EPTFantasy GSTL Draft Guide: Season One - Page 3
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andrewnguyener
United States548 Posts
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Warpath
Canada1242 Posts
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MangoTango
United States3670 Posts
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Vaelone
Finland4400 Posts
Only complaint I have is that my eyes can't actually spot the snipers. (No pun intended) | ||
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On June 23 2011 18:25 Primadog wrote: TL;DR is designed for those who are for those whom are not interested in putting thoughts into their fantasy picks, therefore it should be the most reliable choices. I hold no reservation regarding my tl;dr suggestions and am not interested in being politically correct. A draft premier's purpose is to give informed advice on how to improve one's draft stock. This cannot be done without some subjective elements. I firmly believe that my guide, despite having such subjective elements, has strong objective backing whenever there are data available. If playoffs are scored, the most important attribute to the value of a team is their ability to make the playoffs, because of the points from the extra series played. In that case, team salary cost is a secondary concern to making a conservative bet on teams that will make the playoffs. The only responsible advice is suggesting teams whom have demonstrated success in past GSTLs. The player designations are made under best effort basis:
I will be happy to revise the guide if you can point to any substanstive weakness, but just shitting on it for having an informed opinion is trolling. I'm not shitting on the guide at all; I understand the point of the TL;DR but just saying "pick who you think will win" is no harder to understand or read than "IM", which I don't think is the most helpful advice, even for a part of the guide that broad. To be clear I think it's very well written and extremely helpful, I just think that that aspect of the team picking guide (saying either Slayers or IM without explanations) is perhaps the weakest part. | ||
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Racoonboy
South Africa7 Posts
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Selkie
United States530 Posts
I'm going to see how that works out for me =D (Probably badly, as some of them don't actually play) | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
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Cofo
United States1388 Posts
Well now I know, and there's always next season! | ||
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harhar!
Germany190 Posts
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Subversion
South Africa3627 Posts
they were already in my anti-team b4 they said they were leaving, does this mean i have to change them ? :< | ||
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cascades
Singapore6122 Posts
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blah_blah
346 Posts
On June 23 2011 18:25 Primadog wrote: I will be happy to revise the guide if you can point to any substanstive weakness, but just shitting on it for having an informed opinion is trolling. Your guide is mostly garbage and your logic is specious at best, exemplified by your objectively terrible advice re: anti-team picking and team picking. It reminds me of all of the multi-page articles I read during fantasy football season that are painstakingly crafted but ultimately useless because the author thinks about things the wrong way. Before you accuse me of trolling, I am willing to bet $100+ that my team will beat yours this season, or we can bet fresh starting next season. We need an escrow either way though. PM me to set terms if you really are that confident in your analysis. | ||
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Primadog
United States4411 Posts
On July 02 2011 12:46 blah_blah wrote: Your guide is mostly garbage and your logic is specious at best, exemplified by your objectively terrible advice re: anti-team picking and team picking. It reminds me of all of the multi-page articles I read during fantasy football season that are painstakingly crafted but ultimately useless because the author thinks about things the wrong way. Before you accuse me of trolling, I am willing to bet $100+ that my team will beat yours this season, or we can bet fresh starting next season. We need an escrow either way though. PM me to set terms if you really are that confident in your analysis. Thanks for your constructive advice. I'll keep your advice in my future revisions. | ||
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
On July 02 2011 12:46 blah_blah wrote: Your guide is mostly garbage and your logic is specious at best, exemplified by your objectively terrible advice re: anti-team picking and team picking. It reminds me of all of the multi-page articles I read during fantasy football season that are painstakingly crafted but ultimately useless because the author thinks about things the wrong way. Before you accuse me of trolling, I am willing to bet $100+ that my team will beat yours this season, or we can bet fresh starting next season. We need an escrow either way though. PM me to set terms if you really are that confident in your analysis. You're still trolling. | ||
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blah_blah
346 Posts
On July 02 2011 17:47 mizU wrote:You're still trolling. You have a strange definition of trolling; I acknowledged that the OP put a lot of effort into it, but asserted that many of the core points of his analysis are fundamentally wrong. I then mentioned that I am so confident that the OPs analysis is flawed that I am willing to bet a decent sum of money on it. Ultimately talk is cheap in fantasy sports; you should ignore most of what people say regardless, but you should basically ignore all of what people say if they are unwilling to back their theories up with money. Just to be helpful, here are things that the OP should have (although I don't want to give away too many ideas) 1) A quantitative analysis of how important it is for low-cost players to be on a good team (it's very important, picking a player like Optikzero, who is mentioned in the OP, is worse than picking an IM player who will never ever play). 2) An analysis of aces on otherwise bad or mediocre teams, particularly accounting for the streak breaking bonus. People like DRG and sC have huge value for this reason. 3) At least some reference to the TLPD ELO rankings and the Korean GM rankings. I mean come on, there's data out there -- use it. | ||
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johngalt90
United States357 Posts
edit: Doesnt BW teams play each week in their proleague (or at the very least play throughout the week?). If so i think cuz of scheduling it makes anti-teams kind of silly. Honestly it seems hard to tell. Also when i first drafted my team i thought it would be a good idea to keep my teams less diverse since it seems that having a player pool with lots of different teams seemed counterintuitive (if ST beats fou and i have equal amounts of both i dont net much except for any point bonuses from players (but the one point accrued to all my ST players is negated by the reduction of FOU players). This led me to draft most of my players from Slayer's and Startale since i feel in each of their team pools they are the best and i only acquired one ace in the form of ST opting for bomber as my only megapoint player (man i wish i listened to all the DRG hype). OP what do you think of when selecting players that keeping the team diversity to a minimum since hedging bets isnt very rewarding in this system | ||
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Primadog
United States4411 Posts
There are substantial structural changes necessary for this guide with all the new data I been collecting. Honest opinion: this was my least favorite of all of PrimeCoverage and has incurred the most subjective/incorrect elements, which displeases me significantly. But I am a bit booked at the moment, so here's some damage control: TradeValue = ( GamesLeft * Salary / 5 + 5/9 * Score ) * GamesLeft It's week 4. I followed your advice and built the ultimate anti-team, now get me out of this mess! Current TradeValues Currently available Anti-trades for the above four players
Anti-team players by team (bracketed are only tradable for Naniwa or Thorzain): ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/5/52/SlayerSlogo_std.png) SlayerS - MMA (Alicia)![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/8/83/IMlogo_std.png) Incredible Miracle - (LosirA) (Yoda)![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/8/8e/Startalelogo_std.png) StarTale - Squirtle Bomber (Trickster)![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/e/ee/TSLlogo_std.png) Team SCV Life - (PuMa) (Killer )![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/4/41/OGslogo_std.png) Old Generations - (NaDa )![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/8/87/FOulogo_std.png) For Our Utopia - ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/0/05/ZeNEXlogo_std.png) ZeNEX - ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/e/ec/MVPlogo_std.png) ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/8/84/Primelogo_std.png) ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/9/90/HoSeologo_std.png) New Star HoSeo - (Sage) (Jjakji)![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/a/a2/FXOlogo_std.png) FXOpen - ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/a/a2/FUnitedlogo_std.png) F.United - Based on the above information. My trade for week 4 is  NaNiwa for YoDa, by reasoning YoDa is overvalued in points and he is on a team with only 3 games left. However, there's an substantial risk in that IM plays FXO this week and all-kill is a real possibility.Other possibly good players are  Polt and MarineKing, whom seems stuck in a team with very poor team-metagaming (but individually strong). Opposite of the Primes are HoSeo's Sage and Jjakji whom seems to be indivdually weak but has significantly overperformed as a team. They're also reasonable targets, since their remaining schedule seems to be one of the toughest in the league. Finally, the best trade may well be be TesteR, who is on a stacked (new) team. The danger of Tester is that the recent team switch may result in ST interested in testing out their newest weapons against ZeNEX this week.Week 4-6 will be rough for those that followed my advice, and I apologize for the stress it will cause you. With a little effort and lots of luck, maybe we can all survive this with our fantasy scores in tack. | ||
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Primadog
United States4411 Posts
There are substantial structural changes necessary for this guide with all the new data I been collecting. Honest opinion: this was my least favorite of all of PrimeCoverage and has incurred the most subjective/incorrect elements, which displeases me significantly. But I am a bit booked at the moment, so here's some damage control: TradeValue = ( GamesLeft * Salary / 5 + 5/9 * Score ) * GamesLeft It's week 5. I followed your advice and built the ultimate anti-team, now get me out of this mess! Current TradeValues Currently available Anti-trades for the above four players
Anti-team players by team (bracketed are only tradable for Naniwa or Thorzain): SlayerS - Incredible Miracle - (LosirA) (Yoda) StarTale - Bomber Team SCV Life - Killer Old Generations - MC (NaDa) For Our Utopia - ZeNEX - New Star HoSeo - (Sage) (Jjakji) FXOpen - F.United - Based on the above information. My antiteam trade for week 5 is Lyn for MarineKing, on the ground that by next week, there will be no good alternatives for Lyn and Polt has a better record against MC than MarineKing. A strong alternative is Jjakji/Yoda for ThorZaIN/NaNiwa.Week 4-6 are rough for those that followed my advice, and I apologize for the stress it will cause you. With a little effort and lots of luck, maybe we can all survive this with our fantasy scores in tack. | ||
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