high diamond

Xsoild

United States121 Posts

May 19 2011 09:32 GMT

Hello, i am in high diamond currently rank 6 right now. whenever i get this high in diamond i always..........ALWAYS.... get cheesed back down to rank 10. it never fails. ever game i play after i get in top 8 i never get a game past 6 mins. its always a 7 pool or marine scv allin or cannon or whatever else you can think of. it is really frustrating and i am wondering if everyone higher that that is just terrible and all they do is cheese because this is how it seems to me.

anyone else having these problems? so far right now im in top 8 and have fended off three all ins so far and counting. to tired to play now i don't wanna have to defend cheese while i cant think very or react very fast as i really want to get into masters really bad.

Entropic

Canada2837 Posts

May 19 2011 10:12 GMT

You think people don't cheese in masters or grandmasters??? Defending against cheese (this means making your opening builds safe early game) is an important skill to have. If youre openers arent safe then people will cheese you and succeed.

enrOo

Finland23 Posts

May 19 2011 10:39 GMT

same for me... or moreless the fact that i switch races allthe time....however 7pools and cannon rushes are easy to counter, practice makes best. And im guessing the people in top diamond would be playing are low master league ... " people who cant beat proper master leaguers and cheese to try get few points "..

marine scv all in = op

Vlare

748 Posts

May 19 2011 11:10 GMT

I'm in masters. LOL.

Play smart = don't die to cheese

Synystyr

United States1446 Posts

May 19 2011 11:23 GMT

This is what ladder is for, you need to be ready for anything since you don't know what your opponent is capable of at all. Be diligent about scouting. There's really nothing else that stops cheese better than knowing its coming and preparing properly.

You're Protoss right? If you're really quite worried, develop a cheese proof build. 3 Gate Sentry expand is a good example. Lots of forcefields will completely deny your opponent access to your ramp while your goal is a fairly fast expansion so you won't be behind.

Open standard with a zealot first and then mass sentries afterwards. Very sturdy indeed.

Masters level Terran here btw.

Xsoild

United States121 Posts

May 19 2011 11:38 GMT

hey guess what???? cheesed to rank 10 again this game is terrble

insta111

United States80 Posts

May 19 2011 11:44 GMT

Hey, like your sig says, keep on trying!

Being able to defend cheesey stuff is important, anyway, so it's good practice.

annYeong(o11)

Canada784 Posts

May 19 2011 12:59 GMT

hmm, I haven't experianced the cheese fest you describe at rank 3 diamond.

Oh yeah, I was the one cheesing.

TheAwesomeAll

Netherlands1609 Posts

May 19 2011 14:31 GMT

If you want to get better, practice
If you want to be cheese proof, ladder
Simple as that

(also the cheese in master are just better, not less frequent

)

Darclite

United States1021 Posts

May 19 2011 21:31 GMT

#10

I think it might help to find a practice partner (doesn't really matter who, not hard to execute a 7 pool), play standard until you scout it, then rush to defend against it until you feel safe and confident against any cheese.

Torte de Lini

Germany38463 Posts

May 19 2011 21:44 GMT

#11

That's all I do in High-Diamond. I'm Rank 1 Diamond playing Master's and I'm going to baneling bust them guess what they're doing? SCV Marine all-in

Jayme

United States5866 Posts

May 19 2011 21:48 GMT

#12

Cheese is all you really find in SC2 ladder at any level.

It doesn't decrease in frequency, it just gets harder to deal with because the player cheesing you is better.

platorepublic

United Kingdom344 Posts

May 19 2011 21:50 GMT

#13

How this is worthy of a blog post really perplexes me.

Dalguno

United States2446 Posts

May 19 2011 21:50 GMT

#14

I'm rank two in diamond, and the other day had somebody try to go 3 stargate on one base. He didn't put up the Stargates until about 9 minutes in when he finally killed my scouting drone. But, alas, I saw the stargates as his zealots didn't make a tight wall. He proceeded to continue with a one-base mothership build.

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