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On August 21 2011 00:02 Pwnographics wrote:
I'm pretty keen to get this as well, what did the surgeons tell you about any long term side effects (if any)?
Nobody knows yet, since the procedure is still relatively new. They make you sign papers before surgery making sure that you are aware that there is no information on long term side effects yet. Theoretically though, it is a sound procedure. All they do really is create a flap (or dissolve the epithelial surface to allow it to regrow), laser the cornea, then allow the flap to heal. The only logical long term side effect that seems obvious is that your eyes are never as strong as they were prior to surgery. In other words, you are more vulnerable to damage to the eyes. The whole thing is FDA approved though, so it should probably have no huge detrimental effects.
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I'm so glad your procedure went well . It must feel incredible to wake up and just see everything clearly with no fuss.
I've been curious about eye surgery for a long time but I tend to get hit in and around the eye quite often so I've been rather afraid of damaging my eye after the fact.
I break glasses fairly regularly ( about 2 pairs a year) at concerts and I just dislike the way contacts make my eyes feel dirty after extended wear. So maybe surgery is the way to go. I don't know but your story has me considering it.
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hmm man i'm kind of fond of my glasses though, I can remember there are occasions where they blocked small debris...
although I do admit I would love to see myself without glasses in the mirror. It's a strange concept, but when you wear glasses you cannot see what you look like w/o glasses clearly!
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I have pretty bad eyes, -9 each, so I'm planning on waiting out the early years of my 20s, then seeing whether it's worth the surgery.
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On August 21 2011 04:19 TOloseGT wrote:
I have pretty bad eyes, -9 each, so I'm planning on waiting out the early years of my 20s, then seeing whether it's worth the surgery.
Well you would have to wait anyway. Most men's eyes don't fully develop until 25. The best way to make sure is to get yearly eye exams and seeing when there is a stop in prescription change. You really don't want to go into a surgery knowing that your eyes could still get worse. The surgery will probably be improved in the future anyway (and cheaper).
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Hey again.
novabossa is kind of right, but only concerning LASIK. This is the state of the art procedure and it normally heals off within 1 or 2 weeks opposed to 3-6 month PRK. Still, PRK is practiced for like 25 years. So there is enough data already to rule out unexpected longtime sideeffects. I'll be fine 
also your argument is right. the key is the removal of cornea. Assuming that the LASIK lid (or flap) gets perfectly attached again, the difference will only be the cornea removed at the actual laser treatment. PRK removes about 10% of the cornea, LASIK like 20%. But the doctors will check how strong your cornea is beforehand. e.g. my cornea was 540 my right eye which is fine. Lasik will remove about 100-120 my at my eyesight. the left eye had like 430. So they were like, naaah we can't do it. But we can do the outdated PRK which only removes 50-60 my. Considering that my left eye already has the difference to the right eye of 110 my u have to ask yourself if it really matters. Also, the protecting cover, the epithel will grow back (PRK) or even stay as it is (LASIK). I am not really afraid that my eye is considerable weaker after removing 50 or so my. My Eye will handle stuff as it always as.
This numbers change with increasing dpt values tho. so the poster with -9 will have a lot more removed. Same applies to farsight. I would never, never do a LASIK or PRK at that value. Never. It's to risky. But everything to -4 or -5 dpt is absolutely ok.
edit: I don't know how to do a real my. A my is 0.001 mm. I hope u get the idea
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On August 21 2011 05:53 Jayjay54 wrote:Hey again. novabossa is kind of right, but only concerning LASIK. This is the state of the art procedure and it normally heals off within 1 or 2 weeks opposed to 3-6 month PRK. Still, PRK is practiced for like 25 years. So there is enough data already to rule out unexpected longtime sideeffects. I'll be fine also your argument is right. the key is the removal of cornea. Assuming that the LASIK lid (or flap) gets perfectly attached again, the difference will only be the cornea removed at the actual laser treatment. PRK removes about 10% of the cornea, LASIK like 20%. But the doctors will check how strong your cornea is beforehand. e.g. my cornea was 540 my right eye which is fine. Lasik will remove about 100-120 my at my eyesight. the left eye had like 430. So they were like, naaah we can't do it. But we can do the outdated PRK which only removes 50-60 my. Considering that my left eye already has the difference to the right eye of 110 my u have to ask yourself if it really matters. Also, the protecting cover, the epithel will grow back (PRK) or even stay as it is (LASIK). I am not really afraid that my eye is considerable weaker after removing 50 or so my. My Eye will handle stuff as it always as. This numbers change with increasing dpt values tho. so the poster with -9 will have a lot more removed. Same applies to farsight. I would never, never do a LASIK or PRK at that value. Never. It's to risky. But everything to -4 or -5 dpt is absolutely ok. edit: I don't know how to do a real my. A my is 0.001 mm. I hope u get the idea
Absolutely agree. Glad everything went so well
Also, a note on cheap procedures: the thing about these procedures is that they don't tell you everything. I used to work as an intern at a laser eye clinic (also had LASIK myself), and what is usually the case for $350 per eye surgeries is 1) there are hidden costs, 2) it only applies to a small percentage of people, and/or 3) the surgeon is not experienced. So I'd be wary of any surgery that costs less than $1500 per eye.
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On August 21 2011 18:06 novabossa wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 05:53 Jayjay54 wrote:Hey again. novabossa is kind of right, but only concerning LASIK. This is the state of the art procedure and it normally heals off within 1 or 2 weeks opposed to 3-6 month PRK. Still, PRK is practiced for like 25 years. So there is enough data already to rule out unexpected longtime sideeffects. I'll be fine also your argument is right. the key is the removal of cornea. Assuming that the LASIK lid (or flap) gets perfectly attached again, the difference will only be the cornea removed at the actual laser treatment. PRK removes about 10% of the cornea, LASIK like 20%. But the doctors will check how strong your cornea is beforehand. e.g. my cornea was 540 my right eye which is fine. Lasik will remove about 100-120 my at my eyesight. the left eye had like 430. So they were like, naaah we can't do it. But we can do the outdated PRK which only removes 50-60 my. Considering that my left eye already has the difference to the right eye of 110 my u have to ask yourself if it really matters. Also, the protecting cover, the epithel will grow back (PRK) or even stay as it is (LASIK). I am not really afraid that my eye is considerable weaker after removing 50 or so my. My Eye will handle stuff as it always as. This numbers change with increasing dpt values tho. so the poster with -9 will have a lot more removed. Same applies to farsight. I would never, never do a LASIK or PRK at that value. Never. It's to risky. But everything to -4 or -5 dpt is absolutely ok. edit: I don't know how to do a real my. A my is 0.001 mm. I hope u get the idea Absolutely agree. Glad everything went so well Also, a note on cheap procedures: the thing about these procedures is that they don't tell you everything. I used to work as an intern at a laser eye clinic (also had LASIK myself), and what is usually the case for $350 per eye surgeries is 1) there are hidden costs, 2) it only applies to a small percentage of people, and/or 3) the surgeon is not experienced. So I'd be wary of any surgery that costs less than $1500 per eye.
also, the quality of the laser will obviously be inferior. like I already described, my eye was scanned and the treatment was taylor-made after that scan. Def a huge advantage!
I'm really glad that some people here are reconsidering laser surgery after my post maybe I have improved a life...
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