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On August 02 2011 12:44 wei2coolman wrote:Get a bigger venue, or get bleachers or something. A more articulated response as to why I think Xeris is not a douche. Imagine if you're in Xeris's position. You've been busy managing your team, and you just want to sit down to watch the SC2 game on, so you walk to the "players/vip/press" sitting area. Now, being Xeris, you probably know everyone in the SC2 industry. So you walk up, see 2 seats, and sit down. There might of been stuff on it, so you kindly just slowly moved it down onto the floor. Then this guy walks up to you, saying that it is his seat, you've never seen this guy before, so you just say this area is for players/vip/press, UNKNOWINGLY that he won the contest for it, and there is no indication of proof, lack of badge/special spectator wristband of sort. Slightly irritated at the fact a guy you've never seen is claiming thats his seat, all while distractng you from an important game, you quickly replied a retort. Now this story gets posted from one side of the story, and on a fucking website in which everyone is a bipolar idiot who's threads are more about stupid drama, than actual strategy. (reddit) XERIS you can steal my seat any time, so long as I get VIP passes to NASL season 2 finals!!!!! ![](/mirror/smilies/puh2.gif)
... You didn't convince me at all that he isn't an entitled douche.
Reddit has it right - It's the responsibility of the SC2 community to show each other that being a prick isn't tolerable unless you're Idra.
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yeah, this is not surprising. Just sad.
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Couldn't find a dedicated MLG Anaheim viewer feedback thread, so picked this one.
Having viewed both EVO 2k11 and MLG this past weekend, I cannot help but think that MLG can learn a thing or two from the fighting game community.
Coverage of the EVO tournament was amazing, because of the upsets, the lively crowd, the excellent casting, the storylines, the underdogs winning, the favorites faltering, the amazing games, etc.
Why doesn't MLG show the players more? ESPECIALLY right after the game. This way, stories can be told, "with the game," about the people. On the MLG stream, there was too much dead air, too few player interviews, and too little behind-the-scenes-action. (A 2-sentence 'interview' on stage with JP doesn't count. The viewer doesn't get the "story" with that. A grainy picture of the player in the SC2 HUD doesn't count either.)
Who's the underdog? What was the most amazing run through the bracket? Which players have a history/rivalry? How do players experience the matches? Where are the fan favorites? I want to see footage/interviews/items addressing these things.
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Wow it sure was nice to have two whole pages of spectator comments of the event and then 9 pages of fucking chair drama.
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On August 02 2011 10:31 jenzebubble wrote: <evoli> During Boxer/Rain there were about twenty or so members of the press and other VIPs standing. <evoli> There were no seats, no seats at all. <evoli> It gets kind of irritating as the front two rows are reserved for press/vip/players, but it's a rule that isn't enforced. <evoli> I get a hold of MLGLish and ask if we can do something. <evoli> She contacts security and they say they'll clear it out after the game. <evoli> They don't. <evoli> Series ends <evoli> and hella people get up and leave <evoli> but everyone is 'saving' seats with bags or having their friends cover for them. <evoli> Gets irritating. <jenzebubble> did xeris say "I won a contest too.. by working hard" <jenzebubble> and did his girlfriend say "They don't know who we are" <evoli> No. <evoli> His girlfriend didn't say that. <evoli> He did remark on his hard work., <evoli> But anyway Xeris moves this bag to floor; the seat has been vacant for five minutes. <evoli> His girlfriend sits down next to him. <evoli> After about three minutes I go and move the bag too -- it's getting outrageous at this point. <evoli> There are twenty or so people waiting for seats and about 700 more fans. <evoli> So after about a minute of my sitting <evoli> someone comes up and asks for his bag and is given it. <evoli> After another minute a second person comes, very upset, and asks why the seats were taken.
Obviously there are a couple sides to every story. That said, Xeris has proven himself to be a douche on numerous occasions so it's hard to know what exactly the truth is.
Issue of seat squatting aside, still a dick move.
On August 03 2011 10:01 dizzy101 wrote: Couldn't find a dedicated MLG Anaheim viewer feedback thread, so picked this one.
Having viewed both EVO 2k11 and MLG this past weekend, I cannot help but think that MLG can learn a thing or two from the fighting game community.
Coverage of the EVO tournament was amazing, because of the upsets, the lively crowd, the excellent casting, the storylines, the underdogs winning, the favorites faltering, the amazing games, etc.
Why doesn't MLG show the players more? ESPECIALLY right after the game. This way, stories can be told, "with the game," about the people. On the MLG stream, there was too much dead air, too few player interviews, and too little behind-the-scenes-action. (A 2-sentence 'interview' on stage with JP doesn't count. The viewer doesn't get the "story" with that. A grainy picture of the player in the SC2 HUD doesn't count either.)
Who's the underdog? What was the most amazing run through the bracket? Which players have a history/rivalry? How do players experience the matches? Where are the fan favorites? I want to see footage/interviews/items addressing these things.
LOL how'd you do that? Don't they run at the same time?
I think commentators did a good job outlining every player's background and situation. More pre-game and post-game footage that ISN'T the commentators would be nice.
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On August 01 2011 23:50 jenzebubble wrote:http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/j5g8g/mlg_anaheim_after_asking_a_bald_guy_sitting_on/Some back story: apparently there is a section of seating in the crowd reserved for players, media, team reps, etc. A redditor's cousin won access to this area through some contest. Upon returning from a bathroom break/whatever they noticed a bald guy sitting in their seats. This bald guy was Sundance. Without knowing, they had asked Sundance to move and he happily obliged, without making it known who he was. The next time that they get up they decide to leave some personal effects on their seat as a way of indicating that the seat was occupied. I'm told by people that attended MLG that this was fairly common practice. Xeris, when noticing two unoccupied seats, takes it upon himself to displace the items on the seat. When told the purpose of the items he was throwing onto the floor and that those seats were being held for winners of a contest Xeris had this to say, "I won these too ... through hard work." Really Xeris? MLG management: respectful members of the community, awesome event all around. NASL management: will throw your shit on the ground. Hey everyone, I'm the guy who won the Dr. Pepper Contest and lost seats to Xeris and I'd like to explain everything really quick.
Basically I won the Dr. Pepper Grand Prize and got a cool Astro gaming bag with a bunch of stuff in it (gift card, Gunnar glasses, etc.). One of the prizes was 2 VIP passes and seats in the front row, however, the Dr. Pepper Spokesman (a very kind fellow named Jay) unfortunately didn't have the passes on his person at the time and my friend and I were very eager to get our seats since SlayerSBoxer was about to play and we're huge fans. He went up and spoke to security and asked them to let us in while he got the badges. My friend and I sit in 2 seats for 3 matches without getting up once until after one match where I decided to go talk to the Jay about the passes while my friend used the restroom. Unfortunately Jay didn't have our passes yet so I went to talk to my little brother and another friend who had to stand since we only got 2 seats. I come back to the front row to find that some dude in a Fnatic jersey and some other fellow are sitting in the seats that my friend and I had left our stuff in with our stuff on the floor. I ask them nicely to move and unfortunately had to talk to security after these guys refused to give our seats back.
Whatever Xeris and his friend said is between myself and them, and does not need to be posted here.Xeris has apologized publicly on reddit and offered my friend and I his VIP tickets to either the next NASL or MLG in response to a post by some other fellow who witnessed the whole scene and I have accepted this apology. Hopefully he follows through with the VIP pass but for now I'm just glad that the team of one of my favorite players (Sen) is not being managed by a tool.
![[image loading]](http://i55.tinypic.com/2i1kt41.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://i55.tinypic.com/vem3a9.jpg) Sry about the bad pictures >.< again thank you for the apology Xeris
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I can't believe you took that corporate blunder apology seriously. I never seen such a poorly executed apology like that, ever. Oh well he gets to try to save some face and you get some tickets for another mlg. And the world still spins.
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On August 03 2011 16:14 pcL.Nomad wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2011 23:50 jenzebubble wrote:http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/j5g8g/mlg_anaheim_after_asking_a_bald_guy_sitting_on/Some back story: apparently there is a section of seating in the crowd reserved for players, media, team reps, etc. A redditor's cousin won access to this area through some contest. Upon returning from a bathroom break/whatever they noticed a bald guy sitting in their seats. This bald guy was Sundance. Without knowing, they had asked Sundance to move and he happily obliged, without making it known who he was. The next time that they get up they decide to leave some personal effects on their seat as a way of indicating that the seat was occupied. I'm told by people that attended MLG that this was fairly common practice. Xeris, when noticing two unoccupied seats, takes it upon himself to displace the items on the seat. When told the purpose of the items he was throwing onto the floor and that those seats were being held for winners of a contest Xeris had this to say, "I won these too ... through hard work." Really Xeris? MLG management: respectful members of the community, awesome event all around. NASL management: will throw your shit on the ground. Hey everyone, I'm the guy who won the Dr. Pepper Contest and lost seats to Xeris and I'd like to explain everything really quick. Basically I won the Dr. Pepper Grand Prize and got a cool Astro gaming bag with a bunch of stuff in it (gift card, Gunnar glasses, etc.). One of the prizes was 2 VIP passes and seats in the front row, however, the Dr. Pepper Spokesman (a very kind fellow named Jay) unfortunately didn't have the passes on his person at the time and my friend and I were very eager to get our seats since SlayerSBoxer was about to play and we're huge fans. He went up and spoke to security and asked them to let us in while he got the badges. My friend and I sit in 2 seats for 3 matches without getting up once until after one match where I decided to go talk to the Jay about the passes while my friend used the restroom. Unfortunately Jay didn't have our passes yet so I went to talk to my little brother and another friend who had to stand since we only got 2 seats. I come back to the front row to find that some dude in a Fnatic jersey and some other fellow are sitting in the seats that my friend and I had left our stuff in with our stuff on the floor. I ask them nicely to move and unfortunately had to talk to security after these guys refused to give our seats back. Whatever Xeris and his friend said is between myself and them, and does not need to be posted here.Xeris has apologized publicly on reddit and offered my friend and I his VIP tickets to either the next NASL or MLG in response to a post by some other fellow who witnessed the whole scene and I have accepted this apology. Hopefully he follows through with the VIP pass but for now I'm just glad that the team of one of my favorite players (Sen) is not being managed by a tool. ![[image loading]](http://i55.tinypic.com/2i1kt41.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i55.tinypic.com/vem3a9.jpg) Sry about the bad pictures >.< again thank you for the apology Xeris
Did you end up getting ur passes and ur seats, or were you shit out of luck? If it's the latter then he still kind of fucked you over, tbh.
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Years of hard work? LOL, what a self righteous dick
Those who want respect, give respect
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