EPTThe Hypocrite Known as Testie - Page 3
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apalemorning
Canada509 Posts
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tyr
France1686 Posts
On May 10 2011 23:40 Chef wrote: I don't play HoN so I don't know the severity of the things he's done. The comments in the thread don't seem to suggest it's anything like what he did when he was 13 years old  Is it playing twice for your team because someone is missing? Maybe it's like Proleague's Ace format  A ringer is someone who plays for some other team who comes to play with you in a particular match. Everyone does it but it happened that apparently it was not authorized in that tournament. Fun part is, Testie has absolutely nothing to do with it lol. OP is just mad at Testie for some reason. | ||
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shalafi
394 Posts
On May 10 2011 23:01 Slakkoo wrote: What did they do to cheat? Pulled ancients? I think it's about Legion pulling their ancients with Devourer and letting the tower damage them and pulling the creep wave to pursue them. That can get you a lot of early xp and gold (if you manage to get the last hit). If that's it, I don't see how this would be different of picking pre-patch Legionnaire and exploit the charge bug. Edit: nvm, this seems recent and I'm pretty sure Dev hooking ancients was fixed. Dunno. | ||
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rei
United States3594 Posts
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
On May 11 2011 01:28 shalafi wrote: I think it's about Legion pulling their ancients with Devourer and letting the tower damage them and pulling the creep wave to pursue them. That can get you a lot of early xp and gold (if you manage to get the last hit). If that's it, I don't see how this would be different of picking pre-patch Legionnaire and exploit the charge bug. Edit: nvm, this seems recent and I'm pretty sure Dev hooking ancients was fixed. Dunno. how does this seem recent at all, lol, he's wearing the 5 tag making this back in beta i'm pretty sure it's referring to pulling the scourge ancients into bottom lane (something you can do even today with ease) it's certainly not cheating though | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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Bosu
United States3247 Posts
On May 11 2011 01:39 rei wrote: Guys like testie TT1 spades are forever haunted by their stupidity and immaturity when they were at their teens. Still they carried their tainted name and trying their best to be legit ever since. Everything they say and do is under magnifying glass, that's the weight they carry for the rest of their pro gaming career as long as they carry that name. I think most people don't care or are just joking when they bring it up. The few people who seriously care about people hacking when they were young BW players are retarded. | ||
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StallingHard
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TheWarbler
United States1659 Posts
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TheWarbler
United States1659 Posts
On May 10 2011 05:10 Zeroes wrote: all i know is LoL is better than HoN join liquidparty.net where you cant get banned for boosting No offense but your fucking stupid. The skill cap on LoL is so much lower then Hon/Dota. Why do you think Pro players will switch over to competitive LoL cause its easier and you can easily bust terrible players face. User was temp banned for this post. User was warned for this post | ||
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Duoma
United States396 Posts
On May 11 2011 01:39 rei wrote: Guys like testie TT1 spades are forever haunted by their stupidity and immaturity when they were at their teens. Still they carried their tainted name and trying their best to be legit ever since. Everything they say and do is under magnifying glass, that's the weight they carry for the rest of their pro gaming career as long as they carry that name. Well I mean that isn't completely true. Other players (haypro, dimaga come to mind) had maphacking/streamwatching controversies in the past, yet through consistent demonstration of maturity they have gotten past it. If you look at those screenshots that were posted, clearly Testie has not matured THAT much. A better example of this would likely be TT1. The way in which he responds to people on the forums just has this incredible air of immaturity and arrogance. Basically what i'm trying to say is that it isn't that hard to transcend past reputations. Plenty of players have done it, and the Esports attention span isn't that long. However you don't build up a reputation as a "mature" person/player by calling people faggots and flaming on forums. | ||
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rei
United States3594 Posts
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Duoma
United States396 Posts
On May 11 2011 08:07 rei wrote: I never said anything about testie and TT1 being mature, i only said they became legit, as in not hacking and cheating any more in bw/sc2 community. This is a statement that you made: Guys like testie TT1 spades are forever haunted by their stupidity and immaturity when they were at their teens I was merely stating that in certain cases, they have NOT grown out of this "stupidity and immaturity", so it seems reasonable for them to be under some what of a microscope. Your original post was insinuating that these players do not deserve to be judged in the same light as they were in the past. I am saying that if they have changed nothing about their personality/public image why should they be treated differently? | ||
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rei
United States3594 Posts
just for your information TL's official stand on TT1back then and TT1 now On June 30 2010 02:50 motbob wrote: This is not a black and white issue. You cannot take two year old quotes and apply them to a case which is much more complicated than you make it out to be. Check out this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=94907 The clear consensus in that thread is that tt1 has reformed. We can take the interview, and we can take the quotes by incontrol and Nony, which seem to argue against ever accepting claims of reform, and pit them against one another. Perhaps it is arguable whether tt1 is a member of the community who deserves a completely clean slate. However, the issue is not so clear-cut that you have the right to flame him without restraint. That's why you deserved the ban. (imo) I got owned for a 2 week ban, and i get a lot of leeway around for being part of the community since the very beginning. | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On May 10 2011 06:04 BouBou.865 wrote: If I go on LoL, and smurf on my friends 1200 ELO account and go 25/0 for 4 games straight, I take away all competitive spirit for all of the players involved. Smurfing ruins games. I disagree. I've learned far more from my games against obvious smurfs than against equal people. I don't mind smurfs in the least...you can learn alot from them. As for the boosting? Who cares? I can't fathom why it's ban worthy. As for the ringer? In most tournaments this is a typical and generally necessary allowance due to the nature of the game. It also was not only testies decision lol. The guy is so mellow these days. | ||
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
On May 11 2011 09:00 Jayme wrote: I disagree. I've learned far more from my games against obvious smurfs than against equal people. I don't mind smurfs in the least...you can learn alot from them. As for the boosting? Who cares? I can't fathom why it's ban worthy. As for the ringer? In most tournaments this is a typical and generally necessary allowance due to the nature of the game. It also was not only testies decision lol. The guy is so mellow these days. you can certainly disagree with the ban (i do as well) but to say that you "cant fathom why it's ban worthy" is just silly. account sharing is against eula, breaking the eula is banworthy. that's all. likewise 'everyone does it' isn't an excuse for breaking the rules it's kind of like pirating, yeah everyone does it but if a company gets on your nuts and sues the hell out of you, are you gonna tell them 'well everyone does it' and expect something good to happen? no, you're still the one breaking the rules. i'm kind of disappointed about this thread tbh. i was expecting a discussion based around stuff like what should the nature of ringers in a team game be, how should tournament admins approach it, stuff like that, instead of "well everyone does it so clearly nobody should be punished" which is clearly wrong. ditto for the boosting. a discussion on its implications in games, not the "wtf why do you get banned for that" which is also clearly wrong i suppose that's mostly the fault of the OP though /shrug | ||
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Starparty
Sweden1963 Posts
On May 10 2011 23:40 Chef wrote: I don't think it's fair to bring up things Testie did over a decade ago (things you probably weren't even around to witness), after he has been such an important member of the community, a nice guy 95% of the time, in ToT, good friends with mondragon etc etc. Yes, he did redeem himself. He was humble and eventually became a interesting playing in the foreign community for BW. Although that's also kind of old news, it really doesn't have anything to do with this game. I don't play HoN so I don't know the severity of the things he's done. The comments in the thread don't seem to suggest it's anything like what he did when he was 13 years old Is it playing twice for your team because someone is missing? Maybe it's like Proleague's Ace format Have the view on hacking changed somewhat over the last couple of years? Three years ago people would refuse to ever forgive a starcraft hacker. Even confessing you had touched a starcraft hack, even if you theoretically never even joined a multiplayer game would be enough to accumulate a shit storm. As for the discussion in the screen shots in the OP, i dont really judge Testie by it, nor by what he has done earlier. Im not really that confident in what actually happened a decade ago. However, i think its worth giving a thought to as where the hell the reason for blurting out language like this comes from. Take a chill pill and learn to respect the fact that it is another person you are chatting to. It doesnt make one look hip, nor cool, only like a douche. And not even the kind of douche that gets all the girls, just a generally irritating douche no one likes. | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
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XCetron
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zZygote
Canada898 Posts
Smurfing is a completely legitimate tactic like backdooring. The fact that someone is able to do something and others are complaining it's unfair or whatever have pretty weak reasoning. IMO, they can learn a thing or two from someone who completely destroys in games. | ||
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