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inV
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States10 Posts
June 16 2011 20:37 GMT
#1
Hello fellow TL member,
Recently I made a post about my past life and my pursuits into this game. Explaining that I pour countless hours with some of the most amazing people ever like MGBattlekila and sLeEpy on SC2. Learning has been a dauntless task for me. Just mass laddering and playing about 30+ games a night and winning maybe 50% can be a bit discouraging. But I look back at that saying to myself "Even if I lose the game or several games I know Im learning". Watching my replays over and over trying to find the deciding factor can be hard because I have a hard time editing or judging my own work.

However I take breaks trying not to get angry, but recently I just got fed up with the game losing 6 straight games and just getting discouraged. I look at it like this, I lose by a huge margin then I don't learn. If I lose to a small margin then some small thing I did caused me to lose. Learning is a daunting task.

I will continue to mass ladder and learn from my mistakes. I will continue to achieve and eventually make into higher leagues even though I sit at 1st in the Gold Division. Ugh. Im stressed out from this game. Basically it's from just losing to stupid games. Maybe after taking a break for a bit I might resi,e with winning.

Take care,
inV

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Treemonkeys
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2082 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 20:53:29
June 16 2011 20:49 GMT
#2
Get practice partners, it is much faster, much less frustrating. I was stuck in plat for awhile, had someone in diamond nice enough to kick my ass over, and over, and over. Like we would play and I would win maybe one out of 20 games that day. For some reason losing that many games just didn't bother me at all while losing only 4-5 in a row on ladder was extremely frustrating - the most I was worried about was actually that he would get bored playing with me. Eventually though I was able to beat him more and more consistently, and once I got to that point that matchup was basically a free win for me at the platinum level ladder, and the mechanics that I improved helped all matchups overall.

It also helped that while losing all those custom games, I was also watching incontrol's coaching, so I was going into those custom games with a solid gameplan as far as what I wanted to do and what to improve on.

Then getting to diamond was basically a formality and very easy for me, because I did all the work and learning in custom games.
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Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
June 16 2011 20:56 GMT
#3
The great thing about Starcraft II is that when you lose you have something to look at. You have a glimpse into what you did wrong. Did you overdrone and get run over? Did you miss injects and all of your queens have 50+ energy? Did you not scout enough/have enough map presence with overlords. Are you spending all your larva as soon as they pop out?

I'm in diamond and I can still admit that I suck at this game. My macro is trash, I get too scared when small pushes come and I overmake units to try and hold it off. If I'm being harassed by hellions or banshees or void rays, my mind goes totally blank and I stop producing units to try and hold it off. My plan going into each game is sometimes non existent, and too many times I catch myself asking if I should build unit Y or unit X. The first step to improving is realizing you suck at the game and that to get better you have to tighten up your build, hit your injects, always produce and never get supply blocked. After you get that, choose a decent strategy per matchup and then practice that build til you are sick of it and then practice it some more. Starcraft II isn't an easy game, and you have to work for your promotion.

Losing half your games is normal until you are at the very top of the ladder. The matchmaking system is suppose to keep you losing half your games. I can't tell you how many times I tell myself that and still get upset at losing half of my games. It is just how the ladder works, the more over 50% you go the sooner you will be promoted so you can be 50% in a higher league. Don't get discouraged and keep playing.
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K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
June 16 2011 21:09 GMT
#4
The posters above me are definitely right.

If you're frustrated when you lose on ladder, get practice partners to train with you. Also, don't just mass ladder in an attempt to get better. You have to learn from your mistakes. If you don't watch your replays, you'll end up making the same mistake 100 times and not correct it. Watch pro players' replays, see what they do and try to mimic it.

And in my opinion, the worst thing you can do is keep laddering after you're frustrated. You'll go on long lose streaks because you're angry and tired. I made up a rule saying, after 2 losses, I have to stop playing for 1 hour and do something else. It clears my head and l feel motivated to win my next game when I come back. Not sure it'll work for you but it's definitely working for me.
inV
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States10 Posts
June 17 2011 02:16 GMT
#5
Yea I just got back from a joyride with my mother talking about things in life. Talked to a old friend of mine and now I'm happy and ready to ladder some more. Thank you guys
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