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RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
June 04 2011 21:30 GMT
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kibeth
Profile Joined August 2010
United States116 Posts
June 04 2011 21:34 GMT
#2
I hate suggesting it because most people yell about it or get upset, but you can easily torrent collections of sometimes hundreds of 3.5 books. In reality you only need like 3-5 books to run an efficient game, but if you wanna get fancy there are hundreds of prestige class books and specialization blahblahblah to find.
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
June 04 2011 21:41 GMT
#3
Honestly, I spend 400 dollars buying 4edition products, as we were huge 3.5 fans before and "serious" gamers.

When we discovered 4e was the watered down shallow crap it is, being more mature, we decided to give GURPS a try, and NEVER looked back

In gurps you dont have classes or levels, only character points, atributes, skils, cost character points to purchase.

You have Advantages to represent all sorts of natural aptitutes like combat reflexes and high pain treshhold (must have to warriors) and so many others.

Social advantages are also avaible, and you can buy your wealth or status (or both) prior to character creation, make characters who arent focused on blowing stuff up.

You also have disadvantages, that incentive players to roleplay in exchange of extra character points, things like code of honors, vows, obessions, addictions, curses, cripplings it all has a value, and the customization is endless.

Combat is way better, theres good rules for hitting specific body parts, you have active defenses like parry dodge and block (and theres advantages and skills that can make them better).

Crafting is way better.

GURPS standard magic system is awesome, a mage will have to learn a ton of fire spells before he can cast a powerfull fireball, and etc...

My personal advice, GO GURPS
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Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
June 04 2011 22:13 GMT
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4e is basically world of warcraft in pen and paper format
RandomAccount#49059
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United States2140 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 22:23:33
June 04 2011 22:23 GMT
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maahes`ra
Profile Joined January 2011
United States255 Posts
June 04 2011 23:13 GMT
#6
If you're looking for the best time possible with the 3.5 system, don't get the WotC stuff - look up the Pathfinder variant. It's essentially '3.75', with the base classes and melee classes heavily buffed to compete with the ridiculousness of casters in 3.5. Much of 3.5's content is compatible, but compared to to WotC's books I found Pathfinder to be a lot more fun with my friends.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pathfinder_Roleplaying_Game
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kNightLite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States408 Posts
June 05 2011 02:59 GMT
#7
Honestly I felt the same way about 4E at first, but after awhile it really grew on me. I think at low levels 3.5E is superior to 4E, but at mid and high levels 4E is *vastly* superior due to the streamlined ruleset. 3.5E gets worse the higher level you go because the rule complexity increases exponentially. Pathfinder attempted to fix many of these problems, but its still a very clunky ruleset.

Also as a DM its much easier to prep 4E. It used to take me 4 hours to prep a session with 3.5E Pathfinder, now it only takes 1.5 hours with 4E.

As far as cheap resources go, check out enworld. Its the TL of all editions of D&D. Also checkout drivethrurpg, you can get a TON of good cheap content there. Many pdfs are priced at around 2 or 3 bucks because theres no material cost. I've found pdfs to be superior to hardcopy books just for the search feature.
RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
June 05 2011 03:11 GMT
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arcanejazz
Profile Joined November 2007
United States14 Posts
June 05 2011 19:58 GMT
#9
If you dont mind playing D&D online, I am a member of a really great community:

http://www.dndonlinegames.com/index.php

They play all editions and styles of games. It's slow getting started if you're new but if you have friends there you can start a game right away.
"...[My favorite winter hobby] is running around outside, screaming at atheists who're making snow angels. That's for believers only; you gotta pay to play, motherfucker!" ~Stephen Colbert
SilentCrono
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1420 Posts
June 05 2011 20:53 GMT
#10
yeah you only need like 4 of the 3.5 books to play 3.5 edition and its definitely better than 4th version IMO. theyre like $20 usually
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