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I've hit a skill block

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kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
April 25 2011 17:13 GMT
#1
I've hit a total skill block in sc2. I used to be doing okay, facing other Silver players, but now I'm losing everything, facing Bronze players, and just not improving. What should I do? Has anyone else been in a similar situation?

*
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-25 17:16:51
April 25 2011 17:16 GMT
#2
eh, watch your replays and figure out why you lose then do it differently like everyone does. also try overdosing on caffeine if you don't drink it alot it will help your concentration greatly^^
edit: oh yeah, i've had SICK losestreaks btw, usually you feel like you are playing it right and how you used to but if you concentrate on figuring out why you lose you usually find the flaws.
Vlare
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
748 Posts
April 25 2011 17:16 GMT
#3
Yes. Currently in one it seems. Keep playing and have people suggest things you can do / work on. You're in the lower leagues, so there is a lot of big things you can still do which is nice.
Mass zerglings doesnt fail
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
April 25 2011 17:17 GMT
#4
Your foundations are really poor if you can't get to at least mid gold.
Probably has a lot to do with speed/efficiency.
Speed alone can get you up to Gold level. You could even work on a very solid aggresive gameplan (cheese) and work up your speed and mechanics that way.
I don't play sc2 but I'm sure my advice is good here.

Cuz bronze players... players with skills capping at bronze... are doing it wrong. Something very wrong. The possibilities of combinations of mistakes and wrong information you know or lack of knowledge are endless. Pretty much, you haven't learned the game.

1v1 BW?
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
April 25 2011 17:20 GMT
#5
Thanks for all your tips, but one of my main problems is not being able to fix what I do wrong. I know where my main problem is (scouting), but I don't know how to get better.
renchak
Profile Joined April 2009
209 Posts
April 25 2011 17:22 GMT
#6
What race are you playing? If you want i could observe some games and try and give you pointers! Just send me a pm if you are interested =)
Vlare
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
748 Posts
April 25 2011 17:22 GMT
#7
I have some time to kill, I could help you like if you want. Just pm me =)
Mass zerglings doesnt fail
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
April 25 2011 17:23 GMT
#8
OK thanks mate I'm terran

cDgkollin.231
renchak
Profile Joined April 2009
209 Posts
April 25 2011 17:35 GMT
#9
I just assumed you played on the EU-server since it said you were form the UK, but i can't add you.
Crimson
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States311 Posts
April 25 2011 17:39 GMT
#10
On April 26 2011 02:17 SuperJongMan wrote:
Your foundations are really poor if you can't get to at least mid gold.
Probably has a lot to do with speed/efficiency.
Speed alone can get you up to Gold level. You could even work on a very solid aggresive gameplan (cheese) and work up your speed and mechanics that way.
I don't play sc2 but I'm sure my advice is good here.

Cuz bronze players... players with skills capping at bronze... are doing it wrong. Something very wrong. The possibilities of combinations of mistakes and wrong information you know or lack of knowledge are endless. Pretty much, you haven't learned the game.

1v1 BW?


:unrelated: your codra guide helped me a lot pvz.
:on topic: take a break. come back and watch your replays with fresh eyes and have a notebook with you. mark down every single mistake and keep them in mind when you play your next game. it's a lot to start with at first, but it will help as you start to whittle down that list.
Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
April 25 2011 17:47 GMT
#11
Open up a replay:

Step 1)

1) Click on your Nexus/CC/Hatchery
2) Watch the production on the building
3) See if production of workers ever stops
4) If you stop producing workers. Pause the replay, look to see what you are doing during that time.
5) repeat steps 3 and 4 for the whole replay
6) See if there are any trends of when you stop worker production (ex. in a battle, building other buildings, etc...)
7) play 2 - 5 games vs computer where you constantly do the things that make you stop producing workers while making sure to produce workers. (ex. if you stop making workers while building buildings, then in a game vs comps just spam making buildings while remembering to make workers).

After 2 - 5 games, you will start to make a mental check list of "Oh I'm going to build a building, better check to see if I need to make workers".

- - - - -

Once you have constant worker production, go play some games vs some nubs and get better.

Step 2)

1) Open up a more recent replay where you have better worker production
2) Click on your unit producing structures (ex. barracks, warpgates, hatcheries, etc...)
3) See if production of units ever stops
4) If you stop producing units. Pause the replay, look to see what you are doing during that time.
5) repeat steps 3 and 4 for the whole replay
6) Play 2-5 games vs computers where you try to constantly produce units while microing, making workers, building buildings, etc...
7) go play some real games where you have better unit production.

Step 3)

1) After a bunch of ladder games with increase worker and unit production, open up a replay
2) Check to see if you are constantly making units and workers, if you ever stop. Check to see what is happening in game to make you stop producing workers and units.
3) Practice making units and workers during all situations.


There, you will have better macro and will most likely be able to win a lot lot more games.

More workers = more minerals and gas = you can make more units and buildings

More Units = you win more battles, simple as that. You win easier, and you die less often.

Macro will get you into diamond. So just work on it .

Also a few good things to watch would be:

1) 2/08 Day[9] Daily #0257 Starcraft 2 Newbie Tuesday: Refining Mechanics (Blip.tv)

2) 2/15 Day[9] Daily #0261 Starcraft 2 Newbie Tuesday: Mechanics #2 (Blip.tv)

3) 4/13 Day[9] Daily #0285 Starcraft 2 Newbie Tuesday: Stealing a Build (Blip.tv)

4) 4/19 Day[9] Daily #0289 Starcraft 2 Newbie Tuesday: Refining a Stolen Build (Blip.tv)
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Chillsen
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany98 Posts
April 25 2011 17:47 GMT
#12
Unblock your mind, you can do it!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
April 25 2011 18:09 GMT
#13
On April 26 2011 02:47 Insanious wrote:
Open up a replay:

Step 1)

1) Click on your Nexus/CC/Hatchery
2) Watch the production on the building
3) See if production of workers ever stops
4) If you stop producing workers. Pause the replay, look to see what you are doing during that time.
5) repeat steps 3 and 4 for the whole replay
6) See if there are any trends of when you stop worker production (ex. in a battle, building other buildings, etc...)
7) play 2 - 5 games vs computer where you constantly do the things that make you stop producing workers while making sure to produce workers. (ex. if you stop making workers while building buildings, then in a game vs comps just spam making buildings while remembering to make workers).

After 2 - 5 games, you will start to make a mental check list of "Oh I'm going to build a building, better check to see if I need to make workers".

- - - - -

Once you have constant worker production, go play some games vs some nubs and get better.

Step 2)

1) Open up a more recent replay where you have better worker production
2) Click on your unit producing structures (ex. barracks, warpgates, hatcheries, etc...)
3) See if production of units ever stops
4) If you stop producing units. Pause the replay, look to see what you are doing during that time.
5) repeat steps 3 and 4 for the whole replay
6) Play 2-5 games vs computers where you try to constantly produce units while microing, making workers, building buildings, etc...
7) go play some real games where you have better unit production.

Step 3)

1) After a bunch of ladder games with increase worker and unit production, open up a replay
2) Check to see if you are constantly making units and workers, if you ever stop. Check to see what is happening in game to make you stop producing workers and units.
3) Practice making units and workers during all situations.


There, you will have better macro and will most likely be able to win a lot lot more games.

More workers = more minerals and gas = you can make more units and buildings

More Units = you win more battles, simple as that. You win easier, and you die less often.

Macro will get you into diamond. So just work on it .

Also a few good things to watch would be:

1) 2/08 Day[9] Daily #0257 Starcraft 2 Newbie Tuesday: Refining Mechanics (Blip.tv)

2) 2/15 Day[9] Daily #0261 Starcraft 2 Newbie Tuesday: Mechanics #2 (Blip.tv)

3) 4/13 Day[9] Daily #0285 Starcraft 2 Newbie Tuesday: Stealing a Build (Blip.tv)

4) 4/19 Day[9] Daily #0289 Starcraft 2 Newbie Tuesday: Refining a Stolen Build (Blip.tv)


Thanks this is really helpful :D
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
April 25 2011 18:09 GMT
#14
On April 26 2011 02:35 renchak wrote:
I just assumed you played on the EU-server since it said you were form the UK, but i can't add you.


I do play on EU. I'm not online atm though, so maybe you just haven't seen me on your friend list.
renchak
Profile Joined April 2009
209 Posts
April 25 2011 18:15 GMT
#15
No, I actually got an error trying to add you. If you are interested still you can add me on Jellybum.546
nVusPip
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom260 Posts
April 25 2011 18:15 GMT
#16
Not going to be great advice but try and switch races for a bit and play some customs with mates to freshen your mind a bit, you'd even get some insight on how other races work. The worst thing to do is tilt, make sure you are able to stop yourself from getting to that position.
Slakkoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden1119 Posts
April 25 2011 18:27 GMT
#17
I'm plat, but if you want we can play a custom then I can watch through the replay and tell you what you did wrong and such =].
Hit me up,
slk.170 on BNet!
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
April 25 2011 19:12 GMT
#18
OK thanks slakkoo and rench I'll add you and play you tomorrow
Bippzy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1466 Posts
April 25 2011 21:41 GMT
#19
Dude my advice is to pick a build on here and do it over and over again every matchup, until you can execute it perfectly.

Im talkin 3 gate aggressive expo vs terran, 3 gate expo stargate vs zerg, and 4 gate vs toss.
Of course, if ur not toss then find something like it.

Main advice: Refine some builds, and then go mass ladder em.
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