereof) for about 4 hours and I will go outside now because I just can't take it anymore. T_T
RubiksCube
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Germany259 Posts
August 25 2011 11:41 GMT
#12
Sometimes I feel guilty when I don't GG and message the player afterwards and explain that I was just pissed or something.
DH_Remorse
Profile Joined August 2011
Denmark139 Posts
August 25 2011 11:52 GMT
#13
I only feel guity when after spening 40-70mins of my life on a 1v1, i decimate my opponent who then leaves , no gg from him , i then msg said opponents afterwards and type "gg wp ". But they always think iøm being cocky or bm'ing when im just saying thanlkyou for a good long macro game. O.O
So what ,i just walk up to security and go: "Whats up bitches i'm huk!" or what... - HuK
ZergoV
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada23 Posts
August 25 2011 12:13 GMT
#14
I don't really care about them because most of the time he will probably learn of his mistakes so in a sence , if the guy lookup his mistakes he will improve ... losing is part of the game so o guess he will just learn anyway . Don't feel guilty about a win ... YOu win that's it !
Quebec represent
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-26 00:54:10
August 25 2011 12:34 GMT
#15
nvm
I had a good night of sleep.
ninini
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden1204 Posts
August 25 2011 12:55 GMT
#16
On August 25 2011 19:37 A_Bandersnatch wrote:
This is my first blog and such, don't really expect anyone to read it -_- but I just wanted to get some stuff out.
Sometimes when laddering and I am on a winning streak (I am only in bronze so nothing special) I suddenly start to feel guilty about stealing people's ladder points. I feel bad that their loss is my gain, and although I don't like losing I sometimes want to quit a game so other people can collect an undeserved win. I don't know why, and I am probably the only one who feels like this I know its irrational and weird but thats how I feel on those rare winning streaks. More often than not though I get a normal win/loss ratio though.

Feel free to post your own guilty moments here, starcraft related or not, even if its just to share and get some guilt off your chest

It makes sense if you're a cheeser. If you play standard every game it doesn't. Think of it like this. If you lose on purpose, the opponent will think that he's better than he actually is, which will make him feel even worse when he is losing against players that are worse than you.

The issue here is probably that you think that you haven't put up enough effort to earn beating those players. Because I play BW, where you need a lot of effort just to win your first game, I can't relate.

Start looking at the game more scientifically and fine-tune your play. This will both improve your game and make you feel like you've put some actual effort into the game. If this doesn't remove the guilt, you are just not competitive and should quit.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
August 25 2011 13:12 GMT
#17
Why do you consider it stealing? Its not like your opponent owns the ladder points. If you win a game it is almsot entirely due to your own skills and/or strategy.

I think you need a diffrent mind set. During the game the other guy is the enemy and you must do everything in your power to defeat the enemy. After the game is the time to be the good guy and to be respectful. But during the game, go for the throat my man.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
impression
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
413 Posts
August 25 2011 13:17 GMT
#18
On August 25 2011 21:55 ninini wrote:
It makes sense if you're a cheeser. If you play standard every game it doesn't. Think of it like this. If you lose on purpose, the opponent will think that he's better than he actually is, which will make him feel even worse when he is losing against players that are worse than you.

The issue here is probably that you think that you haven't put up enough effort to earn beating those players. Because I play BW, where you need a lot of effort just to win your first game, I can't relate.

Start looking at the game more scientifically and fine-tune your play. This will both improve your game and make you feel like you've put some actual effort into the game. If this doesn't remove the guilt, you are just not competitive and should quit.


You know, this makes sense. I'm not particularly competitive so I don't feel like losing affects me as much as it might do other people (especially after seeing all the rage and reading about it), and so I feel like i should save that person a little rage. I also feel like I should encourage standard play so if i lose a macro game I 'gg wp' and leave, but if i am cheesed and lose I don't feel they deserve a 'gg' as they have no desire to improve. Or that is how i see it. But I have been watching a lot of pros and analyzing my play and where i can improve, i try focus on a certain aspect each time i play - eg concentrate on not missing injects etc
And don't get me wrong, I enjoy winning and moving up the ranks and practicing and trying to improve, but yeah. Thanks though
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impression
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
413 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 11:04:50
August 25 2011 13:19 GMT
#19
nvm
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Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
August 25 2011 13:36 GMT
#20
I only felt guilty when i 7pooled a protoss on shakuras. I never cheesed but i tried to do it more to switch it up and learn more about cheeses, but i'm just not made for that. I was close to just giving him the win, eventhough he said himself that it's a valid opening.
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