EPTwhat main section does petro fall into? Chemical?
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bdictkam
Canada155 Posts
what main section does petro fall into? Chemical? | ||
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Fission
Canada1184 Posts
With that said, undergrad really, really doesn't matter that much in terms of where you do it. Both ubc and uofa have good programs, the weather is shitty in both places, and both have asian-centric campuses (although less so at uofa). The only real "pro" for uofa is that if you do a co-op program, you can usually get fairly lucrative coop terms with companies here for real cash dollars. PM me if you have any specific questions. | ||
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bdictkam
Canada155 Posts
Pm'd u fission | ||
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Jtn
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You're way exaggerating the amount of asians in engineering. There are plenty of caucasians, especially in the engineerings fields you're planning on going into. | ||
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bdictkam
Canada155 Posts
On May 27 2011 12:34 Jtn wrote: I'm in engineering at UBC. You're way exaggerating the amount of asians in engineering. There are plenty of caucasians, especially in the engineerings fields you're planning on going into. I am only going off of what ive heard 2nd hand.. this is why im trying to get a better understanding  What field are you in Jtn? Is the rain also exadurated? Does UBC have good opportunities to work in oil and gas if i eventualy want to do that? What are your coop prospects for your field and other fields you might know about? | ||
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Jtn
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I'm not sure about oil/gas opportunities. I'm in the coop program but each field of engineering is separated into its own coop so I can't give you much info for the other fields.. Many coop jobs are in other provinces though, so it's not like you'll be excluded from promising jobs in say, Alberta. | ||
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bdictkam
Canada155 Posts
yikes 80% rain haha... how does the soil not wash away! I visited van in june 2 years ago and it was sunshine and beaches haha.. How is your social experience at UBC so far? Do you enjoy the school spirit and events? | ||
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Zapdos_Smithh
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mikeymoo
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jjeff
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If you go into coop, you won't be limited just to the area your school is in. UBC coop has many postings for the oil industry in Alberta, as well as many positions for different fields all over the world. Also, I'd guess that at least 50% of postings for coop jobs appear in both UBC and UofA coop job boards.At my coop position right now, I'm working with two students from UofA. I think a lot of people who graduate from CHBE at UBC work in oil as well, but I'm not too sure. Let me ask you this though bdictkam, where do you live right now? From your posts I'm guessing you don't live in an area with many asian people. I'm asian, and some of your thoughts just aren't true. From what I've experienced, asian students (while generally they better in my high school) don't do better than other demographics in engineering. The top students in my department are very ethnically diverse, as are the bottom end students who drop out. UBC does have a large asian population though, and you seem pretty uncomfortable with that. I'd say that you get the same amount of jocks, nerds, etc in every race but I don't know if you'd trust an asian person saying that. tl;dr: Both degrees are basically the same from an education standpoint, and asians aren't that different | ||
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Cambium
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At my grad school, most Canadians I've met come from the following three: UT McGill UBC I don't have a strong basis, but it's something. | ||
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bdictkam
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I8PP
Canada186 Posts
Vancouver weather is generally mild; it rains a lot during the school year, though. There will always be at least a couple days where the streets of UBC will resemble a river due to the crappy drainage system. As you know, the reward for putting up with this is awesome weather the rest of the time - nearly limitless recreational options. Engineers at UBC are a diverse bunch - I haven't seen any racial imbalance. Also, they seem to have the most fun out of anyone on campus. Another incentive to come to UBC - we've got a pretty good Starcraft community out here. CSL champions! | ||
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Flaccid
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I attended U of A because of the world-class facilities pertaining to my degree, which was engineering physics. The National Institute of Nanotechnology is at the U of A, along with top-drawer laboratory facilities, lecture halls, and so on. There is a lot of money available to the U of A when it comes to engineering and it seems that every time it snaps its fingers, it gets another 60 million dollars for a new engineering building. It's a nice perk. And I wouldn't worry about the quality of students, the competition, or the 'Asian factor'. My electrical engineering classes were typically 90% Asian and everything else was packed with grad students and honors physics students. Plus the program itself accepted only the top 30 or so applicants out of first year based on grades so it was pretty lame for a lazy-ass like me. My point is that no matter which way you turn, you are going to be riding the curve with some very smart people and it shouldn't factor into your overall decision. I would also put less emphasis on the specifics of the engineering degree you choose. My experience from the working world is that many engineering degrees are treated as shades of the same color. The petroleum industry, for example, is just as likely to hire a mechanical or electrical engineer as a petroleum engineer. Hell, they might be even more likely to do so as it's a more of a classical program and degree that people understand. The point is that for the most part, an engineering degree is an engineering degree is an engineering degree. Most employers understand that real-world work will have little or nothing to do with what you learned in school but the degree itself implies that you will be able to pick it up and do it well. And simply put, engineers like to hire other engineers. No matter which school you choose, you will end up with a good degree from a reputable institution. But a large portion of the 'university experience' is getting out of your comfort zone, experiencing new people and new things, and you should consider which environment will be most beneficial for this. I faced a similar decision to you when I was choosing between U of A and McGill. Edmonton was an easy fit for me because I was born an Oilers fan and grew up in Alberta. I was closer to my family this way. It seemed like the natural choice. Though in hindsight, I wish that I had taken the opportunity to go live on the other side of the country and experience something 100% new. Instead I went with what was comfortable. It was a good experience, nonetheless, but I can't help but think that I missed out on a one-time opportunity to do something different. Now I'm a working stiff and that chapter of my life is behind me. Wah. Vancouver is an amazing, world-class city in itself. Amazing food, amazing sites, and the best weather in the country (well, maybe next to Victoria). I have a soft spot in my heart for Edmonton, but if I had to choose a destination, Vancouver would win every time. And as you don't seem to be leaning towards the study of electrical or physics (and then likely won't get to take advantage of the NINT and other research facilities at the U of A), maybe BC is the better choice? Either way, you have to make the choice. The good news is that there isn't really a wrong choice. Maybe a 'less-right' choice, but that's a good spot to be in. As a fun aside, engineering students consider a civil degree to be what people get when they can't get into any of the other programs. A petroleum degree is what they get when they can't get into civil... After that, well, there's a degree in education. Narcissistic bastards! There's a reason all of my friends were arts students. | ||
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mikeymoo
Canada7170 Posts
On May 27 2011 23:52 Flaccid wrote: And simply put, engineers like to hire other engineers. Except eng phys, yes? It's okay, I'm going into math finance lol. The "Asian factor" has changed since Flaccid graduated here. EE classes are about 40% yellow, 40% brown, 20% white. On the topic of civil, I make it a point when someone tells me they're in civE to ask "Oh, what was your first choice?" Gets 'em every time. | ||
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bdictkam
Canada155 Posts
http://www.engineering.ualberta.ca/en/Students/PlanningProgram/ChoosingSpecialization/GPAsSecondYearPrograms.aspx Thanks for such an informative write up Flaccid, i am wondering then, are my choices of mech civil mining and petro and pretty washed together in some ways? I think im gonna pick BC, i just want to make sure not having petro wont hold me back. Landing a 150k petro job and getting to travel and be worldly accomplished is kinda of a little bit of my drive :D But i can be happy with a 60k job mining in BC.. I know people say options are good to have but big life ones seem impossible to make when u think about alot of factors.. I had thought EE is the easiest to get into requiring the lowest GPA... Another question id have is how much of highschool repeat is first year? Some teachers say its alot some say u get the ground running... It rained here in calgary yesturday and i just listened to the splashing i think id really perfer rain to the snow of edmonton.. I just enter a lower energy state when it snows and falls below -5 i think the temps of van will inspire me Thanks for all your opinons they are enlightening and reassuring to me. | ||
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bdictkam
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Flaccid
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Thanks for the link - the entrance requirements have definitely changed substantially from when I entered my second year - granted that was quite a few years ago at this point =). My only guess for the change would be supply and demand, with perhaps more people leaning towards the fields you're looking at right now. I remember when I applied for second year, physics was this fancy new program that people thought was just the cat's-ass so the entry cut off was something stupid like 3.7 or 3.8. In the course of a few years though, people realized employers don't know what the hell an Eng Phys degree is (jobs are for losers), demand went down and the entrance requirements dropped. EE used to be next in line, but it seems as though it has lost flavour. Makes sense considering the money and opportunity available for graduates of other disciplines in this part of the world. If I were to do it all again, I'd probably do something more relevant, like MecE - screw that, I'd take arts. Regarding the disciplines, it's probably best to group them. With things like mechanical and petro, there is overlap so you can arguably do whatever a PetE can with a MecE degree. Same with computers, electrical, and physics. Next, materials and chemical. I work in the natural resource industry (ha, who doesn't around here?) and most people I run into are mechanical engineers. I meet some petroleum engineers too from time to time but most of them work as field operators or something somewhat below their potential (take that with a grain of salt - small sample size). Civil and mining are fairly different beasts if you have a direct indication of what you want to be doing with your life. Every mining engineer I know works near a mine - go figure ;-). I'm not an expert by any means, but personally I think you can accomplish what you expect to with a petroleum degree by getting a mechanical degree in BC. As far as repeat goes, I guess it depends on what you did in high school. With pretty much everyone and their dog taking AP classes these days, you can expect a bit. I'm sure Mikeymoo would be able to answer that better, having done his degree more recently. It's weird, first year isn't anything too crazy (they save that 'til third year in my opinion) yet there you are, surrounded by people who were honours students in high school and inexplicably half of them bomb out and many others barely squeak by. I guess that's why the 2nd year requirements are so low as so few people close out the year with anything to be proud of. Anyways, best of luck with your choice. Any chance you can tour the BC campus before making your decision? Might be worth the trip! | ||
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bdictkam
Canada155 Posts
I wonder if anyone else can confirm your idea of being able to do mec at BC and having pretty much the same options as a petro? Cause really the only reason im considering A over BC is options. Thanks for your long informative post | ||
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
For repeat in courses, it's probably varies by University/Province a bit. I think you will find that material wise, the courses are pretty similar, however the whole approach in University is totally different-- I think I'll just leave it at that. | ||
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