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Oreo7
United States1647 Posts
Recently I really like Robert Frost's "Stopping by the Woods on a Snowy Evening" Wordsworth's "Daffodils" and Shelleys "Ozymandias". I really like Romanticism, although I don't necessarily agree with the philosophy, I feel it does provide a generally happy world view which is hard to find in literature. Got any recommendations? Major turn offs for me are heavy god themes (I have trouble reading most Milton because of this), and bad love poetry.  | ||
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Glaven
Canada554 Posts
"The Flea" is a "romantic" poem but is playful and extremely clever: http://www.luminarium.org/sevenlit/donne/flea.php "A Valediction Forbidding Mourning" is another one of my favorites: http://www.luminarium.org/sevenlit/donne/mourning.php | ||
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nbaker
United States1341 Posts
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CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
In Flanders Fields, by John McCrae In Flanders fields the poppies blow Between the crosses, row on row, That mark our place; and in the sky The larks, still bravely singing, fly Scarce heard amid the guns below. We are the Dead. Short days ago We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow, Loved and were loved, and now we lie In Flanders fields. Take up our quarrel with the foe: To you from failing hands we throw The torch; be yours to hold it high. If ye break faith with us who die We shall not sleep, though poppies grow In Flanders fields. | ||
infinitestory
United States4053 Posts
On May 28 2011 12:49 nbaker wrote: My favorite poems are Kubla Khan by Samuel Coleridge and anything by T.S. Eliot. I really like poems that make beautiful and interesting images without bothering to tie them together neatly into some kind of narrative or simple description. +1 to Kubla Khan. It's a genius work. Mending Wall by Robert Frost is pretty interesting too, especially in historical context. | ||
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Oreo7
United States1647 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21243 Posts
Dante's Divine Comedy is technically a poem, and is another one of my favorites. Paradise Lost by John Milton as well. John Donne is great as someone mentioned. Death be Not Proud is a particular favorite of mine. Other good ones include The Second Coming by William Butler Yeats, and Ode to a Grecian Urn and Ode to Psyche by John Keats. | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
Sometimes when people say what their favourite poem is, I get the intense feeling of "wow, you took an English course one time." I suppose it can't be helped. I myself almost never read poetry outside of the literary canon. | ||
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tnkted
United States1359 Posts
i sing of Olaf glad and big whose warmest heart recoiled at war: a conscientious object-or his wellbelovéd colonel(trig westpointer most succinctly bred) took erring Olaf soon in hand; but--though an host of overjoyed noncoms(first knocking on the head him)do through icy waters roll that helplessness which others stroke with brushes recently employed anent this muddy toiletbowl, while kindred intellects evoke allegiance per blunt instruments-- Olaf(being to all intents a corpse and wanting any rag upon what God unto him gave) responds,without getting annoyed "I will not kiss your fucking flag" straightway the silver bird looked grave (departing hurriedly to shave) but--though all kinds of officers (a yearning nation's blueeyed pride) their passive prey did kick and curse until for wear their clarion voices and boots were much the worse, and egged the firstclassprivates on his rectum wickedly to tease by means of skilfully applied bayonets roasted hot with heat-- Olaf(upon what were once knees) does almost ceaselessly repeat "there is some shit I will not eat" our president,being of which assertions duly notified threw the yellowsonofabitch into a dungeon,where he died Christ(of His mercy infinite) i pray to see;and Olaf,too preponderatingly because unless statistics lie he was more brave than me:more blond than you. Or if you're feeling a little bit more modern you could listen to ginsburg read Howl parts 1 & 2 right here: http://www.poets.org/viewmedia.php/prmMID/15308 Its amazing to me that they are able to do that. Listening to Ginsburg read this poem is the literary equivalent of listening to Jimmy hendrix playing the national anthem at woodstock. Or you could read this poem thats apparently really famous but I'd never heard of it before one of my classes this year: The Bear BY GALWAY KINNELL 1 In late winter I sometimes glimpse bits of steam coming up from some fault in the old snow and bend close and see it is lung-colored and put down my nose and know the chilly, enduring odor of bear. 2 I take a wolf’s rib and whittle it sharp at both ends and coil it up and freeze it in blubber and place it out on the fairway of the bears. And when it has vanished I move out on the bear tracks, roaming in circles until I come to the first, tentative, dark splash on the earth. And I set out running, following the splashes of blood wandering over the world. At the cut, gashed resting places I stop and rest, at the crawl-marks where he lay out on his belly to overpass some stretch of bauchy ice I lie out dragging myself forward with bear-knives in my fists. 3 On the third day I begin to starve, at nightfall I bend down as I knew I would at a turd sopped in blood, and hesitate, and pick it up, and thrust it in my mouth, and gnash it down, and rise and go on running. 4 On the seventh day, living by now on bear blood alone, I can see his upturned carcass far out ahead, a scraggled, steamy hulk, the heavy fur riffling in the wind. I come up to him and stare at the narrow-spaced, petty eyes, the dismayed face laid back on the shoulder, the nostrils flared, catching perhaps the first taint of me as he died. I hack a ravine in his thigh, and eat and drink, and tear him down his whole length and open him and climb in and close him up after me, against the wind, and sleep. 5 And dream of lumbering flatfooted over the tundra, stabbed twice from within, splattering a trail behind me, splattering it out no matter which way I lurch, no matter which parabola of bear-transcendence, which dance of solitude I attempt, which gravity-clutched leap, which trudge, which groan. 6 Until one day I totter and fall— fall on this stomach that has tried so hard to keep up, to digest the blood as it leaked in, to break up and digest the bone itself: and now the breeze blows over me, blows off the hideous belches of ill-digested bear blood and rotted stomach and the ordinary, wretched odor of bear, blows across my sore, lolled tongue a song or screech, until I think I must rise up and dance. And I lie still. 7 I awaken I think. Marshlights reappear, geese come trailing again up the flyway. In her ravine under old snow the dam-bear lies, licking lumps of smeared fur and drizzly eyes into shapes with her tongue. And one hairy-soled trudge stuck out before me, the next groaned out, the next, the next, the rest of my days I spend wandering: wondering what, anyway, was that sticky infusion, that rank flavor of blood, that poetry, by which I lived? I'll give you a hint: its not really a ghost story. | ||
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Treadmill
Canada2833 Posts
 "unstructured space is a deluge"+ Show Spoiler + Progressive insanities of a pioneer Margaret Atwood i He stood, a point on a sheet of green paper proclaiming himself the centre, with no walls, no borders anywhere; the sky no height above him, totally unenclosed and shouted: Let me out! ii He dug the soil in rows, imposed himself with shovels He asserted into the furrows, I am not random. The ground replied with aphorisms: a tree-sprout, a nameless weed, words he couldn't understand. iii The house pitched the plot staked in the middle of nowhere. At night the mind inside, in the middle of nowhere. The idea of an animal patters across the roof. In the darkness the fields defend themselves with fences in vain: everything is getting in. iv By daylight he resisted. He said, disgusted with the swamp's clamourings and the outbursts of rocks, this is not order but the absence of order. He was wrong, the unanswering forest implied: It was an ordered absence v For many years he fished for a great vision, dangling the hooks of sown roots under the surface of the shallow earth. It was like enticing whales with a bent pin. Besides he though in that country only the worms were biting. vi If he had known unstructured space is a deluge and stocked his log house— boat with all the animals even the wolves he might have floated. But obstinate he stated, The land is solid and stamped, watching his foot sink down through stone up to the knee. vii Things refused to name themselves; refused to let him name them. The wolves hunted outside. On his beaches, his clearings, by the surf of under— growth breaking at his feet, he foresaw disintegration and in the end through eyes made ragged by his effort, the tension between subject and object, the green vision, the unnamed whale invaded. You might want to check out some other 20th century poets - Atwood, ee cummings, and Seamus Heaney are some of my faves. EDIT: added spoiler tags. the poem is kinda long. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
Those Winter Sundays Sundays too my father got up early and put his clothes on in the blueback cold then with cracked hands that ached from labor in the weekday weather made banked in fires blaze. No one ever thanked him. I'd wake and hear the cold splinering, breaking. When the rooms were warm, he'd call and slowly I would rise and dress fearing the chronic angers of the house, Speaking indifferently to him, who had driven out the cold and polished my good shoes as well What did I know, what did I know of love's austere and lonely offices The name eludes me, but I always loved this poem. | ||
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tnkted
United States1359 Posts
On May 28 2011 13:20 Chef wrote: Sometimes when people say what their favourite poem is, I get the intense feeling of "wow, you took an English course one time." I suppose it can't be helped. I myself almost never read poetry outside of the literary canon. Yeah this is a common problem. I think its because they teach the most boring poems in school; there are way more exciting poems that you could spend your time reading than the ones they give you in school. I mean Liz Browning is great but she has way better poems then "let me count the ways I love thee." And don't even get me started on the merits of presenting Plath to a bunch of middle schoolers. You just have to find the right poet! Modern readers will find the most complexity and surprise in poems that are more contemporary because older poems feel dated. I posted two big (relatively) contemporary hits above, but there are a ton of really really good poets that are still living and writing today who write stuff that is much more exciting to me than things written by dead people. Robert Hass is an example. Also Billy Collins (although I think he died recently) and that Gluck woman, whatshername... I think its Lucille Gluck although I could be mistaken. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On May 28 2011 13:20 Chef wrote: Sometimes when people say what their favourite poem is, I get the intense feeling of "wow, you read and became interested in poetry on your own" I fixed it for you. I'd die just once if my english classes taught any remote form of poetry. | ||
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tnkted
United States1359 Posts
On May 28 2011 13:35 Torte de Lini wrote: The name eludes me, but I always loved this poem. Thats Robert Hass! No... Hayden. Yep, just googled it, Robert Hayden. | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
On May 28 2011 13:37 tnkted wrote: Yeah this is a common problem. I think its because they teach the most boring poems in school; there are way more exciting poems that you could spend your time reading than the ones they give you in school. What? This is like the opposite of what I said. And don't call Elizabeth Browning "Liz" lol. Every single poet mentioned in this thread (including Mrs. Browning) is taught in school. On May 28 2011 13:40 Torte de Lini wrote: I fixed it for you. I'd die just once if my english classes taught any remote form of poetry. English in high school is different from English in university. English in high school is just trying to teach you how to read and write proficiently, with a few famous examples. English in university is a wide survey of each movement that makes up the history of English literature, and you will certainly encounter legitimate study of poetry  | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On May 28 2011 13:41 tnkted wrote: Thats Robert Hass! No... Hayden. Yep, just googled it, Robert Hayden. @____________@ I love you. Thanks a lot. I wasn't aware of who wrote it for awhile, but I've always been fond of this poem, fond of the theme. | ||
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Oreo7
United States1647 Posts
. Ozy I read outside at first, the other two inside school, though Frost was life 5th grade and I reread it on my own last year. My dad has a bunch of anthologies I like to look through and poetry.org is a great resource. | ||
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tnkted
United States1359 Posts
On May 28 2011 13:41 Chef wrote: What? This is like the opposite of what I said. And don't call Elizabeth Browning "Liz" lol. Every single poet mentioned in this thread (including Mrs. Browning) is taught in school. I know, that's my point. So many people today don't like poetry because the poems they teach in school are the most boring ones. Yes, many of Shakespeares poems are really good and fun to read but to someone who woke up ten minutes before the bus showed up Shakespeare is the least interesting thing in the world. You don't show your girlfriend Thorzain videos when you introduce her to starcraft, you show her Boxer or TLO vods. (and my spellchecker hated Elizabeth no matter how I spelt it so I just said liz instead to satisfy my OCD.) | ||
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flowSthead
1065 Posts
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Iranon
United States983 Posts
EDIT: Actually, that's probably a complete lie. My real favorite poems are all by Jack Prelutsky and possibly some Shel Silverstein. I'm currently thinking of such enduring greats as When Daddy Sat on the Tomatoes. Seriously, "A Pizza the Size of the Sun" is one of my most treasured books. + Show Spoiler + The tractor stands frozen - an agony To think of. All night Snow packed its open entrails. Now a head-pincering gale, A spill of molten ice, smoking snow, Pours into its steel. At white heat of numbness it stands In the aimed hosing of ground-level fieriness. It defied flesh and won't start. Hands are like wounds already Inside armour gloves, and feet are unbelievable As if the toe-nails were all just torn off. I stare at it in hatred. Beyond it The copse hisses - capitulates miserably In the fleeing, failing light. Starlings, A dirtier sleetier snow, blow smokily, unendingly, over Towards plantations Eastward. All the time the tractor is sinking Through the degrees, deepening Into its hell of ice. The starting lever Cracks its action, like a snapping knuckle. The battery is alive - but like a lamb Trying to nudge its solid-frozen mother - While the seat claims my buttock-bones, bites With the space-cold of earth, which it has joined In one solid lump. I squirt commercial sure-fire Down the black throat - it just coughs. It ridicules me - a trap of iron stupidity I've stepped into. I drive the battery As if I were hammering and hammering The frozen arrangement to pieces with a hammer And it jabbers laughing pain-crying mockingly Into happy life. And stands Shuddering itself full of heat, seeming to enlarge slowly Like a demon demonstrating A more-than-usually-complete materialization - Suddenly it jerks from its solidarity With the concrete, and lurches towards a stanchion Bursting with superhuman well-being and abandon Shouting Where Where? Worse iron is waiting. Power-lift kneels Levers awake imprisoned deadweight, Shackle-pins bedded in cast-iron cow-shit. The blind and vibrating condemned obedience Of iron to the cruelty of iron, Wheels screeched out of their night-locks - Fingers Among the tormented Tonnage and burning of iron Eyes Weeping in the wind of chloroform And the tractor, streaming with sweat, Raging and trembling and rejoicing. | ||
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AiurZ
United States429 Posts
Also, I like George Herbert because he was so gifted that he could write bad poetry. | ||
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zOula...
United States898 Posts
we had goldfish and they circled around and around in the bowl on the table near the heavy drapes covering the picture window and my mother, always smiling, wanting us all to be happy, told me, 'be happy Henry!' and she was right: it's better to be happy if you can but my father continued to beat her and me several times a week while raging inside his 6-foot-two frame because he couldn't understand what was attacking him from within. my mother, poor fish, wanting to be happy, beaten two or three times a week, telling me to be happy: 'Henry, smile! why don't you ever smile?' and then she would smile, to show me how, and it was the saddest smile I ever saw one day the goldfish died, all five of them, they floated on the water, on their sides, their eyes still open, and when my father got home he threw them to the cat there on the kitchen floor and we watched as my mother smiled | ||
SirJolt
the Dagon Knight4004 Posts
William Carlos Williams - This is just to say Both are wonderful heartgrabbers | ||
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bellhop
United States165 Posts
On May 28 2011 13:37 tnkted wrote: Yeah this is a common problem. I think its because they teach the most boring poems in school; there are way more exciting poems that you could spend your time reading than the ones they give you in school. I mean Liz Browning is great but she has way better poems then "let me count the ways I love thee." And don't even get me started on the merits of presenting Plath to a bunch of middle schoolers. You just have to find the right poet! Modern readers will find the most complexity and surprise in poems that are more contemporary because older poems feel dated. I posted two big (relatively) contemporary hits above, but there are a ton of really really good poets that are still living and writing today who write stuff that is much more exciting to me than things written by dead people. Robert Hass is an example. Also Billy Collins (although I think he died recently) and that Gluck woman, whatshername... I think its Lucille Gluck although I could be mistaken. Billy Collins is still alive and well. Also, I agree that Louise Gluck is pretty good, we read her work recently in a workshop class. "Here, Bullet", by Brian Turner is a great collection of poetry about the Iraq War, and is definitely worth reading. And, to the person posting the Bukowski poem, I have read a lot of Bukowski but hadn't read that one before. Great poem! | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21243 Posts
A blanket statement that "dated" poems are boring while contemporary poetry is better is quite silly ;o | ||
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jon arbuckle
Canada443 Posts
On May 28 2011 12:38 Oreo7 wrote: Recently I really like Robert Frost's "Stopping by the Woods on a Snowy Evening" Wordsworth's "Daffodils" and Shelleys "Ozymandias". I really like Romanticism, although I don't necessarily agree with the philosophy, I feel it does provide a generally happy world view which is hard to find in literature. Got any recommendations? Major turn offs for me are heavy god themes (I have trouble reading most Milton because of this), and bad love poetry. If what draws you to romanticism is its stock in human emotion and lack of cynicism and despair (as opposed to its formality), I'd recommend Frank O'Hara. His mechanics are looser (more Whitman/Ginsberg), but his enthusiasm, spontaneity, and emotion is contagious. Urban (e.g. Love Poems), not bound to tried descriptions of forest scenery, sort of sprints out with feeling for his subjects, making his poetry immensely readable, touching, and pertinent. His "Having a coke with you" is one of my favourite love poems (or poems period) because it communicates without cheese or cliche something mundane, makes it huge, which is all you can ask for from a poem, really. From the sound of it you'd also like William Carlos Williams. I haven't read Hart Crane yet, but supposedly his The Bridge attempts to apply the The Wasteland to something optimistic, positive, and sincere. Try that too. edit: Also, for reserved (i.e. less scattershot than O'Hara, less spare than WCW), more explicitly abstract and philosophical poetry, check out Wallace Stevens. | ||
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Kamille
Monaco1035 Posts
For Romanticism, I'd just suggest John Keats' Bright Star or Lord Byron's She walks in beauty. | ||
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