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On May 11 2011 12:02 zZygote wrote:
Smurfing is a legitimate way to play a game. Not even the game of SC2 can stop it from happening. Players can freely tank MMR's the same way they can with PSR. Boosting accounts is at the sole discretion of the person who paid for the service. Whether they can actually play at such a level is their own responsibility.
Smurfing is a completely legitimate tactic like backdooring. The fact that someone is able to do something and others are complaining it's unfair or whatever have pretty weak reasoning. IMO, they can learn a thing or two from someone who completely destroys in games. Then what's the point of the match-making system in the first place?
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On May 11 2011 09:00 Jayme wrote:
I disagree. I've learned far more from my games against obvious smurfs than against equal people. I don't mind smurfs in the least...you can learn alot from them.
As for the boosting? Who cares? I can't fathom why it's ban worthy.
I don't think boosting is unethical but it's generally banned by the game company because people are profiting off their game (ala gold farming in MMOs).
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On May 10 2011 03:43 SK.Testie wrote:
1. I was told account boosting was fine to do.
2. wat.
This speaks for itself. Haha.
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On May 11 2011 12:58 qrs wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 12:02 zZygote wrote:
Smurfing is a legitimate way to play a game. Not even the game of SC2 can stop it from happening. Players can freely tank MMR's the same way they can with PSR. Boosting accounts is at the sole discretion of the person who paid for the service. Whether they can actually play at such a level is their own responsibility.
Smurfing is a completely legitimate tactic like backdooring. The fact that someone is able to do something and others are complaining it's unfair or whatever have pretty weak reasoning. IMO, they can learn a thing or two from someone who completely destroys in games. Then what's the point of the match-making system in the first place?
So that people who don't smurf face even skilled opponents. You act like 50% of the population are smurfs or something.
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Hi guys. Co-owner of the website here. I saw a lot of back linking and discussion so I thought I'd chime in.
I guess to elaborate, ringing is a huge issue in HoN. It is rampant. To be fair, my team uses ringers almost every single game, along with almost every other team.
S2, the developer, has had a hands-off approach to the problem, undermining HoN's competitive scene credibility. Investigation is only prompted in extreme circumstances. However, I think the issue arises when SK Gaming uses a ringer because they're held to a 'higher' standard, since they're a competitive organization. SK Gaming just got caught, and a player that is regarded poorly in the community pretty much 'snitched' on them. I think the snitching made the news more than the fact someone 'ringed.'
Yes, HoN loves drama and the people saying DotA/HoN is the worst community are spot on. As for Testie, I don't play with him too oddly much because he's more into streaming and playing with his girlfriend, but in leagues/inhouses he seems mannered but does take the game a bit.... seriously. I'd say he's extremely passive-aggressive, but I'm not sure he's a hypocrite because no one knows if he made the decision or not to allow a ringer.
That said, anyone want to pull me out of silver league so i can write for SC2, too? :DDDDD
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On May 10 2011 04:55 naventus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2011 04:30 xxpack09 wrote:
Honestly when I look at that whisper convo, you really egged him on. I was expected two full images of him raging all over you, but alas it was just a normal mundane ragefest on both sides. Not thread-worthy imho The screenshots were public a while ago. I'm not a player in the screenshots, nor am I involved in any way, I just follow the scene. My intention is just to present the case and people can make their own judgements on character.
That's not true at all. With a title like "The Hypocrite Known as Testie" and low blows like calling him "a fucking leper," you are trying to sway public opinion against him. If you merely wanted to present the case, you would make a thread with a neutral title, link the articles, and explain what exactly the accusations are. You didn't even define what "ringing" is.
I'm not sure what your grudge against testie is, but the only one in this thread who comes off as a "fucking leper" is you.
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Haha, welcome to TL, Raven!
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On May 11 2011 22:05 Count9 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 12:58 qrs wrote:On May 11 2011 12:02 zZygote wrote:
Smurfing is a legitimate way to play a game. Not even the game of SC2 can stop it from happening. Players can freely tank MMR's the same way they can with PSR. Boosting accounts is at the sole discretion of the person who paid for the service. Whether they can actually play at such a level is their own responsibility.
Smurfing is a completely legitimate tactic like backdooring. The fact that someone is able to do something and others are complaining it's unfair or whatever have pretty weak reasoning. IMO, they can learn a thing or two from someone who completely destroys in games. Then what's the point of the match-making system in the first place? So that people who don't smurf face even skilled opponents. You act like 50% of the population are smurfs or something. I'm not acting like 50% of the population are smurfs. I'm saying that every time someone smurfs against someone worse than them, their opponent is being cheated of the opportunity to face an even-skilled opponent. If you argue that there is no benefit in facing an even-skilled opponent, then what's the point of the match-making system in the first place?
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On May 10 2011 02:57 Hawk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2011 02:52 Thrill wrote:On May 10 2011 02:37 Professor Awesome wrote:
Man, that dotallyrad site is HORRIBLE, what a shit community that must be... It's not just the users - if anyone thinks Chill banning Idra was a powertrip, you haven't seen anything. The DOTA:Allstars and HoN community mods get into long arguments with users only to essentially end them with "u mad bro? lol perm'd". I feel compelled to link this in the thread about poor gamer representations in Law and Order just about a thousand times over in case anyone is questioning why gamers are all viewed as socially inept retards
we're viewed as what we are. I am alking about competitive gamers in this regard.
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On May 12 2011 00:22 KingRaven wrote:
Hi guys. Co-owner of the website here. I saw a lot of back linking and discussion so I thought I'd chime in.
I guess to elaborate, ringing is a huge issue in HoN. It is rampant. To be fair, my team uses ringers almost every single game, along with almost every other team.
S2, the developer, has had a hands-off approach to the problem, undermining HoN's competitive scene credibility. Investigation is only prompted in extreme circumstances. However, I think the issue arises when SK Gaming uses a ringer because they're held to a 'higher' standard, since they're a competitive organization. SK Gaming just got caught, and a player that is regarded poorly in the community pretty much 'snitched' on them. I think the snitching made the news more than the fact someone 'ringed.'
Yes, HoN loves drama and the people saying DotA/HoN is the worst community are spot on. As for Testie, I don't play with him too oddly much because he's more into streaming and playing with his girlfriend, but in leagues/inhouses he seems mannered but does take the game a bit.... seriously. I'd say he's extremely passive-aggressive, but I'm not sure he's a hypocrite because no one knows if he made the decision or not to allow a ringer.
That said, anyone want to pull me out of silver league so i can write for SC2, too? :DDDDD
THE KING HAS ARRIVED! haha
seriously though you really do need to add a serious madfilter to your perception of anything in dota/hon especially if you've only really experienced the incredibly manner SC community.
don't really have a personal opinion on the subject, but Testie was always a really boring player to watch in hon :p
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I've asked HoN staff (gamemasters) if playing on another's account can get you banned - I've been told no multiple times. Therefore account boosting shouldn't be an issue, unless it's explicitly stated somewhere on the HoN site - which I don't think it is, but correct me if I'm wrong.
The ringing thing is a wrong thing to do, but I feel Testie's explanation was fair and at the very least it should be held against his entire team, not him personally.
The rage is standard, everyone gets mad once in a while, especially in HoN. Not to mention he's still under the [5] tag there which means it must have been eons ago.
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On May 12 2011 00:22 KingRaven wrote:
Hi guys. Co-owner of the website here. I saw a lot of back linking and discussion so I thought I'd chime in.
I guess to elaborate, ringing is a huge issue in HoN. It is rampant. To be fair, my team uses ringers almost every single game, along with almost every other team.
S2, the developer, has had a hands-off approach to the problem, undermining HoN's competitive scene credibility. Investigation is only prompted in extreme circumstances. However, I think the issue arises when SK Gaming uses a ringer because they're held to a 'higher' standard, since they're a competitive organization. SK Gaming just got caught, and a player that is regarded poorly in the community pretty much 'snitched' on them. I think the snitching made the news more than the fact someone 'ringed.'
Yes, HoN loves drama and the people saying DotA/HoN is the worst community are spot on. As for Testie, I don't play with him too oddly much because he's more into streaming and playing with his girlfriend, but in leagues/inhouses he seems mannered but does take the game a bit.... seriously. I'd say he's extremely passive-aggressive, but I'm not sure he's a hypocrite because no one knows if he made the decision or not to allow a ringer.
That said, anyone want to pull me out of silver league so i can write for SC2, too? :DDDDD
There's no way...
Edit: Poke!!! ^.^ Carry me plz :<
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On May 11 2011 22:03 DivinO wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2011 03:43 SK.Testie wrote:
1. I was told account boosting was fine to do.
2. wat. This speaks for itself. Haha.
yup. Seems OP is angry about something.. dunno what... after looking up what this was about I feel it's blown way outta proportion by the OP... Good Job owning ppl though Testie  lol Keep at it.
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Hmmm angry blog by angry HoN community member about another angry HoN player. The purpose of which seems only to further anger TL members that play HoN. Wish I could say I was surprised at this but its the HoN community. "Standard -CatZ"
On May 13 2011 22:44 Pokebunny wrote:
I've asked HoN staff (gamemasters) if playing on another's account can get you banned - I've been told no multiple times. Therefore account boosting shouldn't be an issue, unless it's explicitly stated somewhere on the HoN site - which I don't think it is, but correct me if I'm wrong.
The ringing thing is a wrong thing to do, but I feel Testie's explanation was fair and at the very least it should be held against his entire team, not him personally.
The rage is standard, everyone gets mad once in a while, especially in HoN. Not to mention he's still under the [5] tag there which means it must have been eons ago.
Like Poke said even gamemasters don't care about the games ladder credibility, and reading the articles provided in the OP neither does the developers... Why is this even on the table for being considered a competitive game? Because it makes angry kids scream, shout and act like 4chan scum bags? Apparently so...
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is testie still dating that one girl? she in high school yet?
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On May 14 2011 03:06 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:
is testie still dating that one girl? she in high school yet?
oooooh snap!
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On May 14 2011 03:06 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:
is testie still dating that one girl? she in high school yet?
OH NO U DIDN
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