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The Hypocrite Known as Testie

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naventus
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States1339 Posts
May 09 2011 17:05 GMT
#1
If it is because of a lack of knowledge that the community turns a blind eye to disgusting behavior, then hopefully this post can bring some of that to light.

Testie was recently caught doing 2 things: boosting other players accounts, and bringing in a dirty ringer (and possibly jeopardizing SK sponsorship).
http://www.dotallyrad.com/2011/05/08/sk-caught-dirty-ringing-melonzz-to-blame-entirely/
http://www.dotallyrad.com/2011/05/02/testie-boosts-gaming-accounts-on-livestream-gets-banned/

Compare his behavior to his outburst against another team pulling ancients months ago:
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/6861/testierage.jpg
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/7671/testierage2.jpg

What moral code? What sort of loser comes out from being a notorious BW hacker, a fucking leper, and lectures someone else on moral strength? And now is revealed to be doing shady things as well. It could be argued that everyone else in the scene is doing it, but isn't the point of that moral code not to give in to pressure?

Just because you laid low for a while, doesn't mean you get to reinvent yourself and pretend you aren't the same lying scumbag you were in BW.

*
hmm.
searcher
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
277 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 17:23:19
May 09 2011 17:15 GMT
#2
-Edited: see below-
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
May 09 2011 17:17 GMT
#3
On May 10 2011 02:15 searcher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 02:05 naventus wrote:a fucking leper


???

Interesting bit of random bigotry you managed to insert there.
Definition of leper from Dictionary.com for your edification:
1. a person who has leprosy.
2. a person who has been rejected or ostracized for unacceptable behavior, opinions, character, or the like; anathema; outcast.

Now relax.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
May 09 2011 17:21 GMT
#4
Why are you so mad? lol.

From what I gather, they used a ringer because they couldn't play without a 5th man (theirs left because it was Mother's Day). Yea, it's not excusable, but to call him a "scumbag" for it is too extreme if you consider the circumstances (circumstances I found out after reading for 5-10 min).

The boosting is wrong too, but again, not on the level you put it at. Select even tried to do it before everyone got on him about it. It's not something that hurts anyone.

All of it originates from the SS's, but it just looks like typical rage to me. You say things you don't mean when you are angry, that's just the nature of competitive gaming.

I'm not really condoning him for any of that (especially since I'm just taking a cursory glance); I think it's silly. It's just that I think your rage filled post to blow up something so trivial is equally silly.
Dezzimal
Profile Joined April 2009
United States148 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 17:23:01
May 09 2011 17:21 GMT
#5
I don't think this is nearly as scandalous as you think it is. As a comparison, multiple top LoL players have been boosting on their livestreams forever, and nobody seems to really care about it.
searcher
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
277 Posts
May 09 2011 17:22 GMT
#6
On May 10 2011 02:17 qrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 02:15 searcher wrote:
On May 10 2011 02:05 naventus wrote:a fucking leper


???

Interesting bit of random bigotry you managed to insert there.
Definition of leper from Dictionary.com for your edification:
1. a person who has leprosy.
2. a person who has been rejected or ostracized for unacceptable behavior, opinions, character, or the like; anathema; outcast.

Now relax.

Hmm interesting, I didn't know that it's derogatory usage is in common use nowadays, I guess I shall retract my comments, though I think we can agree that it might not be the best word to use given that leprosy stigma still exists today.
Char711
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States862 Posts
May 09 2011 17:30 GMT
#7
Yeah, I agree with the others: this is not even close to the outrage you're trying to make it into. Dezzimal is also right in that I see LoL players do it all the time.

Besides, it's not like people don't already have an informed and almost uniformly negative opinion of Testie anyway. You don't really have any hearts or minds to sway.
"If you can chill, chill." -Liquid`Tyler "Special tactics." -White-Ra
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
May 09 2011 17:32 GMT
#8
On May 10 2011 02:22 searcher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 02:17 qrs wrote:
On May 10 2011 02:15 searcher wrote:
On May 10 2011 02:05 naventus wrote:a fucking leper


???

Interesting bit of random bigotry you managed to insert there.
Definition of leper from Dictionary.com for your edification:
1. a person who has leprosy.
2. a person who has been rejected or ostracized for unacceptable behavior, opinions, character, or the like; anathema; outcast.

Now relax.

Hmm interesting, I didn't know that it's derogatory usage is in common use nowadays, I guess I shall retract my comments, though I think we can agree that it might not be the best word to use given that leprosy stigma still exists today.
But it's exactly that stigma that the metaphor refers to. In other words, it's not so much alluding to the qualities of lepers as to their public reception (at least in the past). Given that, I don't see it as bigoted (although I wouldn't use it in front of an actual leper).

On topic--gee, I wish I had something to say on topic, but off-hand, without knowing much about the DotA community I'm not that sure about what happened or how bad it was. My impression is that Testie's team had a player smurfing under another player's name; is that right?
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
Professor Awesome
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany26 Posts
May 09 2011 17:37 GMT
#9
Man, that dotallyrad site is HORRIBLE, what a shit community that must be...
Horrde
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada302 Posts
May 09 2011 17:41 GMT
#10
I think my younger brother played a game like this years and years ago. I think he called it Runescape. I made fun of him for it. I never gave it much credit either. Oh well, OP's nerd rage makes me laugh lol.

And yeah, I don't even want to go near that community
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
May 09 2011 17:47 GMT
#11
What is Boosting?
Never Knows Best.
naventus
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States1339 Posts
May 09 2011 17:47 GMT
#12
On May 10 2011 02:30 Char711 wrote:
Yeah, I agree with the others: this is not even close to the outrage you're trying to make it into. Dezzimal is also right in that I see LoL players do it all the time.

Besides, it's not like people don't already have an informed and almost uniformly negative opinion of Testie anyway. You don't really have any hearts or minds to sway.


I have no stake in this, nor am I emotionally involved. I just wanted to use language that captured the sentiment behind the idea. If people feel no indignation at someone else's self righteous hypocrisy, then all the more power to them.

But if the view of such behavior and players is already as you said, looked down upon, that's great.
hmm.
Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 17:53:10
May 09 2011 17:50 GMT
#13
There are many top HoN teams that have used ringers in important matches. SK just got caught.

And I have no idea why people would care about boosting.
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Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
May 09 2011 17:52 GMT
#14
On May 10 2011 02:37 Professor Awesome wrote:
Man, that dotallyrad site is HORRIBLE, what a shit community that must be...


It's not just the users - if anyone thinks Chill banning Idra was a powertrip, you haven't seen anything. The DOTA:Allstars and HoN community mods get into long arguments with users only to essentially end them with "u mad bro? lol perm'd".
CCK
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden16 Posts
May 09 2011 17:53 GMT
#15
Naventus, if anyone is disgusting, it is you. The decision to take on Era was not Testie's, it was the team's as a whole.

Stop spreading misinformation. Hopefully you get warned or banned for this post. Promoting hatred nor calling people things you have no basis to call them is nothing that belongs on this forum, and hopefully all Team Liquid forumeers are ashamed to have you as a fellow member.
Nothing lasts forever… so live it up, drink it down, laugh it off, and avoid the bullshit. But never, EVER, regret, because at one point, everything you did, was exactly what you wanted.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
May 09 2011 17:57 GMT
#16
On May 10 2011 02:52 Thrill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 02:37 Professor Awesome wrote:
Man, that dotallyrad site is HORRIBLE, what a shit community that must be...


It's not just the users - if anyone thinks Chill banning Idra was a powertrip, you haven't seen anything. The DOTA:Allstars and HoN community mods get into long arguments with users only to essentially end them with "u mad bro? lol perm'd".

I feel compelled to link this in the thread about poor gamer representations in Law and Order just about a thousand times over in case anyone is questioning why gamers are all viewed as socially inept retards
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snorlax
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States755 Posts
May 09 2011 18:03 GMT
#17
I don't get why acct boosting is so bad, if someone wants to pay you to play there acct it doesn't really matter to you or anyone else, I guess it can be smurfing a little but but still money is money, as to the ringer that seems like a pretty stupid move =/
[N3O]r3d33m3r
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany673 Posts
May 09 2011 18:20 GMT
#18
what is this all about?^^
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
May 09 2011 18:43 GMT
#19
--- Nuked ---
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
May 09 2011 18:43 GMT
#20
1. I was told account boosting was fine to do.
2. wat.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
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