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Who likes Colossi?

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Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
May 10 2011 03:18 GMT
#1
I sure don't!


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From a game I played in the EVO vs Quantum Gaming clanwar today ^_^

The total kill count of my army including the sentries/stalkers/voids in the middle of the map was over 500 O_O

/brag post

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'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
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Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
May 10 2011 03:21 GMT
#2
PvZ so balanced etc etc.
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RyanRushia
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2748 Posts
May 10 2011 03:30 GMT
#3
BAHAHAHA jake so op
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loveeholicce
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Korea (South)785 Posts
May 10 2011 03:31 GMT
#4
I hate collosus, and not even from a balance perspective >_>
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-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
May 10 2011 03:46 GMT
#5
On May 10 2011 12:31 loveeholicce wrote:
I hate collosus, and not even from a balance perspective >_>


haha I completely agree!
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
Ulfsark
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States958 Posts
May 10 2011 03:49 GMT
#6
I think the reason they are so strong is because the attack upgrade counts twice since they have 2 attacks.
gg wp
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
May 10 2011 03:51 GMT
#7
On May 10 2011 12:49 Ulfsark wrote:
I think the reason they are so strong is because the attack upgrade counts twice since they have 2 attacks.


No

Tons of units have 2 attacks... here's some just off the top of my head

zealot
phoenix
colossus
stalker
viking
thor
brood lord?

etc etc

It also means armor upgrades for the opponent are being counted twice....

It really has absolutely nothing to do with how strong the colossi are
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
Sarang
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia2363 Posts
May 10 2011 03:56 GMT
#8
On May 10 2011 12:46 -orb- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 12:31 loveeholicce wrote:
I hate collosus, and not even from a balance perspective >_>


haha I completely agree!


Secon- I mean thirded.

I despise colossi, not because they're powerful or anything, but because they're just so boring. There's absolutely no excitement when an army gets destroyed by colossi. =(

"Killer helped me feel better before coming to the arena. He told me to say that." - Bomber
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
May 10 2011 04:03 GMT
#9
On May 10 2011 12:56 Sarang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 12:46 -orb- wrote:
On May 10 2011 12:31 loveeholicce wrote:
I hate collosus, and not even from a balance perspective >_>


haha I completely agree!


Secon- I mean thirded.

I despise colossi, not because they're powerful or anything, but because they're just so boring. There's absolutely no excitement when an army gets destroyed by colossi. =(



Yeah, just like with marauders/roaches

Unfortunately the "staple" units that all 3 races rely on are all extremely boring and require minimal to no micro
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
Dhalphir
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1305 Posts
May 10 2011 04:11 GMT
#10
I have no problem with Colossus, I just have a problem with the fact that they are pretty much the best unit for 90% of given situations in all 3 matchups. They are too common.
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Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
May 10 2011 04:28 GMT
#11
I had a scourge with 2 kills once. Beat that.
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Parametric
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1261 Posts
May 10 2011 04:41 GMT
#12
On May 10 2011 13:28 Megaliskuu wrote:
I had a scourge with 2 kills once. Beat that.


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Irradiate? I actually want to know how for some reason lol
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Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
May 10 2011 04:46 GMT
#13
Microing colossi makes me want to punch a puppy. Feels like it doesn't belong in this game with it's super slow turn speed and overall clumsiness. They do shoot giant lasers that kill everything though so I guess it's somewhat mitigated.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
May 10 2011 04:51 GMT
#14
On May 10 2011 13:28 Megaliskuu wrote:
I had a scourge with 2 kills once. Beat that.

Yeah, I too want to know how this happened...D matrix scourge survives to kill another target?

Or just some sort of really weird long-range-zealot-esque glitch that caused that?
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Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
May 10 2011 04:58 GMT
#15
On May 10 2011 13:03 -orb- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 12:56 Sarang wrote:
On May 10 2011 12:46 -orb- wrote:
On May 10 2011 12:31 loveeholicce wrote:
I hate collosus, and not even from a balance perspective >_>


haha I completely agree!


Secon- I mean thirded.

I despise colossi, not because they're powerful or anything, but because they're just so boring. There's absolutely no excitement when an army gets destroyed by colossi. =(



Yeah, just like with marauders/roaches

Unfortunately the "staple" units that all 3 races rely on are all extremely boring and require minimal to no micro


This is what Ive been complaining about forever. Even if the colossi and marauder werent so stupidly powerful (colossi in all 3 matchups and marauder in tvp), they'd still be the insanely uninspired and boring units.

Like you said, units that are very mobile, do lots of damage and are quite beefy (well colossi arent that beefy themselves but when they have their ball to defend them then yeah), and ofc require minimal micro.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
May 10 2011 05:43 GMT
#16
Funny to see this lol, orb I know that you've been saying collosus are stupid in terms of balance since beta, and that you hated playing with them, but looks like you're converting to the dark side.
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-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
May 10 2011 10:49 GMT
#17
On May 10 2011 14:43 Zlasher wrote:
Funny to see this lol, orb I know that you've been saying collosus are stupid in terms of balance since beta, and that you hated playing with them, but looks like you're converting to the dark side.


Well unfortunately blizzard has been nerfing the shit out of protoss since the beta, and now with the removal of khaydarin amulet I am essentially forced to go colossi in every matchup at least some of the time (if not a majority).

I really hate it, but unfortunately that's what you HAVE to do as protoss to win... all the other units are so terrible
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
May 10 2011 10:55 GMT
#18
Aww, this is almost like a requiem for the reaver, so long buddy, it was nice knowing you
Aah thats the stuff..
Bairemuth
Profile Joined June 2010
United States404 Posts
May 10 2011 11:49 GMT
#19
I love protoss and that's pretty much all I play, but I really hate colossi...such a boring unit. Maybe future expansions will provide other options so that I don't have to make colossi in order to survive.
drooL
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2108 Posts
May 10 2011 12:38 GMT
#20
nobody ~__~ just such a stupid unit...
@nowSimon
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
May 10 2011 13:14 GMT
#21
On May 10 2011 19:49 -orb- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 14:43 Zlasher wrote:
Funny to see this lol, orb I know that you've been saying collosus are stupid in terms of balance since beta, and that you hated playing with them, but looks like you're converting to the dark side.


Well unfortunately blizzard has been nerfing the shit out of protoss since the beta, and now with the removal of khaydarin amulet I am essentially forced to go colossi in every matchup at least some of the time (if not a majority).

I really hate it, but unfortunately that's what you HAVE to do as protoss to win... all the other units are so terrible


that's my perspective too and it sucks. amulet back and collossi replaced hots would actually make me pretty happy once timings are figured out and all that.

it sucks that we can't ignore collossi for the most part but immortal HT is fun against Zerg
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-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
May 11 2011 00:17 GMT
#22
On May 10 2011 22:14 ZeromuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 19:49 -orb- wrote:
On May 10 2011 14:43 Zlasher wrote:
Funny to see this lol, orb I know that you've been saying collosus are stupid in terms of balance since beta, and that you hated playing with them, but looks like you're converting to the dark side.


Well unfortunately blizzard has been nerfing the shit out of protoss since the beta, and now with the removal of khaydarin amulet I am essentially forced to go colossi in every matchup at least some of the time (if not a majority).

I really hate it, but unfortunately that's what you HAVE to do as protoss to win... all the other units are so terrible


that's my perspective too and it sucks. amulet back and collossi replaced hots would actually make me pretty happy once timings are figured out and all that.

it sucks that we can't ignore collossi for the most part but immortal HT is fun against Zerg


except that brood lords shit all over immortal ht since you don't have colos constantly cleaning up all the broodlings everywhere

you can say blink stalkers are the answer but when they morph ~8 brood lords and you try to blink under them in less then 2 seconds there will be like 30 broodlings killing your entire army faster than you can kill 2 brood lords
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
May 11 2011 00:22 GMT
#23
On May 10 2011 19:49 -orb- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 14:43 Zlasher wrote:
Funny to see this lol, orb I know that you've been saying collosus are stupid in terms of balance since beta, and that you hated playing with them, but looks like you're converting to the dark side.


Well unfortunately blizzard has been nerfing the shit out of protoss since the beta, and now with the removal of khaydarin amulet I am essentially forced to go colossi in every matchup at least some of the time (if not a majority).

I really hate it, but unfortunately that's what you HAVE to do as protoss to win... all the other units are so terrible


Protoss get nerfed every patch now we are the strongest race :D
LazyMacro
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
976 Posts
May 11 2011 01:03 GMT
#24
On May 10 2011 19:55 xarthaz wrote:
Aww, this is almost like a requiem for the reaver, so long buddy, it was nice knowing you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV9tEep8fmQ

loooooooooooooooool
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
May 11 2011 01:05 GMT
#25
"Hey guys, let's take the reaver, and make it a unit people can attack-move instead!"

I don't know what the thought process behind that one was... the reaver introduced so much excitement into the game... (can he micro his reaver well enough to win? Will that scarab kill 20 scvs or 2? etc)
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 11 2011 01:19 GMT
#26
In all fairness, the reaver was pretty cool, but it wasn't all good. The scarabs could bug out and massively screw you out of a game.
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
May 11 2011 01:30 GMT
#27
On May 11 2011 10:19 travis wrote:
In all fairness, the reaver was pretty cool, but it wasn't all good. The scarabs could bug out and massively screw you out of a game.


I'm fine with the scarabs but the one glitch I hate hate hate hate hate is when you right click a target with the reaver and the reaver decides it's a melee unit and crawls toward the thing you clicked on. (I think this is one of the reasons pros select with shuttle to target, right?)
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
May 11 2011 01:50 GMT
#28
I just think battles were much more enjoyable for both sides in BW. When a Protoss player was using reavers then the micro got really, really crazy for both the Protoss and the Zerg and it was just really fun like that. There would be the whole shuttle/sair vs. muta/scourge micro in the air and there would be positioning battles on the ground where if you dropped the reaver too up front then it would get sniped, but if I didn't spread my hydras right then one scarab would kill like 8 hydras or something omg.

The creep mechanic in SC2 is a joke. It isn't a buff in any way as it makes the hydra essentially unusable off creep. Roaches are incredibly boring compared to hydras and just as how microing colossi is so mindless for the Protoss, microing against it is as equally mindless. Same thing with templars. Templars have lost a lot of meaning because storm doesn't have the same "ZAP UR DEAD" effect against roaches, which replaced hydras as the 1.5 tech muscle unit. It doesn't really matter anyway, since no one uses templars in the first place.
zZygote
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada898 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-11 03:17:09
May 11 2011 03:16 GMT
#29
Not necessarily, templars are still very favorable lategame with 3+ bases. They shred terran bio, and can potentially turn into very very nasty archons.

Same can be applied with Zerg. Storms eat zerglings, hydras and mutas. Not to mention archons are quite the unit to fight against mutas. Their the Thor's of Protoss in PvT.

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