A lot of people saw it happen. I don't want this thread turn into a bash Xeris thread either, but we really need to hear his side of the story, before I start grabbing my pitchfork.
Some back story: apparently there is a section of seating in the crowd reserved for players, media, team reps, etc. A redditor's cousin won access to this area through some contest. Upon returning from a bathroom break/whatever they noticed a bald guy sitting in their seats. This bald guy was Sundance. Without knowing, they had asked Sundance to move and he happily obliged, without making it known who he was.
The next time that they get up they decide to leave some personal effects on their seat as a way of indicating that the seat was occupied. I'm told by people that attended MLG that this was fairly common practice. Xeris, when noticing two unoccupied seats, takes it upon himself to displace the items on the seat. When told the purpose of the items he was throwing onto the floor and that those seats were being held for winners of a contest Xeris had this to say, "I won these too ... through hard work."
Really Xeris?
MLG management: respectful members of the community, awesome event all around. NASL management: will throw your shit on the ground.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha please god tell me this is not true
Oh snap, I sense a battle here. Xeris will come into this thread/write some excuse about it and Rekrul will just tear him a new one.
I´m on Rekruls side! (I always am. Just to be safe)
Xeris is one of the people in this community that makes me sick. He is such a disrespectful person and it doesn't surprise me that he would do something so immature.
On August 02 2011 08:02 vindKtiv wrote: There was literally only two guys in the Reddit thread who can back up the story of Xeris kicking him out. Only one guy heard "Yeah, we won these seats too... through hard work." The other guy said nothing other than Xeris kicked them out. For some reason, I think there is another side to the story.
Seriously, Xeris has been a community contributor since the days of BW. You can bash NASL all you want (because it definitely did have its problem), but you cannot say that NASL did not do a good thing for e-sports (though I've actually seen some people with bigger self-entitlement issues actually say so) and you cannot say the Xeris did a big part in advancing that. Xeris has brought us Fnatic.MSI with his hard work as well. It is two random reddit posters vs Xeris. I think I'm going to give Xeris the benefit of the doubt.
That is some flawed ass logic youve got there Same reasoning leads to the flagrant abuse seen in many communities by the police, its just "random people" vs "upholders of justice."
I've heard xeris has had his head up his ass a few times before this, no surprise here
Flawed logic? Seriously, he is not saying that people should not give Xeris crap IF he did that, he wants to give him the benefit of the doubt. Nobody mentioned that Xeris should get a special treatment, but its ridiculous how many people are bashing Xeris based on a reddit thread where only 2 people seem to be the only ones saying it. No evidence or anything.
From what I see, Xeris has a lot more to lose from this than the other people claiming that they totally saw Xeris doing that.
This is borderline Highschool drama. Of course if proof emerges that it was actually Xeris, then yeah people have all the right to dislike him but so far I think its fair to at least give Xeris the benefit of the doubt
On August 02 2011 08:02 vindKtiv wrote: There was literally only two guys in the Reddit thread who can back up the story of Xeris kicking him out. Only one guy heard "Yeah, we won these seats too... through hard work." The other guy said nothing other than Xeris kicked them out. For some reason, I think there is another side to the story.
Seriously, Xeris has been a community contributor since the days of BW. You can bash NASL all you want (because it definitely did have its problem), but you cannot say that NASL did not do a good thing for e-sports (though I've actually seen some people with bigger self-entitlement issues actually say so) and you cannot say the Xeris did a big part in advancing that. Xeris has brought us Fnatic.MSI with his hard work as well. It is two random reddit posters vs Xeris. I think I'm going to give Xeris the benefit of the doubt.
That is some flawed ass logic youve got there Same reasoning leads to the flagrant abuse seen in many communities by the police, its just "random people" vs "upholders of justice."
I've heard xeris has had his head up his ass a few times before this, no surprise here
Flawed logic? Seriously, he is not saying that people should not give Xeris crap IF he did that, he wants to give him the benefit of the doubt. Nobody mentioned that Xeris should get a special treatment, but its ridiculous how many people are bashing Xeris based on a reddit thread where only 2 people seem to be the only ones saying it. No evidence or anything.
From what I see, Xeris has a lot more to lose from this than the other people claiming that they totally saw Xeris doing that.
This is borderline Highschool drama. Of course if proof emerges that it was actually Xeris, then yeah people have all the right to dislike him but so far I think its fair to at least give Xeris the benefit of the doubt
Rofl what do you think this is like Guess the Pokemon? It was Xeris, people know what he looks like
And no, i don't really see why we should have to hear his side. No one has anything to gain by saying "some guy stole my seat for no particular reason" before even knowing who it was whereas Xeris has much to gain from justifying his actions.
The crowd was amazingly loud, audible from OUTSIDE the venue when boxer was winning or making key plays (people I was with were taking smoke breaks).
I dunno what the stream did to dull it out, but I do know that if the stream noise comes specifically from only the MICS of the casters, than there's a reason it was so quiet, as day9 and wheat were in a completely separate area from the stage floor (as evident by day9 coming out of a side entrance when he said he'd come out for autographs)
Sounds like the streams used a mic that blocked out a lot of ambient noise. That was a big mistake and I hope they fix that for next MLG. We stream viewers want to hear the crowd!
Also it would be nice if you have crowd interviews during breaks like the ones that Lindsey Sporrer was doing for NASL.
yeah the cheering we heard on the stream just appears muffled and unimpressive. NASL actually did a better job with the crowd mics.
Can somebody talk about the ball that was being tossed around the audience during the last day? Was it something planned or just somebody threw a ball and people started flipping it being bored?
On August 02 2011 08:27 freddievercetti wrote: Can somebody talk about the ball that was being tossed around the audience during the last day? Was it something planned or just somebody threw a ball and people started flipping it being bored?
On August 02 2011 08:02 vindKtiv wrote: There was literally only two guys in the Reddit thread who can back up the story of Xeris kicking him out. Only one guy heard "Yeah, we won these seats too... through hard work." The other guy said nothing other than Xeris kicked them out. For some reason, I think there is another side to the story.
Seriously, Xeris has been a community contributor since the days of BW. You can bash NASL all you want (because it definitely did have its problem), but you cannot say that NASL did not do a good thing for e-sports (though I've actually seen some people with bigger self-entitlement issues actually say so) and you cannot say the Xeris did a big part in advancing that. Xeris has brought us Fnatic.MSI with his hard work as well. It is two random reddit posters vs Xeris. I think I'm going to give Xeris the benefit of the doubt.
That is some flawed ass logic youve got there Same reasoning leads to the flagrant abuse seen in many communities by the police, its just "random people" vs "upholders of justice."
I've heard xeris has had his head up his ass a few times before this, no surprise here
Flawed logic? Seriously, he is not saying that people should not give Xeris crap IF he did that, he wants to give him the benefit of the doubt. Nobody mentioned that Xeris should get a special treatment, but its ridiculous how many people are bashing Xeris based on a reddit thread where only 2 people seem to be the only ones saying it. No evidence or anything.
From what I see, Xeris has a lot more to lose from this than the other people claiming that they totally saw Xeris doing that.
This is borderline Highschool drama. Of course if proof emerges that it was actually Xeris, then yeah people have all the right to dislike him but so far I think its fair to at least give Xeris the benefit of the doubt
Rofl what do you think this is like Guess the Pokemon? It was Xeris, people know what he looks like
And no, i don't really see why we should have to hear his side. No one has anything to gain by saying "some guy stole my seat for no particular reason" before even knowing who it was whereas Xeris has much to gain from justifying his actions.
Well, some people do have something to gain though. Lulz. And it's not unheard of people lying to aquire some.
Still, I believe the story, it sounds genuine and there's at least 5 people confirming it, might be more by now.
And regarding the action itself: disrespectful, distasteful and frankly - fucking stupid. I mean, I'm pretty sure that Fnatic doesn't really like having people on their payroll with this kind of behavior. It gives off a bad image. People have lost jobs for way less.
I hate the wristband so much. Just a stupid idea to take it off. And what are they gonna do if I just cut a orange paper and wrap it around my wrist? Who know?
On August 02 2011 08:02 vindKtiv wrote: There was literally only two guys in the Reddit thread who can back up the story of Xeris kicking him out. Only one guy heard "Yeah, we won these seats too... through hard work." The other guy said nothing other than Xeris kicked them out. For some reason, I think there is another side to the story.
Seriously, Xeris has been a community contributor since the days of BW. You can bash NASL all you want (because it definitely did have its problem), but you cannot say that NASL did not do a good thing for e-sports (though I've actually seen some people with bigger self-entitlement issues actually say so) and you cannot say the Xeris did a big part in advancing that. Xeris has brought us Fnatic.MSI with his hard work as well. It is two random reddit posters vs Xeris. I think I'm going to give Xeris the benefit of the doubt.
That is some flawed ass logic youve got there Same reasoning leads to the flagrant abuse seen in many communities by the police, its just "random people" vs "upholders of justice."
I've heard xeris has had his head up his ass a few times before this, no surprise here
Flawed logic? Seriously, he is not saying that people should not give Xeris crap IF he did that, he wants to give him the benefit of the doubt. Nobody mentioned that Xeris should get a special treatment, but its ridiculous how many people are bashing Xeris based on a reddit thread where only 2 people seem to be the only ones saying it. No evidence or anything.
From what I see, Xeris has a lot more to lose from this than the other people claiming that they totally saw Xeris doing that.
This is borderline Highschool drama. Of course if proof emerges that it was actually Xeris, then yeah people have all the right to dislike him but so far I think its fair to at least give Xeris the benefit of the doubt
Rofl what do you think this is like Guess the Pokemon? It was Xeris, people know what he looks like
And no, i don't really see why we should have to hear his side. No one has anything to gain by saying "some guy stole my seat for no particular reason" before even knowing who it was whereas Xeris has much to gain from justifying his actions.
Plenty of people saw Xeris pull this shit, and frankly, its a disgrace that he acts so entitled like that.
On August 02 2011 08:02 vindKtiv wrote: There was literally only two guys in the Reddit thread who can back up the story of Xeris kicking him out. Only one guy heard "Yeah, we won these seats too... through hard work." The other guy said nothing other than Xeris kicked them out. For some reason, I think there is another side to the story.
Seriously, Xeris has been a community contributor since the days of BW. You can bash NASL all you want (because it definitely did have its problem), but you cannot say that NASL did not do a good thing for e-sports (though I've actually seen some people with bigger self-entitlement issues actually say so) and you cannot say the Xeris did a big part in advancing that. Xeris has brought us Fnatic.MSI with his hard work as well. It is two random reddit posters vs Xeris. I think I'm going to give Xeris the benefit of the doubt.
That is some flawed ass logic youve got there Same reasoning leads to the flagrant abuse seen in many communities by the police, its just "random people" vs "upholders of justice."
I've heard xeris has had his head up his ass a few times before this, no surprise here
Flawed logic? Seriously, he is not saying that people should not give Xeris crap IF he did that, he wants to give him the benefit of the doubt. Nobody mentioned that Xeris should get a special treatment, but its ridiculous how many people are bashing Xeris based on a reddit thread where only 2 people seem to be the only ones saying it. No evidence or anything.
From what I see, Xeris has a lot more to lose from this than the other people claiming that they totally saw Xeris doing that.
This is borderline Highschool drama. Of course if proof emerges that it was actually Xeris, then yeah people have all the right to dislike him but so far I think its fair to at least give Xeris the benefit of the doubt
Rofl what do you think this is like Guess the Pokemon? It was Xeris, people know what he looks like
And no, i don't really see why we should have to hear his side. No one has anything to gain by saying "some guy stole my seat for no particular reason" before even knowing who it was whereas Xeris has much to gain from justifying his actions.
Actually 3 groups saw it happen. The people who lost their seat, and two separate parties who were sitting behind them. Of course there isn't going to be much evidence besides the witnesses around the seating area. I'm not saying he's guilty, but you can't expect the people who lost their seat to go "ok i'm going to get my video camera and film this and post it on reddit as evidence"
On August 02 2011 08:25 Swagasaurus wrote: Fnatic, NASL, CSL and Xeris have all lost my respect/support because of this.
What a complete dickhead.
There are plenty of good people who have worked very hard for CSL, don't let Xeris ruin your opinion of them it just because he seems to try and grab power wherever he can find it.
On August 02 2011 08:02 vindKtiv wrote: There was literally only two guys in the Reddit thread who can back up the story of Xeris kicking him out. Only one guy heard "Yeah, we won these seats too... through hard work." The other guy said nothing other than Xeris kicked them out. For some reason, I think there is another side to the story.
Seriously, Xeris has been a community contributor since the days of BW. You can bash NASL all you want (because it definitely did have its problem), but you cannot say that NASL did not do a good thing for e-sports (though I've actually seen some people with bigger self-entitlement issues actually say so) and you cannot say the Xeris did a big part in advancing that. Xeris has brought us Fnatic.MSI with his hard work as well. It is two random reddit posters vs Xeris. I think I'm going to give Xeris the benefit of the doubt.
That is some flawed ass logic youve got there Same reasoning leads to the flagrant abuse seen in many communities by the police, its just "random people" vs "upholders of justice."
I've heard xeris has had his head up his ass a few times before this, no surprise here
Flawed logic? Seriously, he is not saying that people should not give Xeris crap IF he did that, he wants to give him the benefit of the doubt. Nobody mentioned that Xeris should get a special treatment, but its ridiculous how many people are bashing Xeris based on a reddit thread where only 2 people seem to be the only ones saying it. No evidence or anything.
From what I see, Xeris has a lot more to lose from this than the other people claiming that they totally saw Xeris doing that.
This is borderline Highschool drama. Of course if proof emerges that it was actually Xeris, then yeah people have all the right to dislike him but so far I think its fair to at least give Xeris the benefit of the doubt
Rofl what do you think this is like Guess the Pokemon? It was Xeris, people know what he looks like
And no, i don't really see why we should have to hear his side. No one has anything to gain by saying "some guy stole my seat for no particular reason" before even knowing who it was whereas Xeris has much to gain from justifying his actions.
Well, some people do have something to gain though. Lulz. And it's not unheard of people lying to aquire some.
Still, I believe the story, it sounds genuine and there's at least 5 people confirming it, might be more by now.
And regarding the action itself: disrespectful, distasteful and frankly - fucking stupid. I mean, I'm pretty sure that Fnatic doesn't really like having people on their payroll with this kind of behavior. It gives off a bad image. People have lost jobs for way less.
Nah Fnatic's players are all somewhat similar online I don't think any of their players gg or say anything in the beginning of the game even if you say gl hf or something first.
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